I found a thirden that a guy is willing to trade me for my v6 4th gen

here is the add to his car. http://cosprings.craigslist.org/cto/1146071326.html

its a 350 z28, sadly its an automatic, I want a v8 bad but I talked to him and he said its decently fast but not quick.

how much would a 5 spd swap be? and do you guys think I should trade?

 

I would trade him. 5 Speed Swaps can be done for under $500. And you can wait to do the swap. The car looks pretty clean. I would hop on it!

 

what year is your car and what condition is it in?
that has a lot to do with it.
how many miles do you have on it?
other than the fact its a 6 what dont you like about it and what do you like about it.
does everything you like about your current car exist on the 82?

 

well my car has 160,000 miles with a supposed engine rebuild, I dont like that its a v6, i dont like that it grinds going into reverse, I dont like manual locks and windows, i do like the ride quality and I like the look and sound of it, the car is nice. I just dont really like automatics

oh and my car is a 1994

 

another thing, I cut off my cat and muffler and put on a muffler and turndown for a side exit exhaust he said he wants the cat back on if I trade him, they check emissions in colorado springs, they dont check them where I live, and i'd have to drive about 150 miles to get the car, still worth it?

 

I would trade. The 4th gens are on the decline and 3rd gens are going up, plus its a z28

 

and you guys are sure I can do a 5 speed swap for around 500 or so? cuz I want it to be a standard pretty bad lol I hate automatics but ya i think ill trade him, thanks guys.

 

I think you can use trans from a s10 that the bell housing unbolts on and thats probably bout 150 bucks. Then you will need to find a junked out 3rd gen to rob the pedals, console, and clutch linkage. And dont forget you will need a v8 bellhousing, flywheel and clutch kit.

 

an S10 T-5 is different, I think it has a different input shaft with different spline count and the shifter is in the way wrong place. In short, a complete T-5 swap for a non-world class may run around $400-$500 and a world class T-5, slightly more. I hit the jackpot; I got a world class T-5, bellhousing, pedals, and hydraulics from an 88 Camaro that had a 305 for $175, you may not get THAT good a deal bu pedals and bellhousings are cheap, then you just need the trans.

 

alright so we got the trans and stuff figured out or almost, but is a 350 from a chevy a strong engine? how much horsepower? is it a fast car? will it be able to beat a 3.4l v6 camaro? or a 2002 mustang v6?

 

there a different 305's you really need to use the search key.
some are roller cams with flat tappits or roller cam with roller tappits.
or hydro cams
they require different harmonic balancers, different intake heads and intake manifolds.
your name it and it exists.
but you are asking the right questions.
go on line and google buy gm 350 engine and look at all the different types there are.

 

looks like a decent trade but i'd be weary of the "well i bought of this guy and it had a new motor with 40k put in" that stuff is BS usually. 500 for a tranny swap i could see if your doing it yourself. Make sure you have the skills and tools to do that. Also i'm skeptical of a t5 behind a 350... BUT i have never owned a 350 t-5 i can only comment on my expirences with my 4th gen 3.8 with the t5. I don't baby my tranny but I take immaculate care of my veichles as far as matience and i've had to put a clutch and 2 syncro's in it already and i only have 55k miles on her. now the syncros were shot when i bought it so it could have been previous owners error. Take it with it all with a grain of salt. I never liked the 3.4 camaros but I can't complain about my 3.8 as a DD in the summer of course. Goodluck on the purchase hope you enjoy it

 

well i have a friend who's dad owns a mechanic shop and he said I could use it as long as I know what im doing and put everything back and clean up.

 

My opinion is it all comes down to price. If he's asking 2000 he'll take 1600. Would you sell your car for 1600? And if your car would sell for 2500 and you had another 500 cash you could get a pretty damn nice 3rd gen with fewer miles, nice paint and probably a stick, if you don't get in a big rush and buy the first car you see. I'd pass. I think you're going backward on the deal.

And another thing you have to consider. Depending on the engine, you aren't going to get the gas mileage your 6 gets and your insurance rates are probably going to be higher for a V8.

 

thing is, im not sure if I could sell my car for that, let alone 2000, maybe on craigslist but idk. but ya I wouldnt mind a 305 with a stick thats in nice condition.


very good point though.

 

anyone else?

 

I guess i move on, he said someone back into the car today, putting a dent in the fender : (.

 

its a tiny dent, im still getting it.

so far here is whats wrong with the z28 compared to mine, keep in mind its a 150 mile drive and his car only has 1/4 tank and he insists that he is too broke to give me at least 1/2 tank...

1985 z28

have to pump the gas 3 times before starting it, rev it a little to keep it going at start up, stays started fine.
-smokes a little on start up cuz the guy left the engine on its side to long or something and something needs to still burn out?
-small dent in driver side front fender, ill bondo it and paint and sand
-needs brakes, they squeak he said
-needs heater hoses how much?
-tires are decent
- only driver has seatbelts
- new paint
- scratch on driver door
-automatic tranny
- has an exhaust : ) dunno what kind though its got duals though
-cd player

1994 v6 camaro-mine
-occasionally starts and dies, but starts right up after
-its way too loud how its rigged right now
-slow
-I like the 5 sped
-grinds going into reverse and occasionally slides outta gear
- brights for headlights dont work
- check oil light and another dash light are always on, the sensor is shot
- manual fan switch wired in, it looks professional,
- 85% tread left on tires
-v6 : ( lol
- hatch hydraulics dont work, neither does the lock for the hatch, it always stays open
- have to spray wd40 in the hood latch to get the hood to stay closed
- needs paint on hood and roof and hatch
-missing lug nuts
- cassette player
- recently developed squeak in my breaks

 

Unless you just REALLy want it, I think you might be in a little over your head. Body damage is a big downer.... paint and body work total these cars out VERY quickly.

A T5 behind a 350 will break. T5's are notorious for not being able to handle any kind of significant power in our cars, so I'm not sure a T5 swap is the best idea. A T56 is a great idea, but taht swap will run you closer to $2k instead of $500. But if you blow up a T5, you can just buy another $250-$400 T5 and bolt it in. If you dont mind changing a T5 every few times you change the oil (As a worst case scenario) then go for it.

Also, there is absolutely NO WAY to tell whether this motor is a 350 or a 305. I would bet money it's a 305. They didnt ahve 350's stock in 1985. And I dont know about the motor being on its side so it smokes out of one bank.

Im guessing it's carbureted also? Get some pictures of this thing and show us.

 

well ill ask for some pics, and my fan switch thing broke off today so I cant drive it for long periods of time, well not while its stopped anyway or it will overheat. anyway, the dent is about the size of a baseball i was just gonna sand it, bondo, sand, paint over it, it has newer paint he said. and he really doesnt know crap about the car, doesnt know what kinda exhuast is on it, or anything, just knows it drives and gets him around. the 350 is supposdly from a 82 chevy.

 

T5's are fine. I have been running a non world class with 300 rwhp for 6 years now. Only problem was a broken shift fork a few years ago. Plus I thrash on it, and have made about 30 passes down the track, including a few with slicks. Plus their cheap.

 

The fact that they're disposable is really the only plus. There are plenty of guys here with experiences of T5's breaking. GM wouldn't warranty a T5 behind an L98, and to me that's a pretty good sign that they really cant handle that kind of power. A T56 is a much better option, but you pay for that privelege.

82 Chevy? A truck maybe? Probably has 4-bolt mains, but that isnt gonna make it any quicker. Probably pushing around 200 hp if you're lucky.

 

Is this going to be your only vehicle? Not the most reliable if it is. But... its sounds like your fourth gen is in the same amount of disrepair. All in all sounds like an even trade to me, take a look at it and if you thinks its worth it trade him. My only thing is if you want a 5 speed, you should buy a 5 speed. That $500 budget is going to get sucked up pretty quick on other repairs/maintenance.