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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 03:42 AM
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how to determine engine type

ok there was a member on this site that has me guessing about my engine size now (305 or 350) so i guess i need to fine the number stamped on the engine somewhere. where are they? a little back story is, when i was looking at the car the PO told me engine has about 102k and the body had over 200k so im guessing the engine was either swapped out or rebuilt. he told me it was a LT1 which is found in Corvettes (which i come to find out its not true) what i have is a Tuned Port Injection engine either a 305 or 350
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 05:24 AM
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Re: how to determine engine type

The ONLY reliable way, short of measuring the bore & stroke, is the block casting number.

It is conveniently located in the most conspicuous place they could find to put it, easily read in all circumstances. (yeah right) On top of the bell housing flange behind the driver's side head.



Every "rebuilt" or "swapped" engine is "from a Vette". There are probably 50 times as many rebuilt motors running around "from a Vette" than there ever have been Vettes. It's probably the single most common lie in all of hot-rodding. Next most common lie is that it's from a 69 Z28. Calling some random motor a "LT1", more often mutilated into what the hood badge said which was "LT-1", is the most common of all of the variants of that. Basically that means the owner has no idea what it is, and is ripping you off. It is especially common when the block is a 3970010, which is itself the most common casting there is; it was used in everything from the old LT1, to 75 Impala 2-bbl motors, to trucks, you name it.

Get the numbers you find and post them.

Someone will pipe up about the stamping codes in front of the pass side head. Those are NOT reliable, because they can be easily removed (in fact are INEVITABLY removed when the block is decked) and re-stamped. Ignore such talk, it is worthless. Those numbers can lie: the block casting cannot.
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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Re: how to determine engine type

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
The ONLY reliable way, short of measuring the bore & stroke, is the block casting number.

It is conveniently located in the most conspicuous place they could find to put it, easily read in all circumstances. (yeah right) On top of the bell housing flange behind the driver's side head.



Every "rebuilt" or "swapped" engine is "from a Vette". There are probably 50 times as many rebuilt motors running around "from a Vette" than there ever have been Vettes. It's probably the single most common lie in all of hot-rodding. Next most common lie is that it's from a 69 Z28. Calling some random motor a "LT1", more often mutilated into what the hood badge said which was "LT-1", is the most common of all of the variants of that. Basically that means the owner has no idea what it is, and is ripping you off. It is especially common when the block is a 3970010, which is itself the most common casting there is; it was used in everything from the old LT1, to 75 Impala 2-bbl motors, to trucks, you name it.

Get the numbers you find and post them.

Someone will pipe up about the stamping codes in front of the pass side head. Those are NOT reliable, because they can be easily removed (in fact are INEVITABLY removed when the block is decked) and re-stamped. Ignore such talk, it is worthless. Those numbers can lie: the block casting cannot.
i have tried for 45 minutes trying to get a look at the numbers behind the driver side head. but there is too many damn wire bundles there, its pretty much impossible to get a look
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Re: how to determine engine type

ok i was able to make out some numbers on the front of the passenger side block VO513SNB and below from what i could make out was 2HN246776 this help out?
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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Re: how to determine engine type

no sofa has it on the spot. you need that number on the drivers side. chances are it's a 3970010 block but those also came in 2 bolt and 4 bolt main. You would have to pull the pan to be sure. Hey sounds like a great time to pull and engine and stroke it yeah?
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Oftentimes the last 3 digits of the casting number are cast into the side of the block in large numbers (seen from underneath). The last 3 are all you need to ID the casting.
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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Re: how to determine engine type

Later blocks also have 5.0L and 5.7L cast into the blocks since there were no other variations to make with those castings.
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