I got my info from the parts manual at Checkered Flag Honda in Norfolk, VA. Where did you get your info?

 

The Honda number is known to be off, I'm in S2KI and some people have weighed there cars, and they weigh actually less then 2800, between one was 2745 with 1/2 tank of gas. If you doubt this go over to www.s2ki.com and see for yourself.

 

Yea, S2000s are VERY light cars... go karts when compared to the weight of an F-body. They are something like 2700-2800 lbs. I read that in R&T and some other big name magazine that did a comparison a while back between a Porsche Boxster, S2000 and M Roadster.

 

a stock S2000 running mid 13s is
My friend's got one, runs consistent low 14s, broke into the 13s when he did a run with drag radials. his car is bone stock cause he competes in AutoX in the factory stock class, which is where most of his victories take place, as opposed to drag racing. S2000s suck for drag racing.

 

Well, here is my freind parents DEAD stock S2000 running a 13.87@101+ in 80 degree weather. stock S2000 running 13.87 With colder weather a 13.6 is possible.

 

whoever drove it must be one of hell of a driver then. 13.6 in cold weather doubtful, he won't get traction for ****. Is it possible his bone stock S2000 had some nittos on the rear?

 

No, stock tires and the car had only a few thousand miles on it. He couldn't hook that day at all really, track was pretty slick. My best that night was a 14.0 with my Mustang. My friend was driving it (S2000), and he is a good driver for sure. Especially since he is only 21.

 

yo i dont care how fast ur car is. it looks nice as hell, good job bro. i would go after ya.

 

A stock GT what ....... I don't freakin think so

I have driven MANY GT's they got power in 1st and 2 nd then BAWWWG totally useless That S2000 would KILLL a gt crustang

not trying to say anything about my car being fancy ( man what a big WIP ) but ........ don't crap me about mustangs in stock trim

 

hahaha...is that a joke? They have a US Spec 3.2l V-6 putting out 290hp (NSX), 3.2l V6 Acura TL-S and CL-S 260hp. I dont think any ALL MOTOR GM (US)cars do too well against them. Let's see, there is the Chevy Lumina, Ford Taurus, Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Grand Prix GT...they all suck ***. However, I will understand your argument of Acura's high price tags for there cars. If I was spending 30+ on a car I wouldn't buy a luxury sedan that only pulls high 14's-low 15's.

 

Oh, so you are the new Mustang expert? I am glad I know now! So I guess every car that feels slow is slow, than LS1s must be crap because they sure don't "feel" very fast, but I bet you have driven many of those too right! When you get those winter upgrades on your "305" then you can tell us what "feels" fast, okay!

 

you're a tard, the NSX runs high 13s stock, they are terrible cars, even supercharging them doesn't get them much lower than high 12s. There was a cocky **** in my car club with a blown NSX, thought he was the **** until he got gang raped by every LS1 with a whisper lid and catback. the 260 HP CL-S and TL-S would get stomped by stock 305 IROC 5-speeds, they aren't anything special either, you know why, cause they have no torque. LS1s, Z06s, and Cobras would all tear an NSX apart, and a Viper, which is the same price, would give an NSX such a humiliating defeat that the owner would probably never show his face at the track he raced it at again. S2000 is 5.0 fodder especially if the driver isn't bang shifting at the 9000 rpm redline every time.

 

I gotta say, it's really fun listening to you guys getting all pissed off at idiots who compare NSX's to Tauruses, or claiming to reach 13's in S2000's, etc. If you really want to race, you start with a V8 up front, put the drive wheels in the back, put in a cam, bore it out, etc. and play. My car is only a beefed-up 305, but I laugh at 4's and 6's, especially front-wheel-drive. My favorite races are 'stangs vs Camaros, because they started even pretty much. Anything under 300hp isn't even worth the time, unless you want to race my work van. But please, keep arguing. This is better than the comics page.

 

No claim, FACTS. The video and the timeslip. Stock S2000 go to site in my sig for more info and pics of the car if you want. A stock S2000 will EASILY take a 3rd gen especially a 305. How many 305 stock trap over 100 mph??

 

Uh..you drive a 305 and say this?? Sounds like you were riding in a V6 Stang. But then again.. a new V6 would give you a run...

 

a stock S2000 would be hard pressed to take an L98...

 

A stock S2000 and an L98 would be a very good run, but a stock L98 will outrun most 305s. So therefore a stock S2000 will also, correct?

 

Buddy, Iknow 100% that an NSX cant keep up with the cars you listed (Oh, and please dont list a 1980's peice of rust in the same sentence as a 70000+ dollar car). However it is an exotic and exotics are in a whole other ballpark compared to the cars you listed, minus the viper. My point in the post was that GM's V-6 autos dont compare to Hondas. (IM talking NA engines only) It was a reply to a post made above and Im not trying to start a flame war here so lets just let it be. I also dont want to jack the thread,

 

zeroto60v8 is right, ive got a 2000 z28 and nsx's are horrible performers for the money, i spent a little over 13 grand for my z and ide *** rape an nsx with a price over almost 10 times the price of my z, but in the twisties thats another story. S2000's are even worse, especially their cocky owners, man the first time i whooped one i was shocked, they're all hype, those things are slower than monkeys *****.

 

Actually .....ya I am !!!! I was in a huge debate with myself between f body and mustang before I got this one. I just don't like the feal of a platform used since 1973 ( i like the more positve suspension feal) ...... I HAVE drive many of them .....I lean towords the LX's more but ......... Y a after second they don't do it for me ( I don't know what it is ) but hay ......after I do those ( lil ) winter mods to my car . YA ... actually i HAVE DRIVEN a couple LS1's and LT1's ( can't really tell the difference ) but hay ...........I don't put up a SVT owned avitar up when you probably haveent eeven sat in one ........ ever here of SVO ...... or you just one of those newbies
. Don't let your post count get to your head
why you here on a third gen board anyways ( sux when your own kind will not accept ya huh )

I know what I've been in ....and how fast they go ........ I don't claim to be a viper eater or anything ......just a mousetang exterminator ....... you wanna see a real GT come up here and I'll show you some REAL GT's

 

1. D's89IROCZ get a spell checker/proof reader.
2. Discussions don't need to turn into flame wars. If I see any more of what might be considered flaming, pink text and whatnot, then I'm going to lock this thread.
3. NSXs are not "motor in a box" performance cars like Mustang LXs, in fact I don't think they even should be considered anywhere close to a drag car and why people try to drag race them confuses me. Top end? Maybe...
4. This thread is about S2000s, keep it on topic or I'm going to lock it.

 

First off, if you don't know anything about my Avatar, don't post about it, and judging by what you said you know nothing about it!

Second I have driven many LS1s, LT1s, Cobras (yes SVTs) Lightnings, too many 5.0s to count and many older classics. It may be hard to believe this from a 17 year old, but hey I know ALOT of people with alot of cars!

I have heard of SVOs and actually wanted one to throw a 5.0 in. You are right, I am a newbie here yet have met people from the board, and post count or not have more respect here than you could imagine from a Mustang owner! Don't let the fact that you have seen some fast GTs get to your head either, because I race in a Mustang group and know quite a few NMRA members that you could read about in magazines!

If you are a Mustang exterminator come on up to one of our events, there will be some decently quick stangs from low 14 second AODs to low 8 second Drag Radial cars! Feel free to come to any MHRA, NMRA, or FFW up North!

About S2000s I think they are overpriced for the performance, but for the market they are in they are very nice cars. My moms friend (yes SHE) has one and it just takes too much RPM to get going, I don't see them lasting through the abuse that a Mustang or Fbody can for as long as they can. IMO.

 

my brother's best friend has a 97 z28 and there is a huge difference in how fast my 2000 ls1 feels compared to his lt1. Ls1 feels way faster and all i have is borla and K&N fipk compared to his ss hood with functional intake and magnaflow exhaust so pretty even mods and i would spank him every time, so whoever said you cant tell the difference between an lt1 and an ls1 doesnt know what theyre talking about or is lying, its almost like night and day.

 

Why does 90% of this board think in a strait line. That is not the only performance aspect of a car. What about a 0-100-0, autoX, skidpad,etc. There is more to performance cars than a 1/4 mile drag strip or a highway run (the latter requires 0 driver skill at all...uhhmmmsupra ***** ahumm). You guys say you will *** rape this and *** rape that, most likely so, but in a straight line. You guys should hit up an autoX meet on week instead of the drag strip. You'll meet a lot of cool people and have an awesome time. Then you can see a whole other world of performance. And even watch an s2000 in it's glory. Most of the drivers at an autoX can drive the **** outta them and they are just as fun to watch as an F-body pulling a low 12 run and it lasts for 25 more seconds! My .02

 

wow, you must be deaf, blind, paralyzed and retarded.

if you cant tell the difference by driving an LT1 versus an LS1 there is something seriously wrong with you, and/or you just dont know what your talking about

there is pretty much no comparison there. the newer LS1 cars are nite and day compared to the LT1

 

yes an s2000 is a very good handeling car and would do very well in an auto-x event, but i'm talking about street use here, how often do you auto-x your car on the street, not so often huh? I would guess that uve been in several drag races on the street though, and for the money the s2000 is a horrible performer. Also, a 4th gen f-body, even a 3rd gen isnt a horrible handler either, so your saying you would pay $15,000 more for the s2000 because it handles good? Sorry, but I'll stick with my LS1 and continue to enjoy whooping s2000 ***!

 

exactly!

 

I moved from country- to city-driving. Now that I'm in the city, I prefer pure horse-power, but in the twisting country roads, a roadster with good balance would wipe a high-hp muscle-car up...after helping him out of a five-foot-deep ditch next to the corn fields. If I was back there again, I'd gladly give up my Camaro for a Miata, MGB, S2000, etc.
The point is, they are two different cars, designed for two different types of racing. There is a thrill in both types, but it's a matter of personal opinion as to which is better. I'm of the minority that finds NASCAR boring compared to the GT series.

 

Acceleration can be used anywhere, turning really can't. I rarely need to turn quick on a regular basis (I don't live in a City either) whereas I will have to pull out quick on occasion. Plus this is a STREET RACING board, and I don't know about you, but I have never seen a street race on a winding road!

 

Then you've never been to Europe. I talked with some guy a few weeks ago talking about the races around the mountains in Italy. Who knows if it's common, just thought I'd point it out. Besides if you have to take every corner at 10 for risk of burning the tires due to your drag setup suspension then that's no good either... Different strokes for different folks. Some people like to turn, others only want to turn off at the end of the strip.

 

i like bangin my car around corners as much as the next guy.....but come on people,

street racing lends itself to drag racing for several reasons.

it usually isnt going to happen on the twisties because the long winding roads usually dont have any lights on them where people meet up.

secondly, its alot more dangerous than drag racing is when amatuers and/or idiots are involved.

therefore, we should be thankful that drag racing is the primary street race of choice, because otherwise it would be even more deadly and it would have an even worse image than it already does.

and as for the s2000 out handling a camaro in the twisties, ya it could in theory, but it depends on 2 things...how good the drivers are, and how far they can push before they backout.

If the guy in the s2000 is afraid to go more than 7/10ths and the guy in the camaro is pushing to like 9/10ths that extra handling ability in the s2000 aint gonna help....because how many lateral g's the car can pull in a turn, and how it reacts (under, over, neutral steer) isnt going to come into play unless your driving on the edge......and in all other cases the faster car wins.

and how many times would there be an autocross race on the street in this country? (relative to drag racing) and how many of those times are the cars going to be pushed to the edge. not very many

 

I agree with 383backinblack, I don't have a drag racing set-up at all, and have 17" rims with 245/45 tires, so I am not going 10 around corners. I have never been to Europe so I have never witnessed a street race take place on a windy road. Drag racing is easy to do and you can compare 2 cars easier when it comes to drag racing!

Ask someone thier 1/4 time and they could have a good guess. Ask them their lateral Gs or slolem speed and you may find it funny what they come up with!

 

about s-2000's, i dont like them, would never own one, but i do respect them...they have the most horsepower per liter than any other production car EVER made...trust me, i heard it, didnt beilive it, and did the math...the 3.6 liter exotic italian cars dont compare to 120 horses per liter...and about japan maxing out a NA v-8 ...chevy has a new motor that is NA, in the 200 ci range, and puts out over 600 horses, i think japan would have fun trying to beat that...becuase its the only na motor ive found that beats the s-2000's HP/Liter (which is said to be maxed out in a previos pot)...BTW chevys motor is made for an indy car...i hate most all japanese cars, but i have some respect for s-2000's...and i read in previous posts about 6k sidestepping in an s-2k being called redline?...i beleive these cars redline somewhere around 9,000?? so thats 3k below redline..how many of us are sidestepping our f bodys at or above 2k?...3k below the 5k redline redline?...just bringing up a point

 

actually the mazda rx7 has the s2000 beat for hp/lt thing

but not by much
120/L for s2000 123/L for rx7

 

I think will62085 meant the most horserpower per liter of a naturally aspirated engine. Just trying to clear things up.

 

It doesnt matter who has more horsepower per liter, all that matters is who has more horsepower per car, enough said!!!!!!!

 

ya exactly man,

i cant remember who it was, but someone had it in their sig,

it said, i dont care if you have more HP per litre, i have more horsepower per car.

which is invariably true and very telling in most cases.

cause in the cases of built cars, we usually arent talking about a 3rd gen having 40 more hp than an import,

its usually on the order of 150+ (remember built cars here)

and thats alot to overcome, even with a moderate weight savings.

 

the general rule of thumb is for every 100 lbs taken off the car= a tenth of a second in the 1/4. thats a lot of weight to take off to overcome that extra 150 hp you're talking about. power is much more important than weight as far as i'm concerned.

 

sorry you are correct, i meant most horses/liter of any piston engine...the rotary is a bit of a different story...and that is all factory piston engines, blown, turbo or whatever...the s2000 beats them all, im not saying they are incredibally fast cars, but something to respect, they are head and shouders above the civics and focus's runnin round here...i still wouldnt own one though...i like my camaro

 

i have never raced one but i about got hit head on by one. i was coming home from this catle i took my wife there for dinner and a jousting competition. it was dark and i happened to be on the narrowest back road in germany. he came running up the middle of the road. he didn't budge for sh*t so i swerved hit a curb. had to pay for towing 2 front tires and an alignment damn i was pissed. he never turned around to see if i was okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Just wanted to chime in and say that I had an S2000 for about 3 months, and once you hit about 6000rpm, the car kicks alot harder and really flies. Whiles it's not much for quarter mile compaired to our v8s, that car could handles FAR better than you'd ever guess.

I have a very curvey street where I live, and putting my vette down it is fun, but the S2000 is SOOO much faster in the turns. It handles like the car is on rails.

 

you arent pushing your vette hard enough then, because it will push more g's on the skidpad than the s2000 will, i cant remember the exact numbers but i think the c5's pull about .95g's

 

I'm pushing plenty hard, and it's a C3, not C5. I push until it loses grip, and because of the weight it doesn't handle as nicely as a car as small and nicely tuned as the S2000.

I'm just saying if I had to choose, I'd pick the s2000 for an auto X over my vette. Just have to keep the RPMs in the 7000 range

 

That's a friend sitting in the S2000 with me in the vette

 

oh lol......well that makes a diffence.....ya c3's are not exactly famous for their handling prowess.

 

so we are going to use a built thirdgen vs a stock s2000?


why do you guys always do that


modified domesic vs stock import and say ha the import sux



but a import guy does it to a domestic and now he is ****???

 

with me weight proves to be better


on top of just acceleration, better braking, turning, drivetrain last longer, brakes last longer, stuff like that

 

skidpad numbers aren't the whole store


even if you have lower skid numbers that doesn't mean oh crap the other car is going to handle better then I


there is al ot more to it then just that

 

the c5 corvette has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution, one of the most well designed suspensions on the face of the earth, and a chassi that will outclass just about anything short of a ferrari. So in the case of the vette, i think the skid pad #'s do mean something.

 

well if you do want to go off just numbers alone then for handling (even though they do not tell the whole story) I just want to ask what took corvette so long


it was done 10 years ago for cheaper then what the z06 was costing and put out just as good skidpad and a even better slolam

by stats then check them out before you talk about them