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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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will this spring work with vortec head???

RV1943X elgin part number i believe...

i know that i have to remove the dampner spring...

also do i need to use different retainers
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Re: will this spring work with vortec head???

Here's a tip for you to consider.
Use the Manley valve springs part #22410 & retainer Part #23652 and Pioneer screw in studs part #850001 without the hex.
They fit the Vortec heads without machining and will allow .520 lift safely.
I have used these numerous times with success.
All you have to do is remove the factory studs and tap the bosses, use a pair of nuts locked on to the stud to screw them in.
Comp makes a stud remover tool part # 5306 that helps to remove the studs and tap the holes (no drilling needed).
HTH

Edit: pressures are 125# seat...340# open @.500 lift
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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Re: will this spring work with vortec head???

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
Here's a tip for you to consider.
Use the Manley valve springs part #22410 & retainer Part #23652 and Pioneer screw in studs part #850001 without the hex.
They fit the Vortec heads without machining and will allow .520 lift safely.
I have used these numerous times with success.
All you have to do is remove the factory studs and tap the bosses, use a pair of nuts locked on to the stud to screw them in.
Comp makes a stud remover tool part # 5306 that helps to remove the studs and tap the holes (no drilling needed).
HTH

Edit: pressures are 125# seat...340# open @.500 lift
So you think that would be safe with an XR276 cam? .502/.510 lift...

Obviously it needs to be double checked once installed.

I also hear that LS3 yellow springs and Comp beehive retainers will also work.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Re: will this spring work with vortec head???

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
Here's a tip for you to consider.
Use the Manley valve springs part #22410 & retainer Part #23652 and Pioneer screw in studs part #850001 without the hex.
They fit the Vortec heads without machining and will allow .520 lift safely.
I have used these numerous times with success.
All you have to do is remove the factory studs and tap the bosses, use a pair of nuts locked on to the stud to screw them in.
Comp makes a stud remover tool part # 5306 that helps to remove the studs and tap the holes (no drilling needed).
HTH

Edit: pressures are 125# seat...340# open @.500 lift
What are you thoughts on the RV1943X springs installed at 1.700" using the stock valves, retainers, and keepers? It should give around 130# closed at 1.700" for the 220 duration, .492 lift with 1.5 rockers roller cam being installed. Vortec valve guide boss height will be machined down .200" and the OD will be reduced for damper installation.

What about running a different keeper for a 1.750" installed height if I want to install 1.6 rockers later on? Seat pressure would be around 120#.
110+.1(370) = 110+37 = 147 # at 1.7" installed height
110+.050(370) = 110+13 = 128 # at 1.75" installed height
Maybe just machine pockets another .050" for decent seat pressure and gain .050" of lift giving max lift of 1.75 - 1.160 +.050 = .540"

Code:
RV-1943X Details 
Part No.	Free Lgth.	O.D.	I.D.	Wire Size	Closed pos.	Open Pos.	# of cls. L/R	Solid Ht.
RV-1943X	2.140	1.253/1.267	.869/.883	.192	104-116 @ 1.800	309-341 @ 1.200	7.00 RH	1.160
Another option is the GM 12499224 Z06 springs for $65.
They have a 1.085" bind height and 90# at 1.8" installed, 375 lb/in.
So installing at 1.7" should give 90+.1*375 = 90+37.5 = 127.5 # closed. Good for the roller cam
1.700 - 1.085 + .050 = .565" max lift.

Last edited by junkcltr; Dec 12, 2013 at 04:02 PM.
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