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Raced a New Celica today...just for giggles.

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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Raced a New Celica today...just for giggles.

Some old guy started creeping up at this red light we were at right next to me in his silver celica. Tehn when the light went green I eased off the clutch and he did to but then he started to gun it and I heard his little engine wheezing pretty loud... so I let him get about 2 lengths on me and then I nailed it ( in 2nd now) and flew by him and shifted from 2-3 when he was at my rear quarter. It was pretty funny, at the next light I looked over at him and started laughing and shaking my head, he looked pretty pissed.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Yeah, I have a friend w/ a Celica GT-S. They are not fast cars by any means. And he has an auto which makes it a real dog off the line b/c it takes forever to reach the powerband.
Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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good stuff!!
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Well, you can still dump the clutch on an automatic, all you have to do is rev it up in neutral and drop it in D and it does basicaly the same thing, just not as fast and easy with a manual
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Lessk
Well, you can still dump the clutch on an automatic, all you have to do is rev it up in neutral and drop it in D and it does basicaly the same thing, just not as fast and easy with a manual
Uh, are you serious with that post? Because if you are, you must have a whooooole lot of money for new tranny's.
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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He said that you CAN do it. I'm sure if you have half a brain you know you SHOULDN'T do it. Reverse drops are a much more fun way to destroy an auto though.
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 01:59 PM
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I guess..

I don't think you can neutral drop doing 30+ miles an hour, or at least it wouldn't do you any good. As in the case of my little race here. And also most of the time neutral drops= no traction.
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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Yeah, you can do it, I sure wouldnt though

Some people do.....
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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you know what they say about those celicas....

"IT LOOKS FAST"
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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if u are going 30mph u can always drop it in first, that way u can get into ur power band fast with an auto....
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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man! a neutral drop! that is hard core RlCER at its best!!! alot of the auto RlCERS around here rev up their engines to heck and neutral drop it....man it sounds horrible! a guy I know with a Talon did it about 6 times in a row and messed up his tranny pretty nicely...never never neutral drop...if you want to take off like a manual tranny on an auto....just do what every racer with knowledge does....get some meaty tires that can hook and a stall converter.....there you go....you got a bad *** launch and consistency....AARON
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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EXACTLY.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 01:06 AM
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Before I found out more about the automotive field, I used to do what I call "Brake Burners". If your car is RWD, it's called "Brake Torqueing". Needless to say, I lost my share of brakes.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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You mean stalling up into an aggressive RPM and then letting off the brake whilst simultaneously smashing the throttle? That's launching is it not? How would you ruin your brakes like that? I can see them being marginally more abused than someone who doesn;t but if your racing, you're buying new brakes more often than most people anyhow.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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I think he means doing a slow moving burnout brake torquing. There is a red firebird in the movies page here that is doing it.

But the nuetral drop isnt a ***** thing. They used to do that in the 60's and 70's when my dad raced all the time.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Lessk
Well, you can still dump the clutch on an automatic, all you have to do is rev it up in neutral and drop it in D and it does basicaly the same thing, just not as fast and easy with a manual
yup you can do it. my buddy did it in his grandmas suburban. bang, new tranny necessary!
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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But the nuetral drop isnt a ***** thing. They used to do that in the 60's and 70's when my dad raced all the time.
well I don't know about that but they must have been going through tranny mounts, trannys and u joints alot, not to flame you or your dad but what was he thinking?...I thought....wait wait wait I know alot of old racers and most of them had bigger booster valves and built trannys, and alot of them had M22 and other Muncies....AARON
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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I was referring to flooring the gas and brake pedal in a front wheel drive car.
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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I don't thonk brake torqueing (rwd) hurts your brakes. It may if your tires aren't spinning.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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wat if you rev the engine up to bout 2,500, then hold the brake and put it into drive, is that as bad as a tranny dump?
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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hey i brake launch all the time and do 3 grand drops in my turbo 350 in the elcamino all the time. hasnt hurt it yet. but then again art carr makes great trannies
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ace_Murdock
you know what they say about those celicas....

"IT LOOKS FAST"
I say its riced out from the factory
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Slow2.8
wat if you rev the engine up to bout 2,500, then hold the brake and put it into drive, is that as bad as a tranny dump?

Shifting into drive with any rpm over about 1000-1500 is bad on an automatic transmission, especially with a stock stall.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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hey i brake launch all the time and do 3 grand drops in my turbo 350 in the elcamino all the time. hasnt hurt it yet. but then again art carr makes great trannies
Right...
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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my boy had a volvo and he use to N drop that thing all the flippin time, atleast 3 times a day!! now his mom has it and it still runin great. i sure as heck would not do it though.
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 03:14 AM
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I used to have an old cavalier that the trans was on its way out anyways, it took a while to shift from first to second. So before i brought it in to get the new trans me and my friend tried blowing up the old one. I was doing neutral drops from 5 grand, going backwards at about 25 then just pull the shifter back into 1st gear. After trying to kill it all day it still drove like it did earlier with the long 1st to 2nd shift. I dunno how it lasted but that was one tough trans lol
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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Haahaha why the fawk would you do that...hahaha can you really truely get anymore bored and hopeless?
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