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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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Car: 89 Formula 350
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My car wont start

I am having trouble trying to figure out what my problem is.
The car is a 89 formula with a 406 small block with long tubes and a mini starter.
Earlier today I put a new stereo in and when I went to start my car it everything turned on inside the car but it wouldn't even attempt to turn over. I have had problems in the past with the starter. I've never had it where the starter wouldn't turn over. Does anyone have any other suggestions on what it could be? or would I be better off trying the starter first?
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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Re: My car wont start

Originally Posted by skylineR32
My car wont start
Does anyone have any other suggestions on what it could be?


ESP don't work well on the web ,a lot more info would be helpful
What tests have you one?

Is the battery fully charged? (like checked with a meter )
Do the dash lights come on with the Ign?
Do the headlights work?
Do you get any noise at all when trying to start , clicking , etc ?
Are the battery terminals clean and the cable connections tight? ( both ends )


Originally Posted by skylineR32
I have had problems in the past with the starter.
And they would be ......................?
Did you fix them .........................?
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Re: My car wont start

The battery is fully charged, the radio comes on the headlights work everything else works it just wont turn over. The starter doesn't make any noise.
The battery terminal ends are clean and tight on both ends.
Its kind of hard to describe the problems I had before but sometimes it would make a grinding noise, but if I would wait a couple of seconds and try it again and it would always start. We replaced the starter and never had that problem again.
Hopefully this was enough info.
Let me know if you need any more info.
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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Re: My car wont start

Originally Posted by skylineR32
The battery is fully charged, the radio comes on the headlights work everything else works it just wont turn over. The starter doesn't make any noise.
Park brake on , out of gear

At the starter solenoid , jump the small terminal ( purple wire ) to the big terminal from the battery and see if it cranks.
IF it doesn't then the starter is your problem

If it does , then you need to check the wiring from the Ign switch to the starter

Typical starter circuit.
http://92b4crs.tripod.com/86wiring/dia-pics/30-4.jpg

You don't state in your profile what trans you have ?
You should have a NSS on the shifter with a auto and a safety switch on the clutch pedal with a stick.
Either of those could be faulty cutting power to the starter
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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Re: My car wont start

Does your car have vats?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Re: My car wont start

since he was f'ing with wires installing a new stereo.. how much you want to bet it has to do with that? I will put up my pink slip against yours.. let's do this!
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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Re: My car wont start

While messing with the wires he could have cut/broke connection with the park/neutral safety switch. Just a thought.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:24 AM
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Re: My car wont start

Yes the Park Nuetral safety switch wire runs right through that area.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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Re: My car wont start

VATS immediately comes to mind. Theres two small-gauge orange wires leaving the steering column down by the ignition switch/harmonica connector. Check them and their small white connector!
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Re: My car wont start

Originally Posted by EvelBist
VATS immediately comes to mind.
Until the OP comes back and says exactly what he has ,
everything is pure speculation
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 07:23 AM
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Re: My car wont start

Originally Posted by vetteoz
Until the OP comes back and says exactly what he has ,
everything is pure speculation
true.. but it's more than likely he cut or accidentally yanked on some wire(s) etc.. hopefully he can track down what happened rather easily.. especially if it's his DD.. that feeling is not good.. thank god I have five cars now.. always a spare on hand.. LOL
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Re: My car wont start

Originally Posted by vdoggie
true.. but it's more than likely he cut or accidentally yanked on some wire(s) etc
Like I said
Speculation ;a waste of bandwidth without the OP's input

in any case ,a thinking person having problems after playing around with something would go back and check their work instead of asking online for people to guess at what "may" be wrong

Only they know what they did or can see under their dash, as I stated 1st up ESP don't work well over the net
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