Automatic to Standard
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From: Burlington, Ontario
Car: 92 Camaro Z28 Players GM Motorsport
Automatic to Standard
I'm looking at buying a 86 Iroc Z28 Camaro. Its Automatic right now but I want to convert it to a standard. Has anyone does this before? Is it hard to do? How much will it cost approxamitely and is it worth it?
Thanks, any info would be appreciated!
Thanks, any info would be appreciated!
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From: Warrior AL
Car: 89 Iroc
Engine: 350/Dart heads/hotcam/TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9bolt
Re: Automatic to Standard
It's not cheap. Maybe a couple of grand? (I assume you would go with a T56) You could get a T5 cheaper but there is a big difference in the durability and some fuel economy as well.
You will need pedals, from a third gen (4th may work, I don't remember). You will need the slave and master, bellhousing, fork, LT1 flywheel, clutchkit, crossmember, some kind of way to either run your analog speedo or switch to an aftermarket electric type. If your engine has the older two piece rear main seal you are going to need a conversion flywheel.
I love my 6 speed. I recently had to replace it, I have already been 100,000 miles agains't my old one. I like to shift. If you are going dragracing, an auto is better. For sheer fun nothing beats a straightshift.
It's up to you to decide. Personally, I wouldn't even have my Iroc without the T56.
You will need pedals, from a third gen (4th may work, I don't remember). You will need the slave and master, bellhousing, fork, LT1 flywheel, clutchkit, crossmember, some kind of way to either run your analog speedo or switch to an aftermarket electric type. If your engine has the older two piece rear main seal you are going to need a conversion flywheel.
I love my 6 speed. I recently had to replace it, I have already been 100,000 miles agains't my old one. I like to shift. If you are going dragracing, an auto is better. For sheer fun nothing beats a straightshift.
It's up to you to decide. Personally, I wouldn't even have my Iroc without the T56.
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From: pennsylvania, united states
Car: 1985 & 1988 trans am
Engine: 350 tpi ; 355
Transmission: 700r4 auto; converting to 6 speed
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3:27 posi; 2.73 open
Re: Automatic to Standard
u have to cut the hole in the firewall for the clutch master cyl to align with the clutch pedal which u have to change from the 2 pedal to the 3 pedal setup u need to cut the whole for the shifter to come inside the car then u need the stick upper console shifter plate to be correct but sticks are more fun usually lol
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From: Moorestown, NJ
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: SFI'd 350
Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
Re: Automatic to Standard
Converting over to a stick is pretty expensive now. Back when I did it, it wasn't that bad as TKOs and such could be obtained for a little over 1k.
You will need:
-The transmission of your choice (T5/T56/TKO, etc.)
-A bellhousing
-Adapter plate or aftermarket bellhousing (if using a non-GM trans)
-Dial gauge and fixture for measuring concentricity <<<this part is really important. Lots of the bellhousings arent on center, which will destroy the trans.
-Clutch slave/master cyl. NOS GM pre-bled units are nice if using a stock type setup, but not very common AFAIK.
-U-bolt for retaining the clutch master cyl. if using stock 3rd gen type. These are also not that common AFAIK, but it may be different now.
-Pedals
-New x-member if using t-56/TKO, etc.
-Possibly a new or modded driveshaft
-Shifter
-Pilot and throwout bearing, and fork
-Flywheel for your appl.
-Clutch assembly for your appl.
The trans will require a hole cut in the tunnel for the shifter as well as holes drilled for the clutch pedal. I converted to a TKO awhile back. Its was a mustang one with the adapter plate. PITA to get it set up properly, but its held up quite well and hasn't givent me any trouble. The only downside to a TKO is that the snycro system isnt that user friendly, and downshifts, especially at high RPMs, require good rev matching and double clutching, or the trans will not shift. Its also not the smoothest shifting trans, so if you want something smooth, a T-56 might be better.
If you plan on just using a T5, try to get a later WC. The others are even weaker. Even the WC is only rated to 300 ft-lbs, so it'll scatter if you powershift it in a hi-po setup, or do high RPM clutch dump launches.
You will need:
-The transmission of your choice (T5/T56/TKO, etc.)
-A bellhousing
-Adapter plate or aftermarket bellhousing (if using a non-GM trans)
-Dial gauge and fixture for measuring concentricity <<<this part is really important. Lots of the bellhousings arent on center, which will destroy the trans.
-Clutch slave/master cyl. NOS GM pre-bled units are nice if using a stock type setup, but not very common AFAIK.
-U-bolt for retaining the clutch master cyl. if using stock 3rd gen type. These are also not that common AFAIK, but it may be different now.
-Pedals
-New x-member if using t-56/TKO, etc.
-Possibly a new or modded driveshaft
-Shifter
-Pilot and throwout bearing, and fork
-Flywheel for your appl.
-Clutch assembly for your appl.
The trans will require a hole cut in the tunnel for the shifter as well as holes drilled for the clutch pedal. I converted to a TKO awhile back. Its was a mustang one with the adapter plate. PITA to get it set up properly, but its held up quite well and hasn't givent me any trouble. The only downside to a TKO is that the snycro system isnt that user friendly, and downshifts, especially at high RPMs, require good rev matching and double clutching, or the trans will not shift. Its also not the smoothest shifting trans, so if you want something smooth, a T-56 might be better.
If you plan on just using a T5, try to get a later WC. The others are even weaker. Even the WC is only rated to 300 ft-lbs, so it'll scatter if you powershift it in a hi-po setup, or do high RPM clutch dump launches.
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