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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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run-in w/ an s-2000!

so i was crusin on an hi-way by me at about 2 in the morning to drop my girl off, and i was telling her about the attention that I pick up with the car (we just started goin out so i was explaining it to her!) and low and behold a black s-2000 pulls up on the drivers side and this 40 some odd year old dude nods his head to go- so he punches it and after about 2 sec. he cuts in front of me! i looked at her-said what the heck, and i floored it-a couple sec later i was smack up his a$$! and i know for a fact he was pushing it! So the s-2000 goes off at an exit, and i dropped her off, when she got out she said "you weren't jokin about the car, huh?!?!"
*** I love this car!!!!!
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I had a "bad" experience with an S2000 once a while back.. I was cruising along, and he pulls up next to me (he had a passenger). This was quite late at night (before midnight, tho).

Anyways, there was traffic a little bit in front of us, and he starts gunning it as we were about neck to neck. I was quite tempted to run him, but why bother..
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good kill, nice looking car!!
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Nice Kill! Too bad you both couldn't have caught a light since it would have been worse for him. S2000's suffer from a lack of ***** down low
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I have noticed that for some reason that S2000 drivers(or some of them) have a need to prove that they got their moneys worth out of the car. The ones I have seen cut in and out of traffic and drive like asses, this is not all of them, but just a few I have observed. I even had one try to race me when I was on the way home from my girlfriends house and it was pouring like no other. Was pretty funny.
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thanks guys!!! 84TransAm-I'm feelin the pic(and saving it too!)
and by the way-how much hp do these cars some w/? I think I heard, what about 245 or something??? I would guess they r better from a start, not driving past 50mph-cause my car has 230hp right now . . .so thats why I was kinda shocked that I caught up to his back bumper-what do u guys think?
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Re: run-in w/ an s-2000!

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so i was crusin on an hi-way by me at about 2 in the morning to drop my girl off, and i was telling her about the attention that I pick up with the car (we just started goin out so i was explaining it to her!) and low and behold a black s-2000 pulls up on the drivers side and this 40 some odd year old dude nods his head to go- so he punches it and after about 2 sec. he cuts in front of me! i looked at her-said what the heck, and i floored it-a couple sec later i was smack up his a$$! and i know for a fact he was pushing it! So the s-2000 goes off at an exit, and i dropped her off, when she got out she said "you weren't jokin about the car, huh?!?!"
*** I love this car!!!!!
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It sounds like he didn't downshift to me. My friend parents S2000 ran a 13.87@102 dead stock. I've driven it and it hauls. As long as you can drive.. they are fast. But..unless you haven't driven one....you wouldn't know. AND....after 90...they will KILL you. I know this for a fact. I messed with one with my GT and he pulled on me after 100...and my car is no slouch either! I can push my buddies 90 IROC L98..and it has a cam, ported heads, etc.
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huh??

Originally posted by 84TransAm
Nice Kill! Too bad you both couldn't have caught a light since it would have been worse for him. S2000's suffer from a lack of ***** down low
Not likely if he launched it right. They get mid to low 5 second 0-60's! Thats bad? They don't have high peak torque, but they do have a nice flat torque curve. The also are geared well. I just dropped at 6000-6500 RPM's and it flat hauled! Bang the gears right at redline and your on your way to a easy high 13 stock. My friend's parents ran that 13.87 with a crappy 2.16 60ft and 80+ degree weather. Some have even gone 13.66 stock.

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They do have potential, but most people do not want to dump the clutch at redline. If you do not dump it in that car, than you might as well get out and push. I personally think they make a decent show car and roadster, but beyond that I would say they really do not have much use.
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this thread happened before and it ended badly....the bottom line is the s2000 is not that fast for the money it costs. You can get it into the high high 13's if you rev the **** out of it, but regardless of how well an engine is engineered, if you beat it like that alot its not going to last very long. 13's are not that fast anyways.
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They were not made for 1/4 mile performance, they were made for handling. And I have driven alot of cars...and that thing handles awesome. The suspension is killer....and the car has the best shifting tranny I've ever driven. I didn't like them either until I drove one...and I changed my view on it, but would I buy one...no. It isn't my kind of car. BUT...it is the best deal in it's class....it's a sports car..not a pony car.
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My friend's parents ran that 13.87 with a crappy 2.16 60ft and 80+ degree weather. Some have even gone 13.66 stock.
13.66 is a little hard to swallow. maybe your friends parents have a freak car or they modded it without telling you. all the S2000s i have seen at the track (and i go almost every week) are in the mid-low 14s.
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The car is 100% bone stock....I can post the time slip if you want. They plan on adding maybe a cold air intake at some point in time since it is a decent gain and isn't too expensive. Have you seen how expensive parts are!!?? Catback exhaust is $800-$1200, header is like $600 or so, etc. But..if you go to S2KI you can see that quite a few have gotten in the high 13's stock..
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Re: huh??

Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
My friend's parents ran that 13.87 with a crappy 2.16 60ft and 80+ degree weather. Some have even gone 13.66 stock.
Not a bad 1/4 time, but like you said it is a crappy 60'

My friend parents S2000 ran a 13.87@102 dead stock. I've driven it and it hauls. As long as you can drive.. they are fast.
Sorry but in the year 2002 any sports car that is less than 5 years old isn't fast if it's pulling a high 13/ low 14 1/4 time. Back in the early 90's right as the LT1's came out and the Fox body ended that was a sweet ET for a stock sports car, but now it's kind of ok. I gotta give it props for being quick but it's not "fast". Anything running mid 13's and up is quick, 12's is awesome and 11 and lower is FAST!. But that's just my opinion on it.

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here's the thing though-some of u guys are making it sound like i raced the dude from 0-60- I WASN'T!!! I raced him from about 55+ thats why i was asking if they are good at higher speeds-
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Re: Re: huh??

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Not a bad 1/4 time, but like you said it is a crappy 60'
Ya..it was a bad day at the track since I was only getting high 2.1's myself and my best time that day was a 14.01 although I'd have to look it up. How many all stock cars get sub 2.0 60ft's? Not many..I'm at the track all the time. Some stock S200's have gotten in the 1.9's stock too.


Sorry but in the year 2002 any sports car that is less than 5 years old isn't fast if it's pulling a high 13/ low 14 1/4 time. Back in the early 90's right as the LT1's came out and the Fox body ended that was a sweet ET for a stock sports car, but now it's kind of ok. I gotta give it props for being quick but it's not "fast". Anything running mid 13's and up is quick, 12's is awesome and 11 and lower is FAST!. But that's just my opinion on it.
1st of all, I race a 11 second stang that traps almost 120mph so I know what a fast car is. BUT..for a car that has a NA 2.0 4cyl cranking out 240HP that is damn impressive...your comparing it to cars that have more than 2 times the engine!How many cars these days are running in the 13's stock that are in that price bracket? Not many, especially since the F-body's are gone. The only other thing that is that fast for the $$ is the Mustang GT, Mach I, Cobra, Neon SRT and the WRX! A stock GT vs. a stock S200 is very close. Any 2.0 that is all motor, can rev to 9000, and hang with V8's is impressive in my book. But again...you have to drive one on a nice twisty road to see how good this car really is. I only wish my car could handle like that. Thats what they are made for. Again..I'm just being subjective and using my facts to back this up. No flames intended.....carry on!

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The S2000 is overall a decent car for a stock car. I know thier 0-60 is around 5.0s flat and the quarter mile is around in the low 14s. Honda made the car to perform at its optimum level while still maintaining a smooth ride, which is why the real power is so high in the rpm band.

I have only seen 2 of them in 3 years. They are quick cars - very nimble, sort of like TVRs, but not quite as fast or exciting.
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Re: run-in w/ an s-2000!

Originally posted by 91fbirdgta
this 40 some odd year old dude nods his head to go- so he punches it and after about 2 sec. he cuts in front of me!
Good kill, for the honda won. I am amused at the denial on this board.
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I have driven S2000's. I was definetly not impressed.

It was decently quick, between 7,000 and 9000rpm...but anywhere else it fell on its face.

A 13 second quarter mile time would require a not so clutch friendly 7K slip.

The average driver would probably run mid/high 14's with this car.

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The average driver would probably run mid/high 14's with this car.
But than again the average LS1 I see would be low 14s high 13s! I have heard of high 13s from S2000s, but I have only seen one going fast and it was racing a Lightning on the road. They went by at about 80-100 and the Lightning had a good car and a half on the S2000.

A friend of ours has one and although it is a decent car, it has smaller tires than my moms Impreza, and looks too much like a Miata for me! They are nice cars for the handeling and 1/4, but for $30,000 and the fact that in order to go fast you literally have to break it, count me out!
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A chimp could have piloted my '98 to its 13.5 bone stock run.

All it did was floor it and hang on. No smoke and mirrors here...stock weight, stock tires, stock everything.

Anyone running 14's in any LS1 car, is either experiencing terrible conditions or has less brain power than the above mentioned.

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A chimp could have piloted my '98 to its 13.5 bone stock run.
Well we are at 1000+, and traction isn't the best, but that seems to be the average. There have been a few very fast ones, but nothing in the 12s. The closest I have seen stock was a 13.3, and the slowest was the 17.1 a Vette ran! Some are fast and some are slow, but most are high 13s low 14s at 103-105!

Crappy drivers! I think so, but what else do I have to judge them on?
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Most people agree that the S2000 is a "fun" car, so is a Z-06. For 30 grand I could make a lawnmower run faster than that. If I am paying 30 grand for a car and want performance I would go with an LS1 personally, would take a GT over a S2000. If I want handling I will take an MR2.

If your car can still turn, than that means that you are not going fast enough.
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hey that pic was taken at the garage up on prospect ave in bergenfield right?, and is that other firebird in the pic the trans am thats been sitting there since august....
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Nice kill 91... i see ur from Nj, and striker..u are too.. ill be sendin u guys some info on our club goin on in NJ... anyway.. nice nice kill man... forget about the ford guys.. there upset there stangs blow... nice kill and keep'm comin
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I understand completely 5.0,

1000ft + bad conditions (high humidity/heat) + non-professional (& a lot of newbie) drivers = less than perfect times

Hell, even here in chicago I have been as much as .7 off my usual times, with good traction, due to crappy weather (99% humidity/92*)

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You also have to remember I spend alot of time in the pits on the club days (I watch almost no racing) and on test and tune I have to be in the pits during my class. I know that LS1s are awesome cars and I believe they can go 12s stock, I just haven't had the pleasure to see it yet!
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I saw in some magazine forget which one but they put a vortech supercharger on a s2000 and it only ran a 13.8 in the 1/4 from the stock 14.3 thats no good considering the supercharger is like $4000
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striker19o-good eye! yea ur right, where r u from? pm me

bigals-sounds interesting; I have a small crew started already in the bergen county area-nothin's really happening now since its winter and all-the cars are just hibernating right now waiting to wake up in the spring/summer time 4 some action!
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Originally posted by 91 z28 350
I saw in some magazine forget which one but they put a vortech supercharger on a s2000 and it only ran a 13.8 in the 1/4 from the stock 14.3 thats no good considering the supercharger is like $4000
also though bolting on a SC on a stock honda S2000 you have to limit the boost a LOT



remember they are running 11:1 compression stock and with the cam timing they are using I am sure they are pulling a fairly high dynamic compression also which would make using a s/c very tricky with the stock pistons/rods/crank/fuel/ECU setup
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That is why the aftermarket will most likely be limited. I could see all the usual bolt-ons, but power adders may be difficult. I have heard the horrer stories of them blowing up already, boost sure wont help!
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I guess it would be safe to say that honda pretty much "maxed out" the performance of the engine from the factory.

Hell, they are getting 240hp out of 2.0 Litres. I always wondered why honda never produced a larger displacement engine.

Also I think it is important to remember that we are judging an import in a clearly american test (drag racing). The car was obviously designed for road racing.

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could you imagine Honda coming out with a 5.0l V8. With their engineering that could potentially be a 600hp car out of the factory. But it would also probably cost about 250K+.
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I doubt that. Even the other companies with high power to size ratio cannot make them in V8s. Toyota, although not quite Honda has a V8 now, and it is nothing special. Even Honda's V6s aren't any better than GM or Ford's. I could see if they wanted to go all out, but I doubt they would be as great as you think!
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hmm yeah i'd have to say a stock s-2000 would probably smoke a modded 305.. well unless its really modded.... in a car as heavy as an f body ne way
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Hmmmm....how much does an S2000 weigh, anyway? Besides, flybys are for ricers.
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Originally posted by 85transamtpi
I guess it would be safe to say that honda pretty much "maxed out" the performance of the engine from the factory.

Hell, they are getting 240hp out of 2.0 Litres. I always wondered why honda never produced a larger displacement engine.

Also I think it is important to remember that we are judging an import in a clearly american test (drag racing). The car was obviously designed for road racing.

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they do make larger motors... just tend to be in there SUV like rides... or there higher end cars



and I agree with your second statement... seems too many ppl here seem to think 1/4 mile at a time and that is the only type of racing....
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1/4 mile is not the only type of racing, but it is how most cars power is compared. Because of the fast and the furious everyone talks about the 1/4 mile, so when talking about fast cars that is probably the best way to compare! It's easier to get 1/4 times, than to go to a certain road coarse and get times there. I don't know my time at Lime Rock, but I know my 1/4 mile time!

The 1/4 is the universal way, because almost everyone with a fast car can and will go to one, and around the country they are pretty much all the same! IMO
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Originally posted by 5.0mustang
1/4 mile is not the only type of racing, but it is how most cars power is compared. Because of the fast and the furious everyone talks about the 1/4 mile, so when talking about fast cars that is probably the best way to compare! It's easier to get 1/4 times, than to go to a certain road coarse and get times there. I don't know my time at Lime Rock, but I know my 1/4 mile time!

The 1/4 is the universal way, because almost everyone with a fast car can and will go to one, and around the country they are pretty much all the same! IMO
that might be


but that comment was for those that say this car or that car sux b/c it isn't the greatest straight line performance car


not all cars are made for that and therefor do not post the best times b/c of that


just pointing something out
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Found out today that the S2000 weighs in at just over 3300lbs and only comes stock with a 2.0l four cylinder. Obviously it wasn't designed for the 1/4 mile or the race track. It was designed to be a fun-to-drive top-down roadster in the spirit of the MG's and Triumphs. It seems to me they were right on target with their aim.
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They move..my friends parents S2000 ran a 13.87@103 DEAD STOCK..nothing to laugh at for a 2.0 NA car. I have the slip to BTW..
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I was also reading that the new s2000 (will be called s2200) will be putting out 340hp to the crank. Although that is the jap spec the American should be close to and around 300hp. How's that for an I4. Oh, and it's all NA.
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Again.....the S2000 is what 30,000$? I bought my l98 iroc bone stock for 5k. If i had 30,000$ and was deciding to buy an S2000 or my car with 25k into it i think i may choose my car with 25 k into it...... with that much money into it, it can have serious nuts and be a great handler/smooth ride
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Again.....the S2000 is what 30,000$? I bought my l98 iroc bone stock for 5k. If i had 30,000$ and was deciding to buy an S2000 or my car with 25k into it i think i may choose my car with 25 k into it...... with that much money into it, it can have serious nuts and be a great handler/smooth ride
Okay, You could get a used Ecplipse or Talon and spend about $500 and be running 12s and handle well, and be able to drive in the snow for less than your L98! You cannot compare prices of a new car vs the price of a used car! I am not saying the S2000 is a great bang for the buck, but you can do that comparison with a Civic and Z06 as far as cost!
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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Here is a video of the S2000 I was talking about....running a 13.87 DEAD STOCK...S2000 running 13.87 This was in the summer with 80+ degree weather also. We are taking it to the track again this year and shooting for a 13.6 all stock.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by lockdude
Found out today that the S2000 weighs in at just over 3300lbs and only comes stock with a 2.0l four cylinder. Obviously it wasn't designed for the 1/4 mile or the race track. It was designed to be a fun-to-drive top-down roadster in the spirit of the MG's and Triumphs. It seems to me they were right on target with their aim.

are you sure they are 3300lbs?????


that doesn't quite seem to fit right for the car.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by rx7speed
are you sure they are 3300lbs?????


that doesn't quite seem to fit right for the car.
The curb weight is 2809...not even close to 3300! They are VERY fast on the race track btw...very good handling cars.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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I'm not so sure 500$ is gunna get a talon or eclipse into the 12's......but point well taken.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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Those guys can up the boost for only dollars when done right, and with AWD if not a 12, then a very low 13. But at least you see the point. Now if you compare that car to a new Fbody it shows that it is not very good.



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