SWEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!

 

Dude, I was on the edge of my seat reading this and all of a sudden, a pop-up add came on and I about crapped. The people at "Lower my bills" will get a nice little present in an unmarked brown package. (Crap, so nobody thinks I'm gunna blow up someplace.)

 

lol, hondas suck, proved time and again by f-bodies. good kill.

 

Nice!!! The best part is ya got the chick.

 

"is this your card?"

 

That's awesome... nice kill!

I WANT TO SEE THE VIDEO!!!!!

 

o the suspense! i almost forgot about this post

nice kill, looks like another one bites the dust

i figured hed accuse u of spraying, typical r!ce

glad to hear he got owned:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

 

do tooo

dem de da moturcicles huv um an dey be fas
bu me hunduh run 10 aslo

 

Please read my sig below there are not that many fast civics out there especially street driven civics.

 

Crap!! it didnt show up hmmmm?

 

and your talking about honda owners being stupid yet you can't even figure the sig out


but honest honda is a nice car for even daily driving


and can be made fast but just too many **** boys out there muffling up the real ones that do perform


there are a few

they just either seem to stay quite so you don't hear about them or they are all in one spot so you just dont see them unless you are in there area

 

I find your Sig to be very Childish and Rude!!! Get a life! And grow up. But as long as you think your funny, well then we know your not, cause you can't even come up with something on your own!

Jason did you race this guy yet or no??

 

the guy looks like a noob


prolly figures to make himself liked around here that you have to go about bashing import cause domestic pride is what it is all about


give hime time he will see it isn't about BLIND domestic pride
but yes you can have pride in your domestic but also be open minded enough to respect other cars for what they do (speed or otherwise) or what they can do

 

hey dumbass learn to spell and take some English.

 

I personally thought the sig was pretty funny, but I dont believe all imports are stupid and horrible, just those that think their car is in a graphic and sticker contest and THAT'S what makes em fast. I can stand those idiots. But I'm not trying to get a flame war started here. Just addin a couple cents

 

hiy bizatch dun mek ma keek yuu azol yuu prik

I spek an spel gud gremer yuu fuul

 

Nice kill dude! can't stand when these people think they are racers when they are in an otherwise stock car except for the intake.....laughable. when will they learn.

As far as saying that all imports are slow, no this is not true. My friends DSM has LOTS of potential!

Anywho, this is in response to some posts on the first page. YES you CAN make a 10 second honda car. And yes you can do it for somewhat cheap.....BUT the issue ther is when its cheap, its usually just a turbo kit and nos. Now.....this seems like a good idea at first, but these stock engines CANNOT take boost levels and nos safely and it will BREAK alot. I know LOTs of honda owners that are going on all engine, making about 250 HP or so but thats on a heavily modified head on a 2.2 litre prelude powerplant. These engines alone will run you easily a few grand. That on top of the head work, internals work to support all of the extra power......Thats alot of mone invested!! Detroit can always go faster for the same price although weight can become an issue. The amount of money it would take to get a 350 CI engine into the 10's won't be cheap, and there will be alot of tuning involved.....but it definately won't cost as much as it does for the honda buildups!! I have done lots of research, and in this area and I know it aint cheap to build up an import!!!

DSM's are about the cheapest cars I have found to make fast.....take ABOUT a grand (in can be cheaper or more depending on parts that the owner wants to get IE certain brands vs others) or so to get em into the 12's after that, the price really starts rocketing. To get a DSM to 10s will easily run quite a few grand as well....at least thats what all the prices I have seen suggest. BUT you still have a vehicle that has some issues with reliability. Going fast is fun, yes.....but going fast and having a reliable car is more of an issue to me then just plain going fast. I'd leave that to building a full on racecar....not a street car!

cheers!

(sorry all had to fix this post....I sounded like an idiot in the first iteration.....spelling and grammer errors all over the place

 

Well said X_wolf....but that being said don't most of us spend alot of time working on our cars??? But you are right, to get up to that 250hp mark on all motor your talking around 7grand maybe more. Imagine what kind of engine you could build for 7grand....

 

no chit man, 250 flywheel no less....

 

how much torque and horsepower do front wheel drive cars lose through their transaxle? What about all wheel drive cars??

laterz

 

FWD cars lose less hp through the drivetrain than AWD or RWD cars. AWD cars are the worse in most cases do to a huge mass of parts parasiting power in any dynamic situation.

 

4L80E will leech huge power out of your motor, but then again if you are running 1000 HP mill and want a 4-speed auto, you have no choice :-D

 

sorry to you and x-wolf but I think that might be a slight over exageration

the 2.2L already makes 200hp

I don't think it would take 7k just to make another 50hp



second hp doesn't mean faster


CRX is a very good example (sorry only light weight car that came to my head)
put a motor in there making 160hp with a few minor bolt ons and you have a car that runs 13's

put 160hp into a thirdgen and you now have a car that runs high 15's low 16's (LG4)

 

no im talking wiht buying the engine and stuf as well.....here it does cost that much. I know 4 guys taht only have and work on hondas...
it costs lots for those tihngs!!

BTW I know weight is an issue....but the civic isnt' extremely light either. light enough but not amazingly so.

just going by what I know to be true locally

 

BTW are you sure about saying 170 HP in a civic is 13's? it sounds about right, but im not sure. Still though, reliability is a huge issue!

 

Riiiiiiiight. I dont think we were talking about the weight factor. Cleary as my man said the engine horsepower. Yeah. its true though. Matter of fact, I think I'll pull out my 305, put it on my mountain bike, rig the tranny to work with the speeds on the handle and see what I run down the quarter. I thought we were talking about the average honda. Not the match-box car CRX. Anyway, just tellin you what I read

 

in a civic it wouldn't happen unless you are talking the hatchback version
CRX is only about 2100lbs at heaviest
1900 or so in the base trim
around the same for the civic hatch

and since you are using just the stock b16 or b18 motor reliability shouldn't be an issue since mods includ nothing more then i/h/e and maybe cams and cam gears

not really hopped up or anything
just basic mods


the car is so light nothing to worry about


as far as cost
finding it about 2999 or so roughly for the 22h
put about a 50 shot on nitrous and you have 250 for less then 7000k

but nah depends on which route you go
either way including motor only way I can see 7000k is a build up that is going to run you maybe 5000k or so
but that is going ot give you around 350-400hp
and your going to be boosted

 

a CRX is a avg honda
there are quite a few of them still on the roads

and as I said sorry for using it but it was the first car of such a light weight that came up

and your man did mention weight as well so no need to be a smart *** guy

 

actually, he didnt, re-read the post. Its not unitl you said something. Anyhow, dont think I'm gonna sit here and argue over this. The fact is, it takes hp=fast. Whether you think that or not. now it might not take as much to go as fast as a match-box car as it would an f-250, but more hp equals, guess what, more power and faster et's. And I love being a smartass, sorry

 

The post was about all engine. no nos...just engine. And sorry, I've seen one too many civics with prelude engines and nos burnin rings, and breaking axles (which is quite funny

reliability is an issue.

 

also, blowing the welds on the intake... dont foget that... also, make sure your not granny shifting, double clutching... i heard that in a movie somewhere...

 

I have no idea what movie you'd be talking about. It seems that kind of movie would make lots and lots of civic and eclipse drivers think that they could throw a couple turbos and some "nos" on their rides and whip any car's @$$. Better not let anyone know about (*cough* F&F 1 or 2) that movie. Might have some stupid idiots become R*CERS. Oh well

 

quot from icedfire01

he did bring up weight

seconldy my comment was hp doesn't automaticly mean fast


sure it does help

but high hp doesn't mean in that instant you have a fast car

there is more to a fast car then just how much hp you have

but if you think hp= fast

guess that means if I put a 400hp motor in my friends desoto it will be fast right?

 

the axle issue I agree with

that is just one weak spot on mazda

as far as burning rings and such

a lot of that has to do with tuning

most people seem to just want to throw the kit on and say sweet I have *insert power adder here*

end result blown motor


but even N/A don't think 7k if you do it the budget way

 

well as said...around here, thats what it costs. The prelude 2.2 motor goes for 4K alone. Then mods to make it more reliable, and head work.....head work on those things has an insane premium.

No your friends desoto will not be extremely fast and I konw just HP won't make your car go faster. BUT still, pricewise, detroit will always go faster. Seen it many a time, and know alot of people that build up camaros, corvettes, and the like, do it cheaply and have a FAST car. I don't race so I don't care. 350 HP for me is good for passin and havin a little fun!

cheers

 

I just want to clarify something real quick with this post. I see a lot on this site about prelude this, H22 (prelude engine) that. The engine with the most modiblity would be the B18 (Integra- GSR which is B18c1 or if you have extra cash B18c5- Type R motor). The H22 is extremely hard to build (at least here in the states) and the B series engines have an almost endless aftermarket. The first B series engine popped up in the late 80's and have been used in cars until the recent K-series popped up in 2002 (RSX, new SI). So the B series has 12-13+ years of R&D. I'm not going to get too detailed but people als mix/match engines (B16 head w/ a C5 bottom end). And to confirm what you guys said, being a honda driver for the time being (I wanted an LS1 but it doesn't fit what I need out of a car right now) I would be perfectly fine with a 13 sec NA car. The best I will do is a low 14 w/ mild cams, cam gears, I/H/E and some tuning.
If you got to the bottome of the post CONGRADULATIONS!

 

im sorry were you saying something? I was reading and was struck with a sudden fit of narcolepsy...

 

lol....that was hilarious

 

Ok so you say you want a 13 second Honda?
My friends bone stock 94 civic LX sedan is a 13 second car automatic too... of course thats in 1/8th mile, but that was a fun nite.



OH and about the girl

 

was there a conversation going on here? all i saw was ***...

 

where's the vid?

 

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/22838/index.html

I know we were talking a lot about NA hondas, and this one definitely cost a hella lot of money to make but its still a pretty badass honda, so check that out

 

Damn! Almost a 10 second car for 6 grand. That's pretty damn good for a 4 banger. And one HELL of a sleeper at that. I have to give it up to that guy. Great work. I have to go though. I think I'm gonna get a 6k loan and see what I can get my car runnin'!!!! Heh!

 

I have a hard trime believing that. 6K at prices someone in the industry can get....doubtful though otherwise, but maybe so. I stil will stick with my camaro its pertier!!

cheers!

 

As a wise man in black rubber once said...

"Its the car, right? Chicks love the car."

Good kill man... way to put him in his place, and prove that there truly is no replacement for displacement

LONG LIVE AMERICAN MUSCLE!!

(BTW, whats his phone#? I could use a little cash right now, lol)

 

wow... I didnt catch the part about that car having 6k worth of mods... but Im sure he didnt charge himself labor from his machine shops and stuff... most of that stuff is fabricated by his company from what I understood. its amazing what you can do with the right tools and some knowledge,

I think its the GM parts on that Honda that make it so fast, without those knock sensors... he would be slowwwwww

 

where is this quote from?

 

It's probably late for this, but I'm gonna mention 2 Civics that are around this area. Both have $10K in their engines. One has a blown engine (not sure what kind) and runs 14.1 second 1/4 miles, where the other is a hatchback has a turbo and nitroused engine and runs 13.2 second 1/4 miles.

But as some people have pointed out around here, it's possible to go faster for cheaper with imports.

 

holy crud that guy must be a good driver... If I could get my car to run 14s on a blown motor I would be HAPPY with myself... imagine the look on peoples faces when I come back to race after blowint the welds on my intake manifold and my floorboard falling off and I still Run a 14 second ET... I would probably need someone helpin me go flintstone style through my fallen floorboard
:hail:

 

i think when he says "blown" he means supercharged. they make quite a few centrifugal SC's for honda engines.