400 block - cam removal difficulty
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400 block - cam removal difficulty
Hey folks. I just got off the horn with a buddy of mine that is swapping a new cam into his 400 SBC. The block is a 1980 circa and has been bored .030 with an offset ground 400 crank with small journal 327 rods that give it .010" more stroke..... Comes out to a 417"
Anywho..... he said that he was having trouble getting the cam out. Both the old and new cams are rollers. The old one that was attached to its home was a single pattern @.050 230, .512" . He got it out to the second bearing journal (the cam that is) and it just stopped. He said it really felt like it hit something solid. So I suggested sliding it back in the rest of the way and trying again and turning it a bit more. He did that a few times and said there is just no way.... So after rechecking the obvious stuff (like forgettin lifters or the fuel pump pushrod) I suggested he turn the crank like 30* and give it a try.... So he does this and it slid right out.... So it seems that the crank was in the way of the cam sliding out some how.... ( I think
). I really haven't run into this on a SBC before but I haven't much experience with 400s. Is this a 400 thing? I dunno.... Not a big deal since he got it to go now but I just thought I would see if any of the heavy line gurus know about this.
Laterzzzzzz
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Anywho..... he said that he was having trouble getting the cam out. Both the old and new cams are rollers. The old one that was attached to its home was a single pattern @.050 230, .512" . He got it out to the second bearing journal (the cam that is) and it just stopped. He said it really felt like it hit something solid. So I suggested sliding it back in the rest of the way and trying again and turning it a bit more. He did that a few times and said there is just no way.... So after rechecking the obvious stuff (like forgettin lifters or the fuel pump pushrod) I suggested he turn the crank like 30* and give it a try.... So he does this and it slid right out.... So it seems that the crank was in the way of the cam sliding out some how.... ( I think
). I really haven't run into this on a SBC before but I haven't much experience with 400s. Is this a 400 thing? I dunno.... Not a big deal since he got it to go now but I just thought I would see if any of the heavy line gurus know about this.Laterzzzzzz
Matt
Yes, with 400 strokers. They make smaller base circle cams for this reason, even sometimes on 383's. A lot of people use rods with bolt on caps rather than the sock type nuts and bolts for a little added clearance. It only happens with large cams though.
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It happens with any cam, even a stock one. It makes no difference what the cam's lift is or whether it's a roller or whether it's a small base circle or anything else about it; it's the bearing journal hitting the side of a rod.
He needs to turn the crank a little bit, maybe 20°. Some of the rods are inside the "volume" that the cam normally occupies.
He needs to turn the crank a little bit, maybe 20°. Some of the rods are inside the "volume" that the cam normally occupies.
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