internal or external????
internal or external????
I am going to build a 383 package.Back in the day they were all external balance with the 400 bal. I notice that there are alot of internal balance kits now, is there a advantage to internal vs external??? thanks for the input.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Re: internal or external????
External is more common and usually cheaper. Internal is arguably better. Either one works perfectly well, though.
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The difference between external or internal balance crank is about the same as the cost of external balance damper and flexplate.
I'd go internal, personally.
I'd go internal, personally.
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Re: internal or external????
For the average street engine, it doesn't really matter. With an internally balanced engine, you can tell people it's a 305 or 350 and they can't disprove you by looking at the dampener to see it's an externally balanced engine and probably a 383 or 400+.
When I built my 540, the forged crank was only available as internal balanced. Usually 454+ is always externally balanced. The added internal counterbalance does cause some problems when getting the rotating assembly balanced. It can block access to a counterweight if it needs to be drilled or if a slug needs to be installed.
I use a 396/427 neutral balanced harmonic dampener and flexplate. My SFI flexplate needs to be replaced every few years as per NHRA/IHRA rules. Because my rotating assembly has been balanced, it's easier to replace a neutrally balanced flexplate than it is an externally balanced flexplate and still keep roughly the same rotating assembly balance. Even a neutrally balanced flexplate isn't 100% balanced. Mine was off by 10 grams when spun up on the balance machine.
Rotating assembly balance and crankshaft balance isn't the same thing.
When I built my 540, the forged crank was only available as internal balanced. Usually 454+ is always externally balanced. The added internal counterbalance does cause some problems when getting the rotating assembly balanced. It can block access to a counterweight if it needs to be drilled or if a slug needs to be installed.
I use a 396/427 neutral balanced harmonic dampener and flexplate. My SFI flexplate needs to be replaced every few years as per NHRA/IHRA rules. Because my rotating assembly has been balanced, it's easier to replace a neutrally balanced flexplate than it is an externally balanced flexplate and still keep roughly the same rotating assembly balance. Even a neutrally balanced flexplate isn't 100% balanced. Mine was off by 10 grams when spun up on the balance machine.
Rotating assembly balance and crankshaft balance isn't the same thing.
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