Don't underestimate the 305 guys. I have an '88 S10 with a 305. I played with the LS1s and the LT1s were a joke. And my 305 wasn't heavily modded either! It had a .488 lift cam and a ported Torker II intake. Yes I do have a weight advantage, I mean 2,600 pounds. Oh well!!! And all you TBI guys...one word...CARBURETED!!!!! or go to the GM MiniRam. TBI is a joke. They should have left it on the trucks. And if you are in the Dallas area. I know of an idiot with a 350, 4-bolt main for sale for $25.00. Let me know if you're intested.

 

 

Uh humm. I believe you.

 

That meter is great, and for the stoner above: S10's weigh 3200 lbs with a v6

 

damn, i forgot my shovel...its knee deep in here....

 

wow, dam i need a steam shovel for this one... that meter is cool, i want one... i could use it up here in college, kids tellin me there civics have 300+hp in them... i wana see this big block in this stock civic....hes got it all decked out with wings and what not... anyway... yea ok ur truck is cool, show me clip of u beatin ls1's, and ill belive you....

 

and i forgot to ask, track times please??

 

That's pretty funny, considering Texas is where most of the fast F bodies are. But since you posted it, I'm sure it's true.

 

Lmao. You play with Ls1's in a 305 S10? In the DFW area? I really hope youre sitting back reading these responses and laughing at your joke, because if your not, I am sure there are plenty of F-bodies in your immediate area, ready to hand you your *** on a silver platter. Hell, I'll race your 305 S10 out here in Lubbock if you want to see some good old fashioned L98 power

 

. Maybe LT1s, but not LS1s.

Only 2600#s does help a lot though. Gotta figure that is like 1 second faster than a stock 305 3rd Gen. What kind of gears do you have.

 

hey man love the b.s meter made my day.. s-10 with a 305 smoking everything in site..wow who would have thunk!!!lol

 

umm can i have some more info and a pic of this s10?

kolby

 

Ok guys, now many of you or sitting here thinging.....ok, this guys is total ......and i would normally believe you, but iroc is one of my very good friends....and i know that his can does take LT1's, much like takeing candy from a ****ing baby stuck in his moms stroller.....and as for LS1's....again as much as it sounds full of it....its not a lie....ive seen it(i dont like it because his ****ing *** can rape my car as well....though mines not modded cause of severe lack of money) but its ****in true....and i have been with him or a truck weigh-in station and his car sits ah 2600 lbs with no one in it.....ive looked at the meters....ok now you guys can sit there and laugh and make funny faces trying to hold in your own ****....but he openly invites you in the DFW area to come on down....in his words"bring it".....*don's my flame retardent suit*.....ok boys, lets start the grill....

 

Maybe you would have gotten more favorable responses if you said you had a 350...............

 

oh man, only if i lived down in that area, i'd shut his cocky *** up REAL quick..

 

fly... ill go down with u so u can shut this f**ker up, not u sho,.... please... are u sure its a lt1 and not a v-6... because older 4th gens 6cyl are not as powerfull as the newer "ls-1 style" cars (98-02) all look the same... and there 6 is a powerful 6 in the newer ones... and will be able to keep up with a 305 tpi.... so maybe hes racing 6cyl 4th gens....thats all i can think of...oh well

 

i agree, a mild 305 in a s-10 is probably 14 second material, LT1's maybeeeeeeee, LS1's no way. he is racing v6's.

 

Say what? My friend had an S10 with a 305, HO metering rods, an L82 cam, some head work, and a corvette servo. I'd say it ran low 15's ..maybe high 14's. Quick, but hardly LS1 capable.

 

IROC S-10, TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS $25 350, CAN U GET ME AN E-MAIL OR PIC OR SOMETHIN, ID BE VERY GRATEFUL, thanks

 

u guys are so gullible iroc is just pulling ur chain. just so u guys will flame is white ***. he is also probably on crack and im not saying he is lying he is just telling stories. i say stories cuz to him he thinks he is beating ls1s and soon he will be rippin on the ls6s rite.... iroc. so i say flame his *** gotta go dream land is awaiting

 

hmmm, he hasn't returned to post in this thread, there's a surprise

 

The 350 is a bare 4-bolt main block. It's in good shape. I have a spare 350 crank also if you need it. The crank needs to be cleaned with some emery paper but otherwise it's perfect. And as I said the block is bare but it's in good shape. And as for all you **** talkers, believe what you want. If you don't believe me, my brother is getting the same setup I had and we openly invite you to come on down and show off your stuff. Oh yeah, I know a f*cking v6 Camaro when I see one. And Lubbock L98 power boy, bring your TPI 350 on. I love the Tuned Ports, but face it, there slow. And GTA/TTA guy, I got something in your league. It's an 89 TTA with some "mild" modifications. So if you're ever in Dallas look me up. I can be found at Straightline Performance(10470 Plano Rd. Dallas, Tx 75243). The Ball Is In Your Court.

 

ok i have read it all now. i have my s10 ready to go... I have seen iroc out and about. but you wanna race! lets go bring a pocket full of cash or pink slips. I love to give away cars that are slow to old ladies after i win pink slips... you want times here you go these times are on all motor no spray. you can guess what it runs on the fogger system


8.18
171 mph
1.48 60ft

truck weighs 2149 with me in it.. 165lbs on weight station scales
truck has roll cage and everything has been gutted out but 2 bucket seats and alum dash has current reg and inspection sticker
and mt et streets. i have yet to see a ls1 or lt1 run these times. i held track record for 1/8 mile in sanger tx for 3 months at 4.90 sec. bring on the slow lt1/ls1 v10 or what ever... If you are from dallas then you prob have seen it out a the street races. white s10 with basketcase on side of it. Known to smoke bikes...... just ask any old street racer they will say the same. it is 1fsts10

so shut up or bring it here to run. but quit talking **** bout people or there cars you have never seen. i respect cars that run 4 sec to 19 sec 1/4. as long as your out having fun and working on it to go faster then it is all good. not everyone can spend 30 g's on a motor. so i say if it runs fast or slow race with pride and honor by doing your best and help others not make fun of them



if pic don't show goto http://www.geocities.com/desperado81us/s10.html

 

By the way, 1fsts10 is one of my boys. And I couldn't have put it better myself!!! I love my truck just like all of you love your cars. And I'm just out to have fun and go fast, just like you! Pics will soon be available as will the 408 I'm currently building, the 305 finally let go(at about 6800 rpms). Oh well, $hit happens. But seriously, drop all the $hit talking, you wasting your "breath". I know what my truck did, as do all of my friends and the whole Straightline Crew. So believe what you want. If you have any doubts, as I said before... come on down!

 

oh so now its another vehicle u'd race me with i wouldn't waste my time to drive to TX...

So what's done to this "wonder" 305?

 

you talking to me or iroc. my truck has no 305. it is way bigger than that. read my post if you don't run in the 8's don't even talk **** to me. irocs truck is fast it won't out run a lt or ls on highway it was never intended to. it weighs nothing and has a v8 no weight+v8 = fast in any book. it is geared for light to light action. me on the other hand have a quick change rear in mine and i will be glad to put 5.? or 2.? gears in it and run anyway you wanna go. stop roll or highway. like i said before i like to have fun and **** talkers are just that. i put a lot of time and money in mine was built over a 8 year span. it started as a 16 sec beater to now an low 8 sec screamer. i would not have been possible without other people spending time and giving advise. no matter how fast you are someone is faster. i have gotten my *** handed to me at the track many times and nobody laughed. we talked and i got pointers to help me out. you should talk to us we might have ideas that will help you out as well. thats what this is all about a brother hood of the fast and faster.

 

Nobody believes **** anymore. I think he's telling the truth. a 2600lb truck that could hook good with even 300 hp would be in the 12's depending on gears and such. You guys are talking like something fairly easy to do is impossible. A 305 can't be fast!!! Pull your heads out of your asses, because that truck could probibly beat most of your cars, mine included. and with a 408, he will smoke even modded ls6's.

IROC, don't be offended, some of the people on this site are very helpful, but others are narrow minded and childish.

"Flame suit is now on"

 

i was talking to iroc, not you 1fsts10


as far as not believing him look at the guys original thread, looks like it was started to start a flame war, of course i still don't see track times from him...

1fsts10 sounds like you have a sweet truck.

 

92superram thanks for the understanding on iroc's part and my part. i as well as all of you have seen lt and ls motors run like crap. people slap wrong parts and slow it down. If you guys read the s10 is one of the easiest things to make fast. i love camaro, firebird and the ls and lt engines. all cars are cool. i have been lucky to have a steady job and a understanding wife to let my truck blossem to what it is today. not a true street but not a full drag somewhere in between. Instead of laughing at us, ask us how we get something light in the *** to stick to the ground. our suspension tricks will work for any car and you have more weight so the improvement is even better for you. ask what is done to motor? just because it is carbed and not injected doesn't make a different. all the motor tricks are still the same as far as what will help it breathe. just because we have different cars doesn't make us bad. we have knowledge on motors and suspension. Just because it is not state of the art doesn't mean anything. My motor tricks helped a guy in a 5.0 mustang to run mid 12's with minor bolt ons and some suspension tricks with 235hp to the gound. just remember the race is won or lost in the first 60'. i don't care how fast the car is if you can't launch you have to make up ground down the road and if the car you are racing leaves good and runs good you wont have enough room to catch them. to prove my point race a toyota carolla from a dead stop in the rain. i bet money the carolla will win. my wifes car beat my truck on damp roads and even some dry ones where i had a traction problem. Just ask us we just might be able to help thanks and will quit preaching.

 

So, what are some of the suspension tricks you guys use? I have only been able to cut a 2.1 60' so far.

 

do you guys have leaf springs on the rear?

if so add in a small shim to the driver side springs to help load the right rear tires. set the pinion angle twards the ground around 4 degrees. play with the degree to get best traction not always 4 degrees. the pinion allows it to come up more to help reduce shock to rear end. for drag racing only remove the sway bar up front. never drive on street without it. use a racing adjustable shocks to adjust softer in rear to allow squating. the shim between the springs and adjusting the pinion angle helps a ton. you won't need traction bars if you do that. i pull the tires up about a foot at the track with no traction bars just leaf spring rear suspension. I use air shocks to keep from bottoming out the tires. if you run radial type tires never lower the air pressure in them. it causes cupping in the center and takes about 3/4 of the contact patch away. add a few extra pounds of air in front tires to lower rolling resistance on the front tires. with drum brakes in the rear you can slightly back off the adjusters to keep the pads from pressing on the drums to get a zero drag effect(4 wheel disk guys can only dream of this). front end alignment is critical you can have them set for 0 toe and further lower rolling resistance. a gainded almost a tenth because mine was way out. anything to add weight in the right rear helps(battery or fuel cell) and any weight you can reduce up front is always a plus. every 100lbs removed is a free .10 in quarter. If racing on the street (nobody ever does this right) then try leaving at a slightly lower rpm (practice as not to bog but you don't wanna spin) and feather it out of the hole. If you get a good launch chances are they will just give up or spin real bad trying to catch you. Drive Shaft Loop get one........ DRIVE SHAFT LOOP get one...all i can think of off the top of my head let me know what you have (rear end, leaf spring, irs what ever and i will try to help even more.

IF YOU ARE SPINNING YOU AIN'T WINNING. traction the slow mans friend

 

no leaf springs for us...

 

it probably would be a good race to see u (iroc s10) and my friends i think its a 91 s10 with a built 406 sbc, he's only had a few problems with the dipstick and he spun a bearing the first time he brought it to skool.

 

IrocS10, would he be willing to ship that block and how much would it be? Can u give me his e-mail? Thanks

 

not to be rude or anything like that but i did see a 305 in an S10 run mid 12s but i mean BUT...... it had some serious *** work done to it..........now a friend of mine has a 350 in a S10..i have a 91 RS TBI 305 i walked dog on his *** who knows until i see some timeslips im not saying anything else




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1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS TBI 305
-GM 305 crate motor
-MSD 6A
-Accel Cap&Rotor Button
-Accel Super Coil
-30 series Flowmaster Catback Exhaust
-3.42 open rear from a 1985 2.8 V6 Camaro
-Edlebrock Air Cleaner
-K&N Air Filter
-Moroso Breather Filter
-Hypertech Street Runner Chip
-160 Thermostat

best ET to date 15.53@87 mph 2.09 60 foot

 

This is going to be a see to believe. Yeah, a 408 in an almost full drag S10 can run some kickass times.

But an unworked 305?

Either there is a lot more done to this motor than the cam and carb, or there is some bull**** coming out.

You guys can decide which.

 

For the record... the 305 was merely a well tuned, big cammed, otherwise completely stock junkyard motor. It had a .488 lift cam with 292 int. and 296 exh duration with completely stock 305 truck heads. It had a 780 cfm Holley carb and Hedman Hedders with 3 inch Flowmasters. It was backed by a TH350 trans built by Art Carr and a factory 10 bolt with a 3.42:1 geared Auburn posi and a mini-spool. The truck weighed in at 2608 lbs. without me in it. I am currently prepping a 408 to reside in place of the 305. The truck was merely a well done setup and therefore decently fasy. It ran an 8.16 in the 1/8th mile. I estimate it was making around 245 rear wheel horsepower. Nevertheless it was fun. Now it's just going to be insane.

 

"10 bolt with a 3.42:1 geared Auburn posi and a mini-spool. "
wtf is that... u have posi and a mini spool?... umm, maybe cause i have 6 shots in me, or does that sound like bs... im gunna wave the famous cause u should have that rased above ur house... i think u are talkin sh*t and *** i cant stand that, y dont u just get a civic, put on a big wing, and call it a day...

 

have you gone to a 1/4 mile track yet? 8.16 in the 1/8 is mid 12's give or take at a 1/4 mile strip..

 

I'd like to know what year the heads are from. Do you have a casting number by chance?

 

What did you do........pick up the nearest Chevy hi performance and quote specs from other people's rides???? The reason I say that is why would you possibly even accidently type "auburn posi" and "mini-spool" in the same sentence?? I'm not trying to be a dick and or start ****, but it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you thread all the post's together. And 305's in a light S10 truck still isn't THAT fast unless its TRULY light. And it takes a LOT to get down to 2,600 in an S10. I know of MANY 305 powered S-10's in Tucson, and even the fastest of them can't hang with my slowest car (the RS). Tell us what you did to make it 2,600 pounds, then we'll believe. ****, if its that easy to make an S10 2,600 pounds maybe I'll look for one of those instead of a chevette to transfer my caddy into I'm tired of battling with the 12 second crowd..........planning on stuffing my caddy into a Chevette someday and play with death! heh. BTW if your story isn't BS disregard the first line of my post and keep on rodding.

 

I'm not gonna say whether I believe these dudes or not, I just wanna say ROTFL at that!!

 

well guys since i saw on the post believe us guys (i assume you mean me) lets cut the the crap here. first off if you run 12's you will get beat by a import with a wing and weedeater exaust. 12 sec come on spend some money on that car. second of all. doubt my times. first off to take weight out of a s10. gas tank and replace with 5 gal fuel cell. the entire dash replace with 1 piece alum, ac, heater, blower motor, seat, carpet, door pannels, shave the core support, remove mis bracing ie. spare tire mount gas tank mounts, lighter rims, carbon drive shaft, tube tranny crossmember, inner fender wells, tube k member and back half work. bingo 2200+ lbs. second of all over 800+ hp on motor to the wheels with morrison block, yates heads, shaft rocker set, massive bores with sleeves, custom crank, dome pistons, 18 degree angle mill on heads 54cc combustion chambers = 8.10 - 8.15 @ 176 with some wheel spin. hmmm sounds like a really big motor in a really light truck = l anything beater. i have tried to be nice and ignore all the bs flying around and **** talking. but lets get real here. a 305 tuned right in a truck it was never intended for with the right gear and stall can and will run good. some of us work hard on fixing what we have cause our mommy and daddy don't fund our stuff. So all i have to say is 12 sec = slow = you and your turd gen site. so quit talking trash cause a road trip is in order. you need to bring you 12 -59 sec cars and a pocket full of money( at least 500 a run) so we can race all night. you tell me when and where so i can drive down and personally shut all the bs down flying on this board. and you will race if you are there no ***** looking just racing.

 

May I ask what...if anything this post has to do with thirdgen (or any gen.) fbodies?

Lets keep this one going guys

 

let me guess, you drive it every day too right? you think you're big ****? head of to the turbo buick boards, some there will make your 8 second timeslip comical.

Point is you have a nice truck but you're comparing a TRACK ONLY vehicle to a daily driver/street car, real intelligent

 

i do drive it. drove it 115 mile round trip this weekend. all the lights and blinkers work. just have to stop often for gas. has current inspection and reg. passed with flying colors on the dyno test. Even has a stero so i can jam while i drive. I hang out with a few guys from the turbo buick board. matter of fact i hung out with kenny d this weekend. he has the fastest turbo buick around. so what if they are faster. i enjoy racing and they have 8 sec time slips and drive them around town. what that tells me is your **** is slow. cause if a 8sec v6 can drive on the streets then you and your slow *** lt and ls's should be doing 2 sec 1/4 mile. i was being cool to all of you guys and a few want to start ****. grow up and get a life and quit talking and get a fast car and race. as for the others, sorry that a few people and their **** talking has made the bad for the rest. as for those who have not said anything good luck with your cars and hope you get to keep having fun doing what we love to do.

 

whoah #1 i didn't start talking **** on YOU till you got this chip on your shoulder, i complimented your truck earlier up in this thread

Remember man, there will ALWAYS be someone faster than you, so ditch the chip on your shoulder, you have a bad *** truck, no doubt but i've seen faster, as have you i'm sure

I'll be happy staying in the 12's, my car is my daily driver, i don't have a little beater to drive around, nor do i have any intentions of going faster than high 11's when i'm done, i don't need to go that fast on the street...

 

Holy CRAP! How many times did you have to stop for gas in an 8 second S10?! DIdn't you say you only have a 5 gallon tank? Or fuel cell, what's the difference? I don't know. So you probably get like what, 6 or 7 mpg because you said your engine is WAY bigger than a 305. So thats like 30 to 35 miles every fill up at the most? I bet that would be annoying. How come you said you wanted to race for pink slips? Where I live, slips for the car are not pink. Do you mean race for the title? I'm glad you have a very fast S10. I used to have an 87. WHat year is yours? Do you got any pictures?
How do you keep traction with that much power? Seems to me you would be spinning everywhere you go which means LOTS AND LOTS OF TIRES! Does your truck have a power adder? I know that the Turbo buick guys do so why are you comparing a turbo'd V6 to a N/A V8? You know if you slap a turbo on a bigger engine it makes more power so why are you busting on LT1/4 and LS1/6's? I mean you have a bigger engine than them and there are some beating you. You keep saying how Lt's and Ls's are slow but since you said that your engine is so much bigger than a 305, I'd imagine that it's bigger than the Lt's and Ls's right? So why aren't you running 2 second 1/4's or faster? You almost sound like a ***** to me. "Well we get more horsepower per liter" or "We weigh less so we will win". The point is what fly89gta said. There is always somebody faster and if you check the power adder board, there are more than a few people who will wupp you. I'm sorry a bunch of people were flaming you but usually people are pretty cool on this board. And there is no reason to be having the attitude because remember that you came on a Thirdgen website. Be prepared for people to not believe what they first read. Why don't you go to a mustang website and see how happy they are to see you. You'll get the same thing. Congrad's on your run. Eric

 

i don't have a chip, and i do thank you for the complaments. i am just tired of seeing people bag on others cause they can't seem to figure out that it might be fast. irocs10 has had alot of people telling him he is crazy for thinking a 305 could be fast. well you guys have proved that you feel the same about your cars by the posts i got when i talked about you motors. you strongly defend the motors you have. Personally i like all engine from the little 4 bangers turning over 400 hp to a mild ls or lt that delivers great performance and long lasting. I never claim to be the fastest. my 8 sec slips put me about 6th place with the guys i hang out with. I like all cars and i belong to many boards that include chevy, ford, mopar and others. i learn alot and get many ideas from others. I consider myself a good friend and do get defensive when others pick on my friends. I do say i am sorry for having a tude twards you guys. i get the most out of driving my car but the most important thing is to help others achieve their goals. I am always up to help if they bring beer. i love motor parties where everyone gets together and twist wrenches. I would love to help you guys if in dallas area. no hard feelings just i was sticking up for a friend. as far as gas fill up i carry two 6 gal fuel jugs. gas mileage is really not as bad as you think. but yes the stopping all the time does get frustrating. that is why it stays in the city streets and rarely gets on the highway. traction comes by adjusting pinion angle and getting the shocks to squat enough to ease the hit on the tires. yes i do have a power adder. fogger system on the truck. the fogger only in use with slicks on the track. it is to stupid to try and get drag strip times on city streets. not safe and i plan on having my baby for many years. sorry for the attatude. and hope to be friends will all of you guys. Thanks again

 

If u look to see how this thread was started he came off like a dick, just saying he eats LT1's blah blah blah, now if he wouldve described a specific race i'm sure his reception would've been warmer

Let's all just get along damn it!!!!!!!!1