Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
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Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
ok heres my problem i just put in a new battery its 2 days old and the alternator is new i took it off and took it down to autozone to get it check out and they said it was fine,but my volt gauge wont even get to the 13 volts it had b4 and they keep slowly droppin like the alternator isnt chargin how it should be anyone got any sugestions im stuck and idk what else to check and its really buggin me
so any ideas would be great thanks
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Have you confirmed it with a VOM on battery terminals ?
Was the battery fully charged BEFORE starting the car first time with the new battery inplace ? the alternator is really sensitive to empty or half full batterys..
Hows your wires, check them for resistence and corrosion.. (they can be bad from the inside if they are old to...)
Was the battery fully charged BEFORE starting the car first time with the new battery inplace ? the alternator is really sensitive to empty or half full batterys..
Hows your wires, check them for resistence and corrosion.. (they can be bad from the inside if they are old to...)
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Have you confirmed it with a VOM on battery terminals ?
Was the battery fully charged BEFORE starting the car first time with the new battery inplace ? the alternator is really sensitive to empty or half full batterys..
Hows your wires, check them for resistence and corrosion.. (they can be bad from the inside if they are old to...)
Was the battery fully charged BEFORE starting the car first time with the new battery inplace ? the alternator is really sensitive to empty or half full batterys..
Hows your wires, check them for resistence and corrosion.. (they can be bad from the inside if they are old to...)
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Also check fuses, I now on camaros you got a relay for the charging on the same fuse as the F/P and that fuse can be blown and pump still running because its getting power from the oilpressurewitch (its wires thru that one to) So check the fuses just in case one is blown..
Keep me posted
Keep me posted
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Also check fuses, I now on camaros you got a relay for the charging on the same fuse as the F/P and that fuse can be blown and pump still running because its getting power from the oilpressurewitch (its wires thru that one to) So check the fuses just in case one is blown..
Keep me posted
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Do you have a voltmeter? This is the only sure way to figure it out. Measure the voltage AT THE BATTERY with the car off, then with it running. You should see 12V or more with the car off and 14.5V with it running. If you see about 14.5V then your alternator is working properly. I would check the connections to the alternator and battery anyway.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Do you have a voltmeter? This is the only sure way to figure it out. Measure the voltage AT THE BATTERY with the car off, then with it running. You should see 12V or more with the car off and 14.5V with it running. If you see about 14.5V then your alternator is working properly. I would check the connections to the alternator and battery anyway.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Are you saying the voltage went up with the car off? That doesn't make sense.
I'd wouldn't recommend using the ammeter, it can short out, requires breaking the circuit to take a measurement, not to mention you shouldn't need it.
I'd wouldn't recommend using the ammeter, it can short out, requires breaking the circuit to take a measurement, not to mention you shouldn't need it.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Double check the battery voltage with the car running, then check the voltage between the post behind the alternator and the alternator case. You should see ~14.5V. If not there might problem with your alternator.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Possible bad gauge??? mine kinda does the same that yours does. but the battery is charging and the alternator is doing its job but my gauge fluctuates as well. i changed the gauge and it seems to work fine.
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well the way he told me to test it, it checks to make sure your not drawing current from the battery and its reading what its supposed to on the vom the vom i have is a pretty big one and has all these diffrent settings on it,and its350 tpi
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Yes, using an ammeter is for locating current drainage, but that's not the problem in your case. Your alt is simply not charging, explained by the lower voltage with engine on (ignition etc. draws current then).
Measure the voltage at the alternator post (should be the same as at the battery, 14.4V +/- 0.3V with engine on), and also at the brown(/white) wire going to it. If the brown wire lacks voltage then change the c/h fuse. If both have power then the alt is shot. If the alt post voltage is different from the battery voltage then you have a bad fusible link or connection between them.
Measure the voltage at the alternator post (should be the same as at the battery, 14.4V +/- 0.3V with engine on), and also at the brown(/white) wire going to it. If the brown wire lacks voltage then change the c/h fuse. If both have power then the alt is shot. If the alt post voltage is different from the battery voltage then you have a bad fusible link or connection between them.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
If your alternator is from autozone, just tell them you want another one, even if it tests fine. I was having issues with my alternator and it tested good at autozone, but I knew it was the culprit, so I told them I wanted another one. I swapped the new one in and my problem went away. Their test machine just can't account for real life conditions (heat, vibrations, etc.)
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Yes, using an ammeter is for locating current drainage, but that's not the problem in your case. Your alt is simply not charging, explained by the lower voltage with engine on (ignition etc. draws current then).
Measure the voltage at the alternator post (should be the same as at the battery, 14.4V +/- 0.3V with engine on), and also at the brown(/white) wire going to it. If the brown wire lacks voltage then change the c/h fuse. If both have power then the alt is shot. If the alt post voltage is different from the battery voltage then you have a bad fusible link or connection between them.
Measure the voltage at the alternator post (should be the same as at the battery, 14.4V +/- 0.3V with engine on), and also at the brown(/white) wire going to it. If the brown wire lacks voltage then change the c/h fuse. If both have power then the alt is shot. If the alt post voltage is different from the battery voltage then you have a bad fusible link or connection between them.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
With the car running its supposed to be 14.5V, thats what I was trying to tell you.
The next thing to try is checking the signal to the alternator. With the ignition on, but the car off, the weathertight plug should have 12V on the brown wire. You can remove it from the alternator to check it. Hook the black lead of your meter to the battery ground, or any ground for that matter.
The next thing to try is checking the signal to the alternator. With the ignition on, but the car off, the weathertight plug should have 12V on the brown wire. You can remove it from the alternator to check it. Hook the black lead of your meter to the battery ground, or any ground for that matter.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Your not saying if you have a system hooked up or not. You could be drawing it down with that. I can draw mine down to ten volts with the system I have. Now if that is the case sounds like you got a bad battery. Like it has a dead cell in it.
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i might just go ahead and do that to elimate the possibility of the gauge being messed up
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
With the car running its supposed to be 14.5V, thats what I was trying to tell you.
The next thing to try is checking the signal to the alternator. With the ignition on, but the car off, the weathertight plug should have 12V on the brown wire. You can remove it from the alternator to check it. Hook the black lead of your meter to the battery ground, or any ground for that matter.
The next thing to try is checking the signal to the alternator. With the ignition on, but the car off, the weathertight plug should have 12V on the brown wire. You can remove it from the alternator to check it. Hook the black lead of your meter to the battery ground, or any ground for that matter.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Just because it is a new battery does not mean it can not have a dead cell in it. Batteries sometimes set on the shelf for a long time. Also you said your brought your alternator in and it tested good. That also does not mean it is good as well. It can have one bad spot in it that does not show on there test machine. I have had that problem before. And the guy saying that it should be 14.5 on volts running. That is not always true it differs from vehicle to vehicle.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
Just because it is a new battery does not mean it can not have a dead cell in it. Batteries sometimes set on the shelf for a long time. Also you said your brought your alternator in and it tested good. That also does not mean it is good as well. It can have one bad spot in it that does not show on there test machine. I have had that problem before. And the guy saying that it should be 14.5 on volts running. That is not always true it differs from vehicle to vehicle.
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
With just the engine running nothing on other than normal on the car. Which that means no A/C running just the car and say the fan kicking on and off. It should run between 12.9 all the way to possibly 14.5. My truck right now at idle with nothing but the truck running only puts out 13.9. Like I had said with everything on A/C and system head lights. At idle I can draw it down to 10. Personally I would bring back the alternator and tell them to give you a new one if you want to try that. if you want to hook the system back up you can put a capacitor or put a bigger alternator. Capacitor is cheaper than the alternator. If you or buying them optima 6 pack batteries go back to a acid battery also. Those batteries or not meant to carry big loads on them.
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Or you running and electric water pump?
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Or you running and electric water pump?
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Re: Volts keep droppin??? need help ASAP
With just the engine running nothing on other than normal on the car. Which that means no A/C running just the car and say the fan kicking on and off. It should run between 12.9 all the way to possibly 14.5. My truck right now at idle with nothing but the truck running only puts out 13.9. Like I had said with everything on A/C and system head lights. At idle I can draw it down to 10. Personally I would bring back the alternator and tell them to give you a new one if you want to try that. if you want to hook the system back up you can put a capacitor or put a bigger alternator. Capacitor is cheaper than the alternator. If you or buying them optima 6 pack batteries go back to a acid battery also. Those batteries or not meant to carry big loads on them.
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Or you running and electric water pump?
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Or you running and electric water pump?
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