CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
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CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
I work at a GM dealership in Michigan and it has just come to my knowledge that there is still a safety recall out for all and any 84-90 camaros/firebirds for a "safety belt retainer recall". It has to do with the seat belt buckles themselves, if they are cracked or broken and do not latch or unlatch, the dealership will replace them for free no charge to you if your vehcles VIN falls within the letter code. It is also possible for the dealership to pull your VIN up on a program and show the service history of your vehicle and that will tell them if your vehicle qualifys for the safety campaign recall. I have printed out the Tech article from our GM campign program and if i can find time i will scan and post to it to this thread if anyone else is interested. Since my Trans Am is an 88" and my VIN falls within the letter code, my seatbelt buckles will be replaced and a new kit installed. Depending on your vehicle build and code sheet, some may quailfy for all new seatblets to be installed. The kit is for ALL 4 seatbelt buckles. I have more info available. HERE IS WHAT I CAN COPY AND POST FROM OUR GM SI PROGRAM:
#0A15A: CAMPAIGN: SEAT BELT BUCKLES MAY NOT LATCH OR RELEASE - (Mar 31, 1991)
Models: 1984-90 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird
TO. ALL GENERAL MOTORS DEALERS
# THIS BULLETIN CANCELS AND SUPERSEDES CAMPAIGN BULLETIN 0A15 ISSUED JULY, 1990. THE DEFECT INVOLVED, PARTS INFORMATION, SERVICE PROCEDURE AND CLAIM INFORMATION SECTIONS HAVE BEEN REVISED. ADDITIONALLY, A SPECIAL TOOLS SECTION HAS BEEN ADDED. ALL COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL BULLETIN SHOULD BE DESTROYED. REVISED INFORMATION IS SHOWN IN BOLD TYPE AND DENOTED BY A # SIGN.
DEFECT INVOLVED:
General Motors of Canada has determined that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in some 1984-90 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird model vehicles. Some seat belt buckle assemblies in affected vehicles may not latch, or may not release, due to fracture of the red push button which can occur during seat belt connection or disconnection. These buckle malfunctions would prevent a person from using their seat belt system and the risk of injury to an unbelted person in an accident would be increased.
# To correct this condition, all involved vehicles will have the pushbutton assemblies replaced and have a protector shield added (except for certain 1989 and all 1990 vehicles which have revised lower cover ramps and as a result do not need protectors). Also, any buckle assemblies which are found not to function correctly, or which have fractured pushbuttons, will be replaced.
VEHICLES INVOLVED:
Involved are 1984-90 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird model vehicles built within the following VIN breakpoints:
CHEVROLET AND PONTIAC
YEAR MODEL PLANT FROM THROUGH
1984 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1984 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1985 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1985 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1986 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1986 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1987 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1987 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1988 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1989 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1990 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP
Involved vehicles have been identified by Vehicle Identification Number Computer Listings. Computer listings contain the complete Vehicle Identification Number, owner name and address data, and will be furnished to involved dealers as owner notifications (by model year) of this revised recall action begins. Owner name and address data furnished will enable dealers to follow-up with owners involved in this campaign.
DEALER CAMPAIGN RESPONSIBILITY:
Dealers are to perform this campaign on all involved vehicles at no charge to owners, regardless of kilometres traveled, age of vehicle, or ownership, from this time forward. Whenever a vehicle subject to this campaign is taken into your new or used vehicle inventory, or it is in your dealership for service, you are to ensure the campaign correction has been made before selling or releasing the vehicle.
Owners of vehicles recently sold from your new vehicle inventory are to be contacted by the dealer, and arrangements made to make the required modification according to instructions contained in this bulletin.
CAMPAIGN PROCEDURE:
Refer to Section 4 of the Service Policies and Procedures Manual for the detailed procedure on handling Product Campaigns. Dealers are requested to complete the campaign on all transfers as soon as possible.
OWNER NOTIFICATION:
Owners of record at the time of campaign release are shown on the attached computer listing and have been notified by first class mail from General Motors. The listings provided are for campaign activity only and should not be used for any other purpose. This second mailing to owners will be scheduled as parts become available.
PARTS INFORMATION:
Parts required to complete this campaign should be ordered through regular channels, as follows:
PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION QUANTITY/VEHICLE ----------- --------------- ----------------- 14097930 Push Button Kit 1
Each Kit Includes: 4 - Push Buttons 4 - Button Springs 4 - Protector Shields
For those vehicles which experience pushbutton fractures, dealers will need to order individual buckle assemblies as listed below. Note that 1984 vehicles with fractured brown or charcoal buckle assemblies must have all four (4) seat belt buckle assemblies replaced with black seat belt buckle assemblies due to colour availability.
DEALERS ARE TO RETURN ALL SERVICE INVENTORY OF PART NUMBERS 12507818 THROUGH 12507829 AND 12507997. PLEASE USE A SEPARATE GMP 83 AS A PACKING SLIP AND RETURN PREPAID TO YOUR SERVICING PDC. USE "SPECIAL RETURN" AS THE REASON FOR RETURN ON THE GMP 83.
Seat Belt Buckle Assemblies:
Determine proper buckle colour to order from the chart below:
Interior Colour Is: Replacement Part: --------------------- ----------------------------- 1984 VEHICLES Charcoal Black (Replace All Belts) Blue Dk. Royal Blue Tan Lt. Saddle Lt. Gray Lt.Sand Gray Brown Black (Replace All Belts)
1985-87 VEHICLES Black Black Tan Lt. Saddle Gray Med. Dk. Gray Red Dk. Carmine Brown Russet
1988-89 VEHICLES Black Black Tan Beachwood Gray Med. Dk. Gray Red Dk. Carmine
1990 VEHICLES Black Black Tan Beachwood Gray Med. Dk. Gray Red Flame Red
ORDERING SPECIFICATIONS
I CAN GET MORE INFO IF IT IS NEEDED. HOPE THE MODS CAN TURN THIS INTO A STICKY.
#0A15A: CAMPAIGN: SEAT BELT BUCKLES MAY NOT LATCH OR RELEASE - (Mar 31, 1991)
Models: 1984-90 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac FirebirdTO. ALL GENERAL MOTORS DEALERS
# THIS BULLETIN CANCELS AND SUPERSEDES CAMPAIGN BULLETIN 0A15 ISSUED JULY, 1990. THE DEFECT INVOLVED, PARTS INFORMATION, SERVICE PROCEDURE AND CLAIM INFORMATION SECTIONS HAVE BEEN REVISED. ADDITIONALLY, A SPECIAL TOOLS SECTION HAS BEEN ADDED. ALL COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL BULLETIN SHOULD BE DESTROYED. REVISED INFORMATION IS SHOWN IN BOLD TYPE AND DENOTED BY A # SIGN.
DEFECT INVOLVED:
General Motors of Canada has determined that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in some 1984-90 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird model vehicles. Some seat belt buckle assemblies in affected vehicles may not latch, or may not release, due to fracture of the red push button which can occur during seat belt connection or disconnection. These buckle malfunctions would prevent a person from using their seat belt system and the risk of injury to an unbelted person in an accident would be increased.
# To correct this condition, all involved vehicles will have the pushbutton assemblies replaced and have a protector shield added (except for certain 1989 and all 1990 vehicles which have revised lower cover ramps and as a result do not need protectors). Also, any buckle assemblies which are found not to function correctly, or which have fractured pushbuttons, will be replaced.
VEHICLES INVOLVED:
Involved are 1984-90 Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird model vehicles built within the following VIN breakpoints:
CHEVROLET AND PONTIAC
YEAR MODEL PLANT FROM THROUGH
1984 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1984 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1985 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1985 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1986 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1986 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1987 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1987 F Norwood (N) SOP EOP 1988 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1989 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP 1990 F Van Nuys (L) SOP EOP
Involved vehicles have been identified by Vehicle Identification Number Computer Listings. Computer listings contain the complete Vehicle Identification Number, owner name and address data, and will be furnished to involved dealers as owner notifications (by model year) of this revised recall action begins. Owner name and address data furnished will enable dealers to follow-up with owners involved in this campaign.
DEALER CAMPAIGN RESPONSIBILITY:
Dealers are to perform this campaign on all involved vehicles at no charge to owners, regardless of kilometres traveled, age of vehicle, or ownership, from this time forward. Whenever a vehicle subject to this campaign is taken into your new or used vehicle inventory, or it is in your dealership for service, you are to ensure the campaign correction has been made before selling or releasing the vehicle.
Owners of vehicles recently sold from your new vehicle inventory are to be contacted by the dealer, and arrangements made to make the required modification according to instructions contained in this bulletin.
CAMPAIGN PROCEDURE:
Refer to Section 4 of the Service Policies and Procedures Manual for the detailed procedure on handling Product Campaigns. Dealers are requested to complete the campaign on all transfers as soon as possible.
OWNER NOTIFICATION:
Owners of record at the time of campaign release are shown on the attached computer listing and have been notified by first class mail from General Motors. The listings provided are for campaign activity only and should not be used for any other purpose. This second mailing to owners will be scheduled as parts become available.
PARTS INFORMATION:
Parts required to complete this campaign should be ordered through regular channels, as follows:
PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION QUANTITY/VEHICLE ----------- --------------- ----------------- 14097930 Push Button Kit 1
Each Kit Includes: 4 - Push Buttons 4 - Button Springs 4 - Protector Shields
For those vehicles which experience pushbutton fractures, dealers will need to order individual buckle assemblies as listed below. Note that 1984 vehicles with fractured brown or charcoal buckle assemblies must have all four (4) seat belt buckle assemblies replaced with black seat belt buckle assemblies due to colour availability.
DEALERS ARE TO RETURN ALL SERVICE INVENTORY OF PART NUMBERS 12507818 THROUGH 12507829 AND 12507997. PLEASE USE A SEPARATE GMP 83 AS A PACKING SLIP AND RETURN PREPAID TO YOUR SERVICING PDC. USE "SPECIAL RETURN" AS THE REASON FOR RETURN ON THE GMP 83.
Seat Belt Buckle Assemblies:
Determine proper buckle colour to order from the chart below:
Interior Colour Is: Replacement Part: --------------------- ----------------------------- 1984 VEHICLES Charcoal Black (Replace All Belts) Blue Dk. Royal Blue Tan Lt. Saddle Lt. Gray Lt.Sand Gray Brown Black (Replace All Belts)
1985-87 VEHICLES Black Black Tan Lt. Saddle Gray Med. Dk. Gray Red Dk. Carmine Brown Russet
1988-89 VEHICLES Black Black Tan Beachwood Gray Med. Dk. Gray Red Dk. Carmine
1990 VEHICLES Black Black Tan Beachwood Gray Med. Dk. Gray Red Flame Red
ORDERING SPECIFICATIONS
I CAN GET MORE INFO IF IT IS NEEDED. HOPE THE MODS CAN TURN THIS INTO A STICKY.
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no one is interested in this?
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ill probably give a call to my local chevy dealer next week. and give them the vin over the phone just to make sure the idiot that owned the car before me got this taken care of. for some reason i dont have alot of faith in someone that replaced the stock spare tire for a new one....with four stud holes instead of five
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
SAFETY Recalls never expire.
I went in....
Chevy (Chevy was closer)sent me to Pontiac (Trans Am GTA).....
Pontiac told m e my VIN wasn't affected, yet everything I've found says it was. They wouldn't even acknowledge the print out I had showing it was good!
I went in....
Chevy (Chevy was closer)sent me to Pontiac (Trans Am GTA).....
Pontiac told m e my VIN wasn't affected, yet everything I've found says it was. They wouldn't even acknowledge the print out I had showing it was good!
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Hey, thanks for the post, most of my 91's parts have a 1990 date code on them. The passenger side receiver cracked due to my 80-year-old (at the time) mom trying to put the belt latch in the wrong place. She jammed it between the plastic housing and the red button, splitting the plastic case. I fixed it with a zip tie around the outside of the receiver, and it seems to work. Hasn't been crash-tested (fortunately) though, but now I'm worried it might not hold up. Is this how the defect came to light? Would this be covered in the recall? It is the shorter style passenger side.
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I wish I had known about this recall when I bought my car. A couple of weeks after I bought it I actually got trapped in the drivers seat because the belt would not release. I was able to squirm my skinny *** out with out throwing my back out, but I had a hard time finding a tan belt to replace the damaged one. Should have gone to the dealer.
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Yeah, I called the Chevy dealer and he basically laughed at my request of a 25+ year old recall, but said to call GM and if they would honor the recall, then he would do the work. Get the official recall info from GM and the dealership will do the work. They just want to get paid for the work so if GM is forced to pay for it by law, then you can get it done. That's how I understood it anyway. I'm calling GM tomorrow (1-800-462-8782) and will post the results here once my issue is resolved.
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Does the car have to be running, or even mobile? Does GM have enough of these to cover every single car built in the VIN range, or are we competing for what few are left over?
I want these, but my Trans Am is nowhere near being mobile within the next 18 months, without EXTREME amounts of cost AND labor.
I want these, but my Trans Am is nowhere near being mobile within the next 18 months, without EXTREME amounts of cost AND labor.
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you can still get the kits new, and the install isnt that hard, im even sure you may be able to get the kit yourself.
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Does the car have to be running, or even mobile? Does GM have enough of these to cover every single car built in the VIN range, or are we competing for what few are left over?
I want these, but my Trans Am is nowhere near being mobile within the next 18 months, without EXTREME amounts of cost AND labor.
I want these, but my Trans Am is nowhere near being mobile within the next 18 months, without EXTREME amounts of cost AND labor.
I wouldn't let this discourage others though, at least you can call and give them your VIN to see if your car qualifies. I might try calling someone else to see if they can pull up more info, but I kinda need working seat belts asap, especially with no airbag, so I'll probably just buy replacements. Good luck to anyone else looking to act on this recall.
GM: 1 800 462 8782
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I called, it is still an open recall for my car. The woman was surprised it was still open. She contacted the dealer near me while I was on hold to get my car in. She has to find the part # for the dealer because they can not find it themselves. I was told I would get a call back Friday. I have her direct line in case I do not hear back.
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That's ok, I went to my chevy dealer and they wouldn't do squat even though they could look up on the computer that my car was active and not repaired. Anything you do on your dealer end?? I mean at this point I'd take the kit and do it my damn self, it's too much of a hastle to drive chevy dealer to chevy dealer (30-40 miles apart) to find a dealer that knows what the hell they are doing. The parts guy couldn't even find the part number for the kit you have mentioned above to fix the recall and they gave me the 1800 number to play schenanigans with them for a week of phone tag to get ahold of someone that knew what they were talking about, and their best advice was to go to the dealer and have them inspect the buckle to say whether they work or not. Obviously they work at the moment and thats the point of the recall because eventually internally they won't work...wish they'd just fix the damn thing and honor it like they should. Ok, sorry had to vent. Thanks.
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
You think they will do the recall if you have a 10 pt cage??
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I called, it is still an open recall for my car. The woman was surprised it was still open. She contacted the dealer near me while I was on hold to get my car in. She has to find the part # for the dealer because they can not find it themselves. I was told I would get a call back Friday. I have her direct line in case I do not hear back.
Call the woman back and give her this info:
Part # 14097930 Group 14.875 Push Button Kit approx $10.50 CDN!!
Hopefully she thanks you for doing her/and the parts person's job!!
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That's ok, I went to my chevy dealer and they wouldn't do squat even though they could look up on the computer that my car was active and not repaired. Anything you do on your dealer end?? I mean at this point I'd take the kit and do it my damn self, it's too much of a hastle to drive chevy dealer to chevy dealer (30-40 miles apart) to find a dealer that knows what the hell they are doing. The parts guy couldn't even find the part number for the kit you have mentioned above to fix the recall and they gave me the 1800 number to play schenanigans with them for a week of phone tag to get ahold of someone that knew what they were talking about, and their best advice was to go to the dealer and have them inspect the buckle to say whether they work or not. Obviously they work at the moment and thats the point of the recall because eventually internally they won't work...wish they'd just fix the damn thing and honor it like they should. Ok, sorry had to vent. Thanks.
I gave you this info before in the "interior" thread, post #419 on 03-22-2010:
Part # 14097930 Group 14.875 Push Button Kit approx $10.50 CDN!!
Spend the 10 bucks or so, and do it yourself, it's easier than trying to get GM to pay for the job which probably costs them about $150.00 as they probably charge themselves the markup, etc!!!
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Hello All!!
For seat belt button issues, if your dealer doesn't want to play ball, and you want to get them fixed, visit the interior thread, and see the Sticky "Important" seat belt recall info at the top of the thread, it contains a part # to order. For seat belt retractors, visit the same thread, I posted some info in there, post #421 that might be valuable to you, and can save your seat belts from being useless!!
P.S. Start at the last page of the thread, and work backwards, saves reading about the same stuff, over, and over, again!!
For seat belt button issues, if your dealer doesn't want to play ball, and you want to get them fixed, visit the interior thread, and see the Sticky "Important" seat belt recall info at the top of the thread, it contains a part # to order. For seat belt retractors, visit the same thread, I posted some info in there, post #421 that might be valuable to you, and can save your seat belts from being useless!!
P.S. Start at the last page of the thread, and work backwards, saves reading about the same stuff, over, and over, again!!
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Does that include the metal guide that "fixed" the issue? All i've seen are the button kits which was pretty much new red buttons, but no mention of the metal guides the recall was supposed to provide that "fixed" the defect in the belts we got. That's the only reason that's kept me from spending the $10 or so to get just a button kit is I'd like the proper fix. Thanks for the response.
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Does that include the metal guide that "fixed" the issue? All i've seen are the button kits which was pretty much new red buttons, but no mention of the metal guides the recall was supposed to provide that "fixed" the defect in the belts we got. That's the only reason that's kept me from spending the $10 or so to get just a button kit is I'd like the proper fix. Thanks for the response.
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
I can get you the kits from the dealer here where I work. let me know when you need them 89-bird.
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Does that include the metal guide that "fixed" the issue? All i've seen are the button kits which was pretty much new red buttons, but no mention of the metal guides the recall was supposed to provide that "fixed" the defect in the belts we got. That's the only reason that's kept me from spending the $10 or so to get just a button kit is I'd like the proper fix. Thanks for the response.
The kit which I got installed in my car, that we ordered here through the GM dealer I work at came with new springs, buttons and metal guides. its the whole shi-bang. I can still get the kit for anyone who needs them. So for anyone who needs them, PM me and I will order them as soon as I get them. The kits are still available, i can get them out of Lansing, Michigan. It will take 5 days to ship to the dealer, so anyone needing some please PM me. They retail for $5.35 a kit.
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Funny.....................After checking the NHTSA recall site and confirming that my vin# fell in the correct range to be included in the belt recall i called the Chevy customer service 800# with the NHTSA CAMPAIGN number and spent a wasted hour only to be told by a totally confused operator ( not to mention she was a AMERICAN citizen in AMERICA not a person in india!) that my car was NOT included in the campaign nor tell me IF my vehicle had the belts/buckles replaced previously.........................
At least my belts work!
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Axle/Gears: Borg-Warner 7.75 with 3.27 ratio
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Does that include the metal guide that "fixed" the issue? All i've seen are the button kits which was pretty much new red buttons, but no mention of the metal guides the recall was supposed to provide that "fixed" the defect in the belts we got. That's the only reason that's kept me from spending the $10 or so to get just a button kit is I'd like the proper fix. Thanks for the response.
As stated above, yes it does!!
Verified, as I'm looking at the factory sealed kit as I post!!
Four red buttons
Four springs
Four edge clips
P.S. It's an easy fix, and can be done in 15 minutes!!
Use a "small" flat tipped screwdriver, and gently pry up the old button, on both sides (there are slots at each end), use your hand as a fulcrum, in order to protect the seat belt buckle plastic from getting damaged!! Gently press on the new red button, making sure that it lines up with the black plastic button holder, a "click" will be heard, and the button will sit properly, if you have done it correctly!! Did I say to be gentle???? Be GENTLE, 20 to 25 year old plastic has it's limitations of flexability!!!
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From: Chilliwack BC
Car: White 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI LB9, 215 HP
Transmission: Borg-Warner T5 NWC
Axle/Gears: Borg-Warner 7.75 with 3.27 ratio
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Funny.....................After checking the NHTSA recall site and confirming that my vin# fell in the correct range to be included in the belt recall i called the Chevy customer service 800# with the NHTSA CAMPAIGN number and spent a wasted hour only to be told by a totally confused operator ( not to mention she was a AMERICAN citizen in AMERICA not a person in india!) that my car was NOT included in the campaign nor tell me IF my vehicle had the belts/buckles replaced previously.........................
At least my belts work!
At least my belts work!
GM, like most companies usually purge records after "X" number of years, however, if someone makes enough noise, or if there is a lawsuit to defend themselves from, they usually end up "finding" the info somehow!!
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Car: White 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI LB9, 215 HP
Transmission: Borg-Warner T5 NWC
Axle/Gears: Borg-Warner 7.75 with 3.27 ratio
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
My dealer told me the same thing here in Canada, but he still got them for me!!
Discontinued, and out of stock, two different meanings!!
Discontinued = still available, no longer made, exhaust all available stock!!
Out of stock = none!!
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From: Pigeon Forge ,TN
Car: Firebird
Engine: 2.8 v/6
Transmission: t/5
Axle/Gears: open/3.42
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Yeah sorry about that he told me they were discontinued and he could not get them as he didn't have any in stock .
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Car: 89 Iroc
Engine: 350 TPI
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
hey, i have a 86 iroc and my belts are in pretty bad shape....actually my driver side reciever doesnt even hold...i haven't checked my vin yet but i am almost positive it falls under the catagory...i went to my chevy dealer and asked...they asked the year, as soon as i said 86 they said "we don't have anything for it" i mentioned these threads about it and people were still getting them and then he decided to look it up by vin on the computer. however it came up with nothing...im guessing they have the info, just not on their computers. just too lazy to go to the books. he has no records i guess of anything past 10 years...sounds like bs...i need new ones since mine don't even really work. hard to find used ones since i have the carmine red.
if someone could help please. Leman's Chevy City is bs
if someone could help please. Leman's Chevy City is bs
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
This morning the "specialist" from GM called and said the parts are not available anymore. They still could not give me the part #. I was told the recall can NOT be done. I was told if I can find them through a private mechanic and pay for them, I can fill out a reimbersment form. This is BS! Maybe this is a job for Susan Hogan of the channel 12 news, problem solvers!
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Car: 1988 Trans Am, 2005 Sierra 2500
Engine: Vortec 357
Transmission: Built TH700R4 with 26-2800 Stall
Axle/Gears: GM 10 bolt 3.73 Posi
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
GUYS IF YOU READ UP, I STILL AM ABLE TO GET THSE KITS THROUGH GM AS THEY HAVE SOME AT THEIR WAREHOUSE IN LANSING, MICHIGAN. iVE ALREADY ORDERED 1 KIT AND CAN ORDER AS MANY AS PEOPLE NEED UNTIL THE DEMAND OR SUPPLY RUNS OUT. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO EVER WANTS A KIT PLEASE PM ME WITH YOUR ZIP. MY PAYAL IS JSimba711@NetZero.com.
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Car: Purple & Black 1984 Trans Am T-Top
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
This guy on ebay has a few for sale...complete original GM repair kits. Will cost $20 total for one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...#ht_4398wt_941
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...#ht_4398wt_941
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
I called the woman back after seeing the part number here. Of course I got the voicemail, but left a detailed message for her. Of course no call back. The kit on gmpartsdirect.com is $3.10 but $15.95 for shipping. I would rather make them send it out and pay nothing due to it being a recall! I'll keep you all posted when Monday comes and I call, call, again!
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From: knoxville tn
Car: 1986 iroc Z-28
Engine: "LB-9" TPI 305
Transmission: 700-R-4
Axle/Gears: corporate 2:73-1
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
i called the number you listed and guess what???? there is NO recall on our cars AT ALL!!!!!
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Car: Purple & Black 1984 Trans Am T-Top
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
There is no question about the recall...it is real, very well known amongst 3rd Gen owners, and documented ALL OVER THE WEB. The question is whether or not dealers can access the recall information and whether or not they choose to honor it. Many have received new seat belts installed through dealerships at no cost. Just because you made one call and didn't get any info, doesn't mean that the recall doesn't exist. Try again...
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Car: Purple & Black 1984 Trans Am T-Top
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
BTW, just installed my new front belts in under 30 minutes. Only cost me $50 shipped on eBay and was better than waiting and dealing with wondering whether or not they would be replaced via the 26 year old recall. Just glad that I can cross them off of my list. Member
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
According to the woman I spoke to, you can call GM and fill out a reimbursment form. Worth a shot to get you money back.
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Car: 1988 Trans Am, 2005 Sierra 2500
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Hate to say it but you over paid for the kit for your belts, I just ordered a kit for 89bird on here and I only charged his 12.50 and that includes shipping. the kits are only $6 through the dealer I work at and shipping is cheap since their so small. if you still need the rears let me know.
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Car: Purple & Black 1984 Trans Am T-Top
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Hate to say it but you over paid for the kit for your belts, I just ordered a kit for 89bird on here and I only charged his 12.50 and that includes shipping. the kits are only $6 through the dealer I work at and shipping is cheap since their so small. if you still need the rears let me know.
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Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
I picked up the pushbutton and shield kit on eBay about 1 year ago for under $10...very easy to install....even came with instructions...GM part # 14097930....still available online (gmpartsdirect.com) for just over $3...not sure if that's for all 4 buttons but give it a shot. It took nothing more than a piece of strap steel and a flatblade...my previously cracked and pink buttons now look and function like new.
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Car: Various makes/models
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Transmission: Depends on the car
Axle/Gears: Depends on the car
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Need to see if any of my local dealers will still honor this for the '86 SC my parents have (a car I am starting to take over for maintenance work, etc.)
FYI, the driver's buckle assembly, including plastic cover and end button is just about shattered. Luckily, a little duct tape holds things together enough for the buckle to still engage and accept the tab of the belt.
FYI, the driver's buckle assembly, including plastic cover and end button is just about shattered. Luckily, a little duct tape holds things together enough for the buckle to still engage and accept the tab of the belt.
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Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: 4 bolt 350 out of a 78 chevy pickup
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: posi, 3.73
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
Hey you shouldn't even have to call the dealer. Just throw a line to any repair shop, they should have mitchell on demand or alldata which both will give you the complete recall listing and all the details.
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Car: 84 Z-28
Engine: 305 HO
Transmission: r-700
Axle/Gears: 3:73
Re: CALLING ALL 84'-90' FIREBIRDS/CAMAROS (SAFETY RECALL STILL IN EFFECT)
I called the 800 Chevy # to ask about the recall on the belts along with the
recall number.................Got the "not in the system/no such thing " response!
So good luck!
recall number.................Got the "not in the system/no such thing " response!
So good luck!