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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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From: Woodbridge, VA
Car: '89 IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: WC T5
Car wont idle

Hey there. I have an 89 Iroc with an LB9 TPI. She wont idle, I have to keep the RPM's up for the engine to stay running, I also have to give her some gas to get it started, before I did not. This just started this morning, and the past two days I have noticed a whistle behind the driver seat that will grow higher in pitch as the RPM's go up. My SES light does come on, however it has since i got the car 6 months ago.I ran the code a long time ago but cant remember what it was, I believe it had to do with the burn off sensor in my MAF. Any input will be greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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From: Woodbridge, VA
Car: '89 IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: WC T5
Re: Car wont idle

Update. I went out and put another MAF on that I had lying around, and she runs like a champ, at least for about 5 minutes. I would like to still figure out what was wrong. Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Car: 86 T/A, 83 Z/28
Engine: 5.0 TPI, 350 2 X 4 bbl
Transmission: 4 speed auto, 5 speed manual
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi, 3.73 std
Re: Car wont idle

First off we really need to know what codes the ECM is throwing. Second off it might be your idle air control valve or carbon build up in the TB. If no codes show anything interesting to your problem try cleaning the TB ports out and replacing the IAC valve.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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From: Manchester,PA
Car: 86 Firebird SE
Engine: 2.8L
Re: Car wont idle

Didn't GM get rid of the burnoff relay after 85? Anyway, i would do what the last guy said and clean out your IAC valve and ports as well as the throttle body butterfly. Lastly and most important see what code is set in the ECM. This will tell you exactly where to start looking for your problem.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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From: Westminster, MD
Car: 1986 IROC-Z
Engine: 8100 Vortec (496ci)
Transmission: 4L80E (4spd auto)
Axle/Gears: 9" 40 Spline Detriot Locker 4.90
Re: Car wont idle

will it run and idle fine with just disconnecting the maf sensor?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Car: 86 T/A, 83 Z/28
Engine: 5.0 TPI, 350 2 X 4 bbl
Transmission: 4 speed auto, 5 speed manual
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi, 3.73 std
Re: Car wont idle

No not really. The idea is this with the MAF sensor dissconnected the ECM recognises this and just start running off "guesses" as to what it expects there to be for a signal instead of actual data. Now if you had a bad MAF sensor that was sending a BS signal back to the ECM the car would run better by running off of its guesses than the false reading. So it wont rund good but it may run better.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Car: 86 Firebird SE
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Re: Car wont idle

There is a way to check for a faulty MAF. Start the engine and let it settle and idle, then with the handle of a screwdriver tap on the MAF housing(dont beat the crap out of it!) if the rpm changes or the idle stumbles, its most likely a defective MAF.
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