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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
why should this thread be closed? because you dont like it? go someplace else then.

you obviously dont understand whats going on here, try reading all the posts first
The way I read your first post, you are saying import drivers are dishonest about winning and loosing simply because they drive an import. Sounds like you are bashing an entire group of car enthusiasts for no reason. Somewhat against the policies of this website, but whatever. This dosnt even have any street racing content. There are alot of reasons this should have been closed.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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AMEN TO THAT, r**ers are full of and wont tell a true story unless its about them beating someone!!
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
i see this all summer long....i run alot of hardcore v8 stuff around town, and at the track....the number of imports, or 4bangers that impresses me is far, far, far smaller. at the track id say that 1 out of 30-40 imports isnt a **** mobile....and 1 out of 10 of those is quick. its not that it cant be done, its just not as prevalent as people like to think it is.

I agree for the most part on that


but then again look at the difference on ppl also


most of the ppl who get the import is someone who doesn't know anything about cars.

they just think the car is mad tyte yo and worry more abotu show then go :-(
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
this comment perfectly illustrates what i mean....

you have to look to find them, with the fast domestic v8 crowd, you dont have to look. just drive around for an hour or so (in the summer time) your sure to see 10 cars that are 12 sec or faster just cruising around.

im not ripping on you rx7, im just trying to illustrate a point
it would take me time to find cars domestic or import online

being I have so many other things to do when I get onlnie and sinceI don't have a computer of my own.... well mhy time is limited
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
Yup. Musclecars and Sportscars still and are always gonna be the cars for performance and speed. Oh please with this imports are beating TBI's and Auto LB9's. If so they're not stock or the Third Gen isn't in that good of condition, and maintained LB9 5-Speeds and L98's have no reason to even have a doubt about beating 1 at all. They're not pulling 9 G's stock either and getting over 1 G easily. Like 383 said we have performance cars and they don't. Our cars can do things theirs can't and we can make it even better if we feel like it and for alot less money because the cars are made for it. The number of fast musclecars of any year or kind compared to imports is INCREDIBLY different. Stop listening to the BS and see what REALLY goes on at the track and on the streets. How any1 thats looking for some kind of performance can even want to be seen in 1 of those things and not a real car is beyond me. Seriously.
that comment of mine was made due to a over simplified comment made by someone else

a TBI isn't the fastest car around is it?
a stock one is around high 15's low 16's correct? if not please let me know.
a lb9 and l98 I would not even question beating a civic stock for stock hands down

but I do find it funny you didn't even stick up or say a thing about the lb8 or lh0


and as far as imports you are summing them all up into one group again

that would be like me going around talking about a stock cav or sunfire... hell even a stock neon and saying why would anyone want to be stuck in a domestic like that.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by devianb
I think the other import guys with the lower end models under 30k, probably just don't mention any defeats, but mention every conquest they had.


They probably talk about beating 2.8 f-bodies like mine thinking they beat a V8 so they feel proud about themselves, at least that's my take.


383backinblack, there is probably some truth to your theory.
hey I have no problem talking about my defeats

and I know when I beat a2.8....... not even worth talking about unless the guy was a stuck up pig....
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
see they have street night up at NED twice a week all summer long....and the r*ce mobiles get smoked constantly.....they have a weekly points series (not gonna see any imports in that) and they have an import shootout where nothing with more than 6 cyl is allowed.

now what i wanna see, is an import/domestic shootout with brackets, classes whatever, to call out the supposed real import guys and then we can see what the deal is. maybe we can talk someone up there into organizing that.
I wihs I could see something like that here


this way it would shut a lot of the LS1 beating 0-100 in 3 second honda DX guys up around here
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
dude those new 572ci crate motors are a force to reckoned with....although i havent seen a price yet, i imagine they are gonna be astronomical there are 2 versions, one is pump gas friendly and is a little over 600hp i believe....the other version is like 13:1 compression and makes over 700hp, but obviously needs some good fuel to make that power
too keep it simple and sweet here



I think I want to ..we...w...w....weeee....wettttm yss elf

only thing though too big for what I want


way way too mutch weight
me likes da turns

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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian


But anyway, you wanna talk about living in reality? The reality of the situation is this: Any situation you can concieve of in the import scene also happens in the domestic scene. Yes stupid people mod slow cars thinking they are fast. Yest stupid people run their mouth about stuff they dont know and make fools out of themselves. Thats just how the car scene is. There are people who are real, and there are people who are not. It dosnt matter what they drive.

amen to that


I hear of just as many stupid domestic ppl as import ppl


granted it's a lot easier to shut the domestic ppl up then the import guys...... but hey both sides have there idiots

that is why I quit thinking import vs domestic... and I instead think nice vs ****
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
your missing the points dude.....if you read some of the posts,
we are talking about the people that perpetuate the myth that as a general rule imports of the fast nature, exist in the same proportion as fast domestics. its simply not the case. the numbers are way over exagerated, and it gets proved 3 times a week at New England dragway.

man i love that place:lala:
you can't say that just by one place though that means it takes into account the same ratio everywhere else

I will agree with you though still that for the most part there are more faster domestics then imports as a whole..... but I'
m sure that is not everywhere
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Oh I see. So we can somehow conclude that because domestics are faster where you live, it must be like that all over the WORLD. Yeah ok!!

Its impossible to find a true answer to your question. There is no way you could account for EVERY import/domestic in the WORLD and then verify their 1/4 times and somehow come out with a conclusion of which platform (domestic or import) has more faster cars. Its just impossible. If you want to talk probability, then I would say it is more probable that there will be more 'fast' domestic cars because they come from the factory somewhat fast.

damn it you already said that

but someone else just brought up another point to me


just b/c of what you see at the drag strip doesn't mean that the ppl who do drive fast cars actually bring them to the track

I know I will hardly bring my car to the track if I get it setup for the way I want it...
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by IROC-Z5.7TPI
AMEN TO THAT, r**ers are full of and wont tell a true story unless its about them beating someone!!

ricers yes


but someone who drives an import doesn't mean he is a *****

and rember a domestic can be a ***** also
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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LMAO


ri(cer is a blocked word

but anyway sorry about my last 10 post

so much easier to make multiple post then to take every post in at once


but I'm running out of time here

so if anyone want to talk to me about what I feel is the difference between import and **** or just cars in general

feel free to get ahold of me through PM (see that little button on the bottom) email
rxspeed87@hotmail.com
or call me 2008-713-3017
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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Ive heard good things about DSMs the DSM will be driven alot more than my camaro will. I have some plans for the camaro this summer so it wont be streetable when it starts snowing. Im sure a AWD DSM will do good in snow as long as you drive it normal.

Plus im sure it does good on gas with a 5 speed.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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yes rx7 thats what im talking about.....not perhaps in every area of the world will you find more fast domestics than imports....

but overall, everyplace in the country combined as an average there will be more fast domestics which i think you touched on...

but the r*ce problem is that people listen to it, and thereby perpetuate the fast and the ficticious problem that makes people believe that bodykited out hondas run 9's all day long.

i think people should start pushing for the import/domestic bracket shootout idea up at NED that would f*ckin great.

:rockon:

oh ya, if you want a 572 like that for road racing, get an alum block with alum heads and rods....probably weight about 400lbs max hehehe
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by rx7speed
I agree for the most part on that


but then again look at the difference on ppl also


most of the ppl who get the import is someone who doesn't know anything about cars.

they just think the car is mad tyte yo and worry more abotu show then go :-(

Exactly. For those misguided youngins' its more about looking cool and the stuff you mostly see is thier perception cool. I bet in a few years or so they will get tired of it. It seems that all the talk and fuss is about Japanese imports and European imports are usually left out.


When you think about it, Japanese imports are kind of domestics because Japan gets the steel to make thier cars from U.S. Since Japan is comprised of islands and land is scarce, they can't produce thier own steel and iron. They have to have it shipped in scraps and re-melted and molded to form new steel.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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Well I've noticed that it depnds on the individual as well. I raced a mustang and the guy came back after I annilated him and said he beat me. So since then I have made the policy to race for money.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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RX7Speed you post *****!!!! thats 11 posts in a row!! LOL thats great.someone most have been posting at 3 in the morn.....

oh yeah and TBI305,AWD DSM's are EXCELLENT in the snow.it could be the funnest car you could ever drive in the white stuff.drifting galore!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by maroon91rs
RX7Speed you post *****!!!! thats 11 posts in a row!! LOL thats great.someone most have been posting at 3 in the morn.....

oh yeah and TBI305,AWD DSM's are EXCELLENT in the snow.it could be the funnest car you could ever drive in the white stuff.drifting galore!!!

me post *****


you should see some of my post

I think my record is 23 or so in a row
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
yes rx7 thats what im talking about.....not perhaps in every area of the world will you find more fast domestics than imports....

but overall, everyplace in the country combined as an average there will be more fast domestics which i think you touched on...

but the r*ce problem is that people listen to it, and thereby perpetuate the fast and the ficticious problem that makes people believe that bodykited out hondas run 9's all day long.

i think people should start pushing for the import/domestic bracket shootout idea up at NED that would f*ckin great.

:rockon:

oh ya, if you want a 572 like that for road racing, get an alum block with alum heads and rods....probably weight about 400lbs max hehehe
max weight is not the only problem
weight distro is another....
that thing is HUGE
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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so move it further back
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Well we are dropping it in a 34 convertible kit car. The last thing we are worried about is weight. The engine is apparently not available yet. Darn Lisa science queen.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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rx7, if you put a 572 in the middle of an rx7 i would come to wherever you are and check it out lol. that would be about as real as it gets. :rockon:

it will be equally as cool in that kit car.....its not available now but its supposed to be very soon.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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so move it further back
would also need to lower it for my taste

which means dry sump


too much work unless I'm going full out race car
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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rx7, if you put a 572 in the middle of an rx7 i would come to wherever you are and check it out lol. that would be about as real as it gets. :rockon:

it will be equally as cool in that kit car.....its not available now but its supposed to be very soon.
if I put a 572 in my car I would **** myself just walking out to the car day by day


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plastic chair on the pass side with a rubber floor mat
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