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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 06:25 AM
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lost to an import :)

I have to admit, I'm a huge import fan. I love Supra's (friend has a twin turbo 94, modded) and another friend has a Celica GT-Four All wheel drive turbo, modded of course. These cars are nuts. Anyhow...

I raced an 89 Supra Turbo... he has upped the boost, downpipe, midpipe, exhaust, intake and some other minor things. damn that car worked me good!

I don't mind though he was very mature about it.

I'm glad the imports around my town are performance-oriented... not much for rice around here thank-***.

I also lost to my friend's Celica AWD Turbo and my friend's MR2 Turbo. LOL.... The car was parked all winter so far I am 4 losses 1 win (bone stock 89 iroc 350 TPI) lol.

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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Bummer about the losses.

Why dont you make it faster and whoop some @ss?!? The older supra should be within your reach.

This might help.

http://www.nosnitrous.com/HiOctn/Pro...NOS/gmefi.html

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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It's tough to run with boost
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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no offense, i think your a "Camaro" poser, No way in hell did you lose to them cars and if you did, I sure wouldn't post it in a Camaro board so I can get my *** reamed out
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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What so "POSER" about him? Because he lost to an import? Those are good deaths - [all boosted cars]. Dont underestimate the import crowd.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
no offense, i think your a "Camaro" poser, No way in hell did you lose to them cars and if you did, I sure wouldn't post it in a Camaro board so I can get my *** reamed out
Ummm dude, no offense to you either, but shut the hell up. I'd take a Camaro over an import any day, but that doesn't mean a new TT Supra is slower than I am, races aren't won on hopes and dreams, their won on power, and the cars the dude listed have got power to spare. I sure as hell wouldn't feel bad about losing to those cars, those are imports that are actually worthy of respect, not some riced out Civic (If you lost to one of those, then I would laugh). Just cause its not American doesn't mean its not fast, if you choose to hate all imports just because you've got a domestic, that's your business, but hopefully the rest of the board isn't as blind. '94 modded TT Supra vs. '92 modded 350 Camaro is a hell of a race. Give respect where its deserved, and quit being ignorant.
Oh and to the dude that lost, good try man, get a Turbo setup yourself and then see who wins! Ignore anyone who makes fun of you, it sounded like a good race.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 12:40 AM
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I don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
I know that the 92 350 TPI came with 245 hp stock, because well, I have a 90 and it's the same engine. A twin turbo Supra, with upped boost, I would guess 325-375 horsepower depending on boost level. An MR2 is nothing more than a go-cart with a turbo, I.e. it's light as hell and has plenty of power on tap. I believe him, personally.

What do you have for an intake, Garret?
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 06:24 AM
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you made a mistake, a supra with upped boost can make between 325-800hp. but those huge numbers only on race gas.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
"Daddy" must be talking about the LT1's that were made from '93 - '97 and had 275hp, the most the L98 had from the factory was 245 hp.Even a stock LT1 will have its share of trouble with a newer supra.
Please, DO trill me with some more of you mechanical wit.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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The older Turbo Supras had 220hp out of the factory with only 5psi boost. Pump it up and obviously the power will increase, 10psi maybe 300hp with no other mods. Unfortunately the older motors do not have the strength or the good intake setup of the 93+ cars, not to mention they weigh 200 or 300lbs more than the newer ones. I remember seing one or two hopped up ones running low 13's. high 12's a few years back (opposed to low 15's stock), so they can be fast if the owner puts it together right.

Then again, why bother when a 93+ is a better car and ran mid-low 13's out of the factory. Low 12's are possible with some boost/bolt-ons and some run into the low 11's with turbo and intercooler upgrades. You won't see too many 12.0 or better Supras on the street, they only street race tham and take them to import events-like the one before Hi-Tech in May (AM session), where i saw at least 20 of them on the way out (when we rolled in).

I wouldn't be embarassed about the MR2, they can be made to run in the 13's - you won't find any 11 second ones though. The Celica is a different story, they were sleds out of the factory and never ran that well moded - maybe a 13.5 is all they have to fight with. The talon/Eclipse was the quick turbo 4WD car, not the Celica.

Why don't you put 125hp NOS into it?
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 09:43 AM
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are imports and domestic's even in the same league? i mean, your talking about a tiny import 1.8-3.4 liter engines vs our 305+
Personally i love to race with imports, but at the same time, you take the NOS or the turbo/super chargers away, they are nothing.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 10:02 AM
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I perfer the domestic sicne it takes a lot less cash to make them fast! I've had some premium cars but never modified them due to the cost. I purchased a 87 vett for half the cost of my imports, then modified the crap out of it and hardly anyone could run with me! However, I sold it because my wife and I had a baby the is for selling the vett, not having our baby , anyway, that's how I ended up with my Z...similar engine which means that I already know how to modify the engine and make it perform. I'm finished with the engine and getting ready to put a new tranny in. Anyway, my point is that you can make any car fast, but it takes a lot less money to make the domestic cars run in the low 12's AND 99% of the imports i see at the track with the huge sitckers and even the modified ricers only run 14's if they are lucky...........AND they spend large amounts of cash to get them into the 14's????? I just don't understand that?????
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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i agree with you craiger.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by 92superram
you made a mistake, a supra with upped boost can make between 325-800hp. but those huge numbers only on race gas.
It was a guess. I kept away from the large numbers because you can make a SBC produce over 1000 hp if you throw enough money at it.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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i laugh at some of the ignorant comments about imports "take the NOS or turbo away they are nothing.." blah blah blah ever think some are BUILT around that in mind? **** take my turbo away i'm left with a 3.8 with 8.0:1 CR, talk about fast

sorry you guys don't know what real imports are, as in Rx7's Supra TT's 300Zx's..

keep racing those 14-15 second hopped up civic's and think you're kings instead of running with the big boys...
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
How about you tell me where your Dad's dealership is and I won't buy any cars from him.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 02:34 PM
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Fly...I agree, i had a 300x and an ttrx7....both very fast, i would guess low 14-hi 13's. Anyway, it cost a load full to upgrade thses awsome "ricers" For the majority, these pluss the supra's are sweet!
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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i'm not an import fan really. but if a car is fast its fast. Just because there are a lot of riced out civics that run 15's-16's doesn't mean there arent fast imports out there...which a lot domestic guys say they're aren't, well i myself have seen high 9 second supra's as STREET cars...no much is going to stop that..but they are few and far between..but please guy give respect where respect is due, there ARE fast imports out there, a lot of which will rip a lot of us new *******s..
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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LOL @ iroc22!!!!


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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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dude, where have you been man?? you're car is wrecked? damn.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
either one of ya's or both of ya's are smoking some good stuff, have any to share?

i hope you misquoted your dad, if not your dad needs to go back to 1st grade in Fbody School...
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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How about you tell me where your Dad's dealership is and I won't buy any cars from him.
LOL, I seriously hope he is talking about an Lt1.
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Yea those factory turbo imports are fast as hell with a few mods. There was a tt 300zx at the drag strip last time I went running low 12s. After he made his run he turned on his booming sound system. So it shows you how quick those things can be because he was going that quick with a system in his car and radials. Although the Civics with turbos were running slow as hell even with the turbos. You could tell which cars were made for turbos (Supras, 300zx, RX7) because they were running low 12s and 13s while the imports with added turbos were running 15s and 14s But imagine how fast our cars would be with TT or a SC Reminds me of this article (yes I know its old) http://www.bankspower.com/FNN/Banks_...ht_030102.html

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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yes everything is built around something, but what would you rather have, a engine or a 5,000 supercharger cuz your engine can't produce the power? i hope every one who post on this website says the engine..

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Yes! the TT cars i had were fast STOCK! I was really impressed with the 3000gt becaise they have all wheel dirve. I have been tossing around the idea of selling my Z and gettin a Typhoon sicne I am an avid mountain biker/skier and would make a great family car/hot rod! But i know that i will not be able to get what i want for my Z! I am about to put a new transmssion in it to handle the 550 flywheel hp. I guess since i have put so much work into it, i might as well keep it! Guess I'll get a second car. But yes, the twin turbo cars have a lot of potential, but they are expensive in the first place, and to mod them, $$$$!! cost a lot more that the domestic cars!
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Plus with turbo cars the parts on them cost $$$$ so watch what you break. The parts can set you back some. And you don't find too many turbo cars lying around in the yards.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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Yeah I am not mad the import scene around here is really good actually, the guys are friendly only a few posers. My best friend's 91 Celica GT-Four is FAST... it's funny because when we're in his car we killed a C4 vette and this guy was the typical domestic guy... he was all liek "that there a 4 banger son?" my buddy says "yep... 13 second four banger how 'bout you?"

anyhow my point is that I love domestics AND imports; I think most mature true car guys can appreciate both cars. If money wasn't a thing I would like to do-up an MKIV Supra as well as a ram air t/a.

My intake? I have a K&N ont he end of the TB right now *ick* thing sucks up pure heat talk about "warm air intake"... anyhow I have a nice 4" dual CAI going in in few weeks waiting on the battery relocation kit to come in.. should be sweet probably 10hp.

headers will be coming over summer, then Eibach/KYB's

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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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In general, I can't stand the ****en posers, The young kids that put stickers, wings, rims, ground effects. They think that their car is fast, I hate that ****, I show them up real fast though. There is a primered Neon that drives around town with ground effects, double decker wing, and that annoying bumblebee exhaust, My friend ripped him a new ******* and my friend had a MERCURY TOPAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is a lowered S10 Chevy Truck that drives around that has racing seats, custom grille, rims, exhaust, tail light lenses. AND DO YOU WANNA KNOW SOMETHING????? HE GOT HIS *** HANDED TO HIM BY A FORD PROBE!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS **** IS TOO FUNNY
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Yeah, car got crashed, bought a Mustang
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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Yeah, car got crashed, bought a Mustang
Oh man, so now you hang out at the Corral.net?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 02:50 AM
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A R spec motor is about 10K, and has 525 hp!! Imports rev higher and faster than our cars. The power loss is a lot less as well. And of course 4WD is always a good way to go. I could make a civic take down a vet, but it would cost a TON of money and time. And that is what it comes down too. Just remember it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, a win is a win.
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don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
Then ur dad's a moron and so are u. The reason they have 245hp not 240 from 89 is because of a lighter piston change (5hp). I think u may be mistaken 270 hp with the LT1 93 350. Uh i bet you couldnt even tell what size rear those cars have and what gear size. Go back to www.newbie16yearoldcamaro.com and post there. Do not laugh at anyone losing, i bet that TT Supra would put a beating on u.
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In general, I can't stand the ****en posers, The young kids that put stickers, wings, rims, ground effects. They think that their car is fast, I hate that ****, I show them up real fast though. There is a primered Neon that drives around town with ground effects, double decker wing, and that annoying bumblebee exhaust, My friend ripped him a new ******* and my friend had a MERCURY TOPAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is a lowered S10 Chevy Truck that drives around that has racing seats, custom grille, rims, exhaust, tail light lenses. AND DO YOU WANNA KNOW SOMETHING????? HE GOT HIS *** HANDED TO HIM BY A FORD PROBE!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS **** IS TOO FUNNY
I also think that you need to settle down before you have a brain anuerysm (spelling g/f told me how hehe). Kid tell me what kind of car you have so i can hand you your ***. Ya know some people just liek the sound of their exhaust and liek to pimp their rides out. Quit worrying what other people do and worry about urself. Ugh its little 16 year old punks like you in the 305 TBI RS that think they are the **** cuz they have a v8. No offense to the v8 guys i just know cuz i was 16 years with a rs v8 and couldnt understand why i lost a race, ive stepped up from that retardedness tho. *** seriously take some ridilin go back 2 the dmv do us ALL a favor and give them ur license, cuz u sound like a kid that would hand a "93 ford taurus their ***" cuz ur soooo fast. And thats the style that like 60% of society likes, the euro style. I dont know why but crying on this board wont help it. Now go have ur dad feed u lies about ur 300hp TBI 305, mature a bit then post okay?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, a win is a win.
Almost verbatim from the Fast and the Furious.
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i have a 1992 z-28 with a racing cam come race me you ****in ***
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
i have a 1992 z-28 with a racing cam come race me you ****in ***
Uh oh, not the racing cam.
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i got a racing cam in my shopping cart!! lets race for papers!!!


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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 02:26 AM
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I think any of us here will race you pep sqweek....:hail:
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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ohhhhh did someone say race??? i'm in
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I don't know import's but 92's with the 350 TPI stock came with about 270 hp, I know this because my dad works at the Chevy dealer and he tells me everything bout Camaro's? Need any more info, Let me know
LOL!:sillylol:

Nice punctuation Junior. Are you asking us if your daddy works at a dealer or if he's talking about Camaros?

I bet you have some serious NAWS on your 5,000,000 HP racing cam camaro too. :sillylol:

Hey, Col. Mustard called, he said you need to get a Clue.:sillylol:

LMAO!
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this is just too funny!

on a serious note though, Im getting so tired of seing people post about how the "beat a Civic today!" or something like that. It pisses me off to no end. I mean come on, we've got Camaro's and Firebirds, I used to have a 305 in mine, so I know how "fast" they are. but seriously, post about real races. I want to hear about Mustang vs. Camaro, or import vs. Camaro, and stuff like that, not rice vs. Camaro. its getting old. I know some people dont have the time/money/desire/knowledge to make their cars fast, and I have respect for those people, they drive their car because they like too. but for the people that come on here and talk like their car is the fastest thing on the road when all they have is a 305 with a "racing cam", go away. come back when your motor has some ***** to it.

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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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we can have the p*issing contest all day long "domestic vs. Import".... but the fact remains that any car, and I do mean ANY car can be fast if your willing to pay the cash.... i've saw Chevettes that will rip most of us a new bunghole.... (it was hilarious, huge @$$ blower sticking out of the hood of a chevette....) anyway, any car can be fast it all depends on what you prefer and what your willing to spend on it.... never under estimate the car sitting beside of you on the line, it may just whoop ya bad....

our cars come with big cubic inches, their cars come with big turbos.... its all the same, take away their turbo's they are slow, take away some of our inches, we are slow....

By all means, laugh your @$$es off at every fart can wearin, big wing sportin, sticker stuck lame duck out there, but give respect where its due.... step down when you are beaten, then go mod it and come back.... hopefully when you come back and kick their bums they will be so gracious....

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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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From: Mays Landing NJ
Car: 2018 Camaro SS
Engine: LT1 w/Paxton 1500SL
yeah i'm kinda tired of seeing camaro's beat civics or wahooo my camaro beat a cavalier

its like some of the people go picking on cars they KNOW they can beat, what fun is that?

I laugh at the "well take ___ away and their nothing" its all how the motor was built. Sure take away my turbo i'm nothing, but my motor was built for it, same can be said about motors with superchargers or big blocks, like previously stated.

So guys, stop picking on civics, they have enough embarassment they have to deal with
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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Its just so friggen stupid when people pull that crap, "well take away your whatever and then we'll race." screw that, it just goes back to the tried and true saying, "run whatchya brung" steet racing (well, racing in general) is not about being equal, its about running whatever you've got and having fun. if people want to say get rid of the nitrous, what are they going to tell me, get rid of your aftermarket heads? I mean come on, its just stupid, if you lose, deal with it, learn from it, and come back later with something bigger and better. or shutup and go away and buy a civic so we can laugh at you. its funny being 18 and having friends with that mentality. in Lake Jackson we all meet at a Hobby Lobby parking lot on saturday nights to just hang out and BS. it was so damn funny the other night because there were about 15 of us just sitting around, mostly camaros and mustangs, and what do we see across the parking lot but about 10 riced out civics, eclipses, and....get this, a Daewoo! its the funniest thing in the world. and everytime they would drive past, it never failed that atleast one of them would rev their little fart can/hamster wheel engine up and go buzzing past. we just laughed everytime.
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