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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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2001 Mustang GT vs. 91 Z28

I was out the other night cruis'n and this guy pulls up and is look'n over like he wanted to race, traffic sucked, but finally..... we got a light, i got him by about car lenght before go'n into 5th. I thought those mustangs were faster? this one was an auto. though, but still.

Anyone know what a stock 2001 mustang gt runs in the 1/4?
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 02:32 AM
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C&D listed it at 14.2.
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 02:35 AM
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I think the average time for the autos is like 14.3-14.5ish...
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Run me. :lala:
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 05:43 AM
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Run me. :lala:
Notice he said GT not moded SVT Cobra

at monkie

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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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5spd's run 13.9-14.2 and auto's around 14.3-14.5 . I saw a 99+ GT stock running 14.3-14.4 @ 97 or so last weekend.
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I saw a 99 ish GT with a few mods and a manual tranny runing a mid 13. I talked to him and he had a few goodies and was a great guy not an F-body basher, you could also tell he had been racing for a long time.
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i street raced a 2000GT auto with flowmaster cat back exhaust til about 70mph and had about 3-4 lengths on him. theyre considerably faster than the 96-98 4.6 versions, but not fast enough to keep up with my modded Vette. if they had the same mods as me, it would be pretty damn close
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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My friend a while back when her car only had Flowmaster and gears she was running high 13s. low 14s 13.8-14.1. She has a 1999 GT Convertable with an auto but she can drive REALLY good. Nice kill though.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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And you will kill him!!!!! That TTA engine must be sweet.
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And you will kill him!!!!! That TTA engine must be sweet.
still have some bugs to work out but its gettin there...of course my tranny doesn't like it
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5.0 mustang is the koolest mustang owner on this board!!

i had a question 5.0 mustang
what does a 77 mustang 2 run in the 1/4 and what are the hp and t/q specs on it?
i have a race set up with one soon and its a manual i believe
! thankx for any info
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i'll run ya
Nah, I wouldn't waste my time with a V6. Sweet car BTW.
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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Nah, I wouldn't waste my time with a V6. Sweet car BTW.

how about a :hail: :hail: :hail: turbo V6?
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Nah, I wouldn't waste my time with a V6. Sweet car BTW.
thanks took some work but it's slowly gettin there
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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Run me. :lala:

I would love to run you. But there is a problem of distance and my clutch gave out on me today.
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Re: 5.0 mustang is the koolest mustang owner on this board!!

Originally posted by jesse83cfi
i had a question 5.0 mustang
what does a 77 mustang 2 run in the 1/4 and what are the hp and t/q specs on it?
i have a race set up with one soon and its a manual i believe
! thankx for any info
BLAA!! The 74-78 Mustang II's are dogs. They have 139HP and not much torque. The run high 16's at best..probably more like low 17's. I'll look it up though...
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wow..this is bad!!

Her are times form old Motor Trend '77 Cobra II. 0-60 11.3 and 1/4 17.7@77.6 ..hope that is for an auto. OK..139HP and 250 ft lbs torque. The 78 King Cobra(no different form Cobra II as far as performance) ran 17.0@80.6 ..that must be 4spd model and the other time is auto. Those were some bad days for mustangs..
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 10:33 PM
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Wasn't every car slow in the late 70's?
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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Wasn't every car slow in the late 70's?

yeah, but not that bad
Old Apr 21, 2002 | 11:43 PM
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1974 Z28 350ci...150hp...17.4@80mph Nah, no car in the 70's were as bad as a Mustang.
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 06:25 AM
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how about a 70's L82 vette

they were still good for about a 15.5 1/4

or even a 74 454 vette........that still had some juice
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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And they cost how much....? You gotta be the smartest guy that I know of! Have you still not figured out that you cant compare a corvette to a mustang? Yea, well I'm sure a 74 Ferrari could beat the corvette! :sillylol: Nice try junior
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 09:51 AM
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Actually monkie the ratings you listed was for the 1975 Camaro. The 1974 had a net power rating of 255 hp at the wheels. it was a low 15 second car. the 1975 on the other hand was pretty slow. That was the year that the catyltic convertor came out and the Z28 went away for a little while.
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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Wasn't every car slow in the late 70's?
Before 1973 most muscle cars were pretty fast! In 73 the smog crap happened, then goodbye musclecars.
Old Apr 22, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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The 77s were SLOW, I know everyone said this before, but if it is still stock it will be in the 17s no questions, maybe even higher. I don't know too much about these year Mustangs, and most Mustang guys agree that if it wasn't for the fox body saving the Mustang, it wouldn't be here. You will more than likely beat the Mustang, but I'm not sure what those cfi's run!!

Hey Monkie it's smart not to waste your time with that V6, with a boost controller he would wax you.
Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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Man,that tta would wax monkie's car stock.Those cobras are not all they are cracked up to be.I waxed the hell out of a 99 that had 3.7x,5-speed and some kind of aftermarket headers with a bone stock 99 6-speed Z28.Ford engines have gone completley down hill since the last 302 and that even would have been a dog if the fox bodies were not so light.
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You're so full of ****. The TTA would rape me with little mods true. A stock 99 6 speed Z28 on the other hand....LMAO. Please, with the mods you claimed that Cobra you raced had you wouldn't know what hit you. And with the mods I have...well you get the idea. Bring your little 99 Z28, I'll show you what its all about.
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well with a good driver a 99 Z28 would have no problem running at least a low 13. and some freak cars have run 12.8's - 12.9's stock. the cobra would be close with mods but I still think it would lose.

And cars still had power up til 74. After 74 everything went downhill.
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Man,I **** you not,this guy may or may not have had the mods he said he did but I know how the race turned out.I used to work with this guy and I had him by more than a car link by the time we got to 70 mph.
Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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If the Cobra didn't have the "fix" then I can see it happening. Chances are he is BSing you about his mods. Happens all the time. But I can bet you $100 if you get behind the wheel of a stock auto or 6 speed 99 Z28 and race my Cobra it wouldn't turn out as the other race did. With the mods I have and the time I ran in the 1/8th I am in the 12.8-12.7 range.
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And show me a stock 99 Z28 that has run a high 12...hell a low 13.
Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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And show me a stock 99 Z28 that has run a high 12...hell a low 13.
The high 12 might a little hard to come by, but low 13s are so common I question how many times you've been to the freakin track...

Stock for stock, or mod for mod, the LS1s leave the Cobras in the dust end of story... The '03 Cobra looks to change this however (especially with no '03 Competition from GM, sigh.)

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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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just take a look at every LS1 F-body made from 98 up and your looking at a low 13 second car with a half-way decent driver. GMHTP got a 99 Z-28 bone stock to run a 12.89 bone stock on a good weather day. And then they got a 2001 SS bone Stock weighing 3800lbs on a 90 degree day to run 12.9. Still don't believe me? check the back issues of GMHTP.
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Hell,I'd say this car is a mid 13 second car at best;and the car is not even mine!I'm just saying the mustang lost by more than a car link and I think if we would have had more room I would have put more distance between us.
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Its a magazine buddy. I have seen plenty LS1s run. I saw a brand new off the show room floor Firehawk run a 9.2 in the 1/8th. SAD! The LS1s aren't all that they are cracked up to be.
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its all about potential buddy. So that guy couldn't drive an escort. the fact is they have the power with the right driver.
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Oh and by the way it was the November 2001 issue.
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Ok ending the LS1 vs Cobra idea here. Makes no difference. Stock for stock the LS1 wins hands down. 4.10s in a stock Cobra and the Cobra wins. It makes no difference if the LS1 CAN or CAN NOT run this or that in the 1/4th. Fact is not many people at all on the road are a race car driver so that 12.8 that Sir Langalot an ex race car driver can pull out of a LS1's *** is about equal to Jimmy Lando's (a farmer in the upper state) 13.7 that he can pull out of it. Dont compare real life to magazines it just doesn't work that way
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BTW if you didn't already know, sometimes a company will pay the magazine to make their product look alittle better than it already is.
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riiiiight and we all know how Gm would take money and give it to GMHTP to make the Camaro look faster. Yeah because they care so much about it right?
Old Apr 24, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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ooops forgive me moderators I just read the post at the top of the racing section about this guy. I see that from the other topics he doesn't even own a Cobra so I won't be replying anymore to this. I am not in here to start a battle like this guy.
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Yea I dont own a Cobra...bring your *** to SC and I will show you my Cobra and what it can do to your car or a LS1

me to LS1--> :hail: LS1 because we allll know that the LS1 was build by G0D's hands Hey kids, with just a K&N air filter system the LS1 is easily capable of high 10's. And if you put the K&N sticker on your hatch it gives you an extra 9hp :hail:
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well..

I would say that a 5.0 is not powerful or capable of more than a comparable GM. Hell..for less than $1000 my PIG 93GT ran 13.83@100.56 STILL spinning in 1st and through the 1-2 shift. If I got better hook up I could get easy 13.5 . So I would not say that the only reason 5.0's are quick is because they are "light". Mine is full optioned,still has spare and jack, AND a 150lb + stereo system weighing in at 3500 lbs with me. Same mods on a 300-400 lb lighter LX and you are about or close to a 13.1 . LS1's are fast yes...but not invinsible. BTW the guy that got the 12.9 with the SS..that is Evan Smith..he works for Muscle Mustang and Fast Ford magazine. He also got a 13.3 for a stock 2001 Cobra. As a matter of fact he also ran 13.6 with a 88LX 5.0 with just K&N,short belt and gears...all stock exhaust. I've NEVER seen a stock LS1 run a 12.9 or even close. My friends 2000 SS ran 13.8's stock and with mods..13.47 .
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Wait,wait I think this guys number.I detect another one of those white who thinks he's ghetto guys who lives off his parents.Monkie is a true ford fanatic,one who is not intelligent enough[or just does not want to]make it on his own.Most people like that can't understand that they could go faster with less money with a dinosaur small block chevrolet.
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Through our family my dad owns a 69 Camaro, I own a 92 Camaro, I did own a 97 Camaro that ran a best of 12.8 with mods. So don't tell me I don't know my Chevys. I just got tired of listening to my cars squeak instead of the exhaust or sterio. Join the V8 mustang club and you will get not only no squeaks in your car but also a exhaust tone no f-body or Vette can have. And like I said, no LS1 will run a high 12 or low 13 in real life. Keep dreaming guys. Its sad, it cost me so much more to get that POS LT1 to break 12s and here I am with the mods I have and I am already well into the 12s and I am just getting started. Thanks but I will keep my FORD
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Well,thats cool man.I guess you have the exception to those year cars.Cause I know I smoked that 99 bad in a stock 99ls1.Whatever works for you.
Old Apr 24, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Just so everyone knows this guy is BS.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...threadid=99155

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=101251
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look at the one where he says he cracks his friends hatch! I guess he is right about getting a tone that no F-body or vette will ever have.



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