Alright heres the deal My girlfriend just got some new nieghboors and one of them has a 90 LX 5.0 . Its an auto with : headers,BBK H pipe with cats,flowmaster catback,and a cold air intake. He wanted to race yesterday but I have a terrible exhuast leak and I dont want to race him until I get the parts I ordered friday.Heres what my setup will be: full roller 350 tbi,670 cfm throttle body,performer RPM intake,cop car chip,headers and full exhuast without cats ,no ac ,3.08 gear,B&M ratchet shifter and shift kit,2'' carb spacer,K&N open element filter, and 4'' fiberglass cowl hood.I think I should beat him.I ran a 14.6 with just the 350 tbi,full exhuast ,drag radials, and a holley 670 that I borrowed from a friend at the time( I will get mine friday).What do you think.But I am also not sure what rear gear he has.

 

I think you will leave him sitting. Put a wager on it and take his money.

 

I dont want to take his money,this is just a friendly race he actually complimented my car ,he never talked any crap or anything like that,even though most mustang drivers do to us 3rd gen guys.He seems to be a nice guy and this is just a friendly race.So you think I have him,anyone else?

 

I think you can take the guy...but what do I know about racing my car has an lo3...:lala:

 

If he has gears in the car it will be a good race, if he has the stockers, you will take him!

 

I have an '89 LX in the garage with 28,000 miles on it. It is stock auto 5.0 less a K&N, pulley's, and a cold air intake.

Ran 14.4 at 99.7mph on a street radial five years ago.

 

can I have it?, it looks like you dont use it much and its just sitting around, I could get it out of you garage to free up some space . On a more serious note tho, notchbacks rule, nice car.

 

WOW, thats one good mph for a stock car! Should do a few mods and get her in the 12s with an auto and a stock motor!

 

stop peddling your pro-mustang crap around here!!

Hey im heading down to the pike friday... PM me if you wana meet up?

 

Hey not my fault the car is running good for a stock auto!

Actually now that I am at school I dont really have time to go to the Pike anymore. My car is at home and when I do go back I have to rebuild my traction loc and weld in subframes. But hey, I am looking for a 12.9 so I am gonna do the work!

 

Hasn't seen much peddling since! LOL

 

you oughta beat him cause its an auto. if it's a 5-speed you will lose horribly.

 

I have a stock 89 notch sitting in my garage too

 

I have a 90 LX 5.0 hatch. With 2.73 rear end gears, it is one strong little pony out of the hole. With my cousins 99 cobra with 100 more horse than the 5.0, the 5.0 has it out of the hole. But you got a lot of mods too, but I think you have him, especially since its a auto, compared to my moms 5 speed.

 

OK I rode with him in it to autozone today to pick up some oil and that sucker is pretty quick.we pulled up next to an Lt1 trans am and raced him to about 65 and they were neck and neck.He told me he has like 3.27 gears or somewhere around there.I still think I should beat him but after his little ecounter with the trans am ( which definetly wasnt stock by the way)I am a little nervous now.Well see I have all the parts now except my new throttle bodyand cowl hood both of wich I am expecting thursday. I probably wont have the parts in until sat. though we will see what happens I guess.

 

HA HA I love this place, every post that gets started you will see some real times and then there comes this post every time you can bet money on it. where this stock or almost stock car runs some crazy times ,flame me all you want but, stock auto w/K&N's ,pullies and cold air some of these times I read are just nuts. if it was a 5-speed I could see if you hooked up and drove really good.

So I guess from what this guy says your gonna get wasted then

 

I dont think they are "crazy times". It is a 14.4, not a mid 13 or anything. There have been Mustangs running faster times then that, so I dont see what all the fuss is about. Oh well, I dont see BS, but thats your opinion.

 

Yeah those times do seem alot off just because of my experience w/ people I have run and there mods , but I wouldnt doubt those times at all . Just because I smoked my friends notch back that was lightly modded when I run a 14.6 doesnt mean I doubt that someone else can run a 14.4 in an almost stock one.Times very with drivers and the condition of the car.So I wouldnt call those "crazy" times but I do see where your comin from.

 

I do too as I ran a 15.3 with a bone stock AOD (I had the 2.73s), but everything in his case is different. Different car, track, day, everything. I will never call BS unless the times are too rediculous!

 

My 89 LX auto 2.73 ran a 15.54@92, although it had stereo and heavy 17" rims. My 93 GT 3.27 AOD ran 14.90@94 with pulleys and filter. I did full exhaust and only dropped to a 14.88@96, same night my OD crapped in it. I did the swap myself, dropped over a second to a 13.80@100 with crappy 60ft on street tires and 3440lbs. My other friend with identical car to me, 93 GT 3.27 AOD, ran a 14.88@96 dead stock...then a 14.66@97 with just pulleys and cold air.

 

sounds to me like yall are going to be perty close. If your tranny is working properly with that shift kit you just might just get him...BTW if he kept up right next to a modded Lt1 like you said, I dont know...moddded Lt1s arent slow. Id say put those drag radials on, beat him out of the hole and see if he can catch up. Let us know how it goes!

 

Yeah, i hear that all the time. WHat's funny is that half these guys saying that can't drive stick to save their life. Funny to watch them drop back 2-3 cars during each shift.

 

My AOD LX ran 14.6 @ 93MPH bone stock.

Now with exhaust (headers and cat-back with stock restrictive cats), cobra intake, 65mm TB, pullies, electric fan, K&N and 3.73's i have run 13.9 @ 100MPH. The AOD is untouched still. Still sloppy shifts and stock converter.

 

Also a LX not a loaded GT, my car was 3500 exactly with me and 1/2 tank when auto. For comparison my friends loaded 2000 SS was 3565 with him in it! My 89 had 130,000+ miles and shifted like crap...if I didn't shift it manually it would shift into drive at like 4400 rpm's. I got same times either way, it would raise 500 rpm's in the time it took for it to shift. With 4.10's it dropped to a 14.5 though....no other mods. My GT shifted good though, 100% stock tranny and would chirp 2nd hard every time...even with 275/40 17's. I dropped over .10 in 1/4 by going back to lighter 16's compared to the 17's. Full exhaust was a total waste on my car, it felt quicker and went better with 100% stock exhaust. Shifting at 4800 rpm's doesn't make much use of the higher flowing exhaust. My cousin ran a 14.3@99 with all stock exhaust (except catback), stock 2.73's, and just pulleys. That was with a 2.31 60ft also...but a 5spd car.

 

It's funny because I have raced a few guys at the track who would go faster if they had an auto. One guy had a Coupe with not much if anything done, but barely got a 15.6 out of the car! With an auto he could have been 15.0-15.2 with it.

 

My 'vert was running 15.6's bone stock. Took a 2400 stall converter, 3.73's, X pipe, drag radials, and a little suspension work to get it into the 14.20's. Car was heavy as crap though. My dad's hatch has gone 13.80 with basically the same mods.

 

Alright I still havent recieved all my parts yet , which is pissing me off.Also my setup has changed a little , instead of running the holley 670 tbi setup, I now have a holley commander 950 setup with a 700 cfm 4 barrell throttle body. This setup is way better than the gm tbi setup with 670 holley. I doubt it will make a real big difference but I got it for dirt cheap, and I would rather run that on my performer RPM manifold than a 2bbl tbi unit with an adapter plate.Just thought I would let yall know.

 

Hey...did anyone else think this was a third gen camaro and firebird site? could of swarn it says Thirdgen.org in the adress bar.

 

don't hate

 

heheheh

mustang drivers always...

 

Heheheh, we do always yack on here, but hey I thought this thread was about racing a Mustang, and we are giving all you uninformed Fbody owners info on Mustangs. What combos have been proven to run, and what to look out for. If you do not want the info we are giving you, go ahead and race any Mustang without any knowledgea dn get beat. It's fine by me, no sweat off my back if you dont like it. But remember every post does not need to have thirdgen info or else you would be in just as much trouble as us!

 

yea im guessing if he kept up with a LT1 u r gunna lose bro sorry to say, those LT1s kick royal *** and when they r modded they can easily take a weak stang, good luck, i definately would NOT put money on it tho haha, the 5spd should give u a little edge off the line but im not so sure u'll take him all the way but let us kno!

 

Yeah but you never know , the only reason i say the Lt1 wasnt stock was because I could see the borla tips on his car and it was of course loud as hell. You never know the guy might not have been able to drive. I have riddin in some fast cars , and he had his foot to the floor and it just didnt stick my head to the seat like most high 13 second to low 14 second cars stick your head to the seat and his just didnt feel as fast as it should. I know I shouldnt really judge it by that but I think I might have him. There are just so many factors, but I am definetly not put money on it.

 

yea, very true, it should be a good race and if u win (which i hope ya do) congrats and mark 1 more up for the 3rd gens!

 

Remember this, a 302 will make less torque then a 350. Therefore if noth are high 13s, the 350 will "feel" faster when neither is faster! Other than that have fun and dont bet $$!

 

I raced a LT1 with my cousins 89 GT a few weeks ago. The LT1 had catback for sure (loud as hell), big monster tach, and was 6spd . My cousins 89 GT has , 3.27 gears, K&N, h-pipe, catback, and pulleys and is 5spd. I raced him from a stop, and killed him pretty good all the way to about 100 where he started to pull by slowly. Raced again from a roll at like 20mph and we were dead even almost, all the way past 100 where he barely edged me out. I had him all the way until just over 110 that time. I had my cousin in his car and that kid in Camaro was alone.

 

Buddy of mine had a 91 GT/auto with a b&m shift kit, 3.73 gears, stock headers, h pipe, 3 chamber flowmasters oh yeah and a 9psi paxton

We pulled up beside a lt1 that had exhaust and who knows what else. Racing out of the hole the camaro left us as we sat spinning at 1/4 throttle. Finally the mustang hooked and we caught up but by this time the camaro shut it down.

His mustang was fast but needed tuned and needed traction.

9psi of boost with stock fuel system besides a FMU is pretty dumb. The mustang detonated like Iraq during shock and ahh.

 

LOL... mark one up for N/A!!!!

 

Alright it went down friday a little somethin like this: I didnt get all my parts, I had everything except my cowl hood,carb spacer,and I still have a minor exhuast leak (I tightened up my Y pipe the best I could and it made a real difference).Also I was wearing my drag radials out back . The first run we had a friend flag us and off the line I jumped on him about 3 links and kept about a fender on him for a while until about 75 and then he barely beat me, my friend said it was like a foot and a half difference. Then we went from a 30 mph roll and he beat me by about a car length. Then we went one more time from a stop and I beat him, he was at my back tire.All this was on a back road where there is nothing but land and we have a Red line painted at a little shorter than a 1/4 mile (probably about 15 ft short).I think with the spacer and the cowl hood I would have had him both times by at least a car considering I would have been getting alot colder air and the cowl hood weighs 35 lbs less than my stock hood also I want to completly change my header gaskets, my tach is also way off , at idle it sits at 2000 and (I know its not ideling that high)I kind of had to shift blind but that doesnt make much of a difference I can kind of tell the difference in the numbers on the tach and the engine sound. Anways I am not trying to make excuses or anything I just know it would have been different, I am going to race him again when I fix the leak and get my hood . Just wanted to let you know how it went.PEACE

 

did he have slicks on?

 

Nope street tires with brand new tread, so I had the advantage there.

 

ah i c, well that sux, but u lost to a formidable opponent, those stangs r quick...

 

Nothing wrong with getting beat by a Mustang, just more incentive to mod!

 

nope there's not, i like mustangs (just think 80's style is ugly, but VERY QUICK) but it still sux that he lost, i like to c F-bodies win always, but like i said it was a formidable opponent and stangs r good cars...

 

I have 9lb kit seeing 6-7@5400rpm's and ran ttimes in sig with FMU and ZERO timing..all on stock gears and everything. LT1's are not even close...unless the are SC'ed or have a stroker.

 

At least I beat him once, we are going to go back out and do some racin this friday , I dont think we are going to race each other unless there isnt anything but slow jap crap hangin around, I am thinkin about getting a new tach , maybe then I will run him this weekend,It would be nice to know what RPMs I am shifting at.OH and mustangs are definetly formitable opponents , I have always loved the foxbodys, but if you think about how much work I have had to do to this car , I am happy to just be able to hang with a lightly modded one, especially considering when it had the 305 I couldnt stay within 5 cars of a stock 5.0.I have been through hell with this car i basically built her from the ground up and now that its runnin right I will be doing some heavy stuff to it at the end of the year.Take it easy guys.

 

have fun man, good luck

 

Not hating, but just curious, why do mustang (non- 3rdgen owners) post here on "thirdgen.org" ? Isn't there a pluthera of Mustang boards to post on?

Just FYI. You NEED a tach. Shift points make ALL the difference in a race between 2 cars that are close in performance. You won the race that you did because you were shifting where you were supposed to be. You could be short changing yourself from shifting too early or too late.

Just a thought!

 

Because without us you would have though a Mustang with a Cobra intake, throttle body, CAI, pulleys, exhaust, 3.73s, and tires would be a 14 second car!!! We are here to educate and lots of the peopl here need it, and most appreciate it!

 

Yeah , at first I didnt understand why you mustang guys were here, but I really dont care , from what I have seen you guys are cool and you really do help us clear up all the mustang arguments,most of the mustang guys I know are ****** and think that if you dont have a mustang your not cool, but you ,nic,and chevyeater ,(sorry if I left anyone elso out) are cool with me and I appreciate your input.