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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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87 Camaro LG4 vs. 97 Camaro Z28

anybody that lives in Charleston, SC I was at the Ashley Phos. Dorchester Rd. Light behind a 97 Z28 and the light changed green and he launched off and I stayed right with him so he let me becide him and I punched it and then so did he and by time we were almost in front the Bosh plant I was still in front of him. I checked my spedo and it was pinned at the trip od. needle so I guess we were doing about 100MPH maybe 105MPH in a 50MPH zone then I had to make my turn to go home I just waved to him ant went home. I t was sooo much fun.
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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are you sure he was racing? a stock LG4 beating a LT1 doesn't sound right to me
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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3.8L?
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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3.8L?
Possibly, but he says it was a Z28
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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sounds more like you raced a 3.4, an LT1 trying to be slow wouldn't be as slow as an LG4
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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He could have made a mistake......not saying he did....
I raced a friends LT1 in my LG4, and by the time we hit 20 all i seen was tail lights.........it was a really nasty loss for me, ah well
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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there are a lot of idjits who toss Z28 emblems on their cars. Besides, a 3.8 has 200 hp, which is still 30-40 more than an LG4. This story sounds mad fishy....
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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it was probably a 3.4..a 3.8 or z28 would wipe the floor with an LG4.
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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yeah definately. I just raced my friend in my 87 iroc 350 tpi with a 700r4 tranny and a trans go shift kit and he has a 95 lt1 trans am 6 speed. i kept up with him for a little (he still had about a car or so on me) then at about 60 he pulled on me pretty good. what im trying to say is if my iroc couldnt keep up then it just sounds a little out of wack to me hehe.
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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I think it was a 3.4 that would have been close but the 3.8 or more would have left you
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by 88 350 tpi formula
I think it was a 3.4 that would have been close but the 3.8 or more would have left you
Yep, 3.4 cars would probably give the LG4 a pretty good run. 3.8 cars would give a LB9 a good run.

LT1 cars were 14 second cars, LG4 cars were 16 second cars. That's a possible 20 cars lead in the quarter, which would be by 100mph. It would have to be the worst LT1 car I've ever heard of
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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Come on can anybody give the LG4 any credit.
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by 87cam305
Come on can anybody give the LG4 any credit.
Not a bone stock one against an LT1. Take it to the track and see for your self just how bad u will get whooped against any real LT1. Expecialy on the highway, the faster they go the better they go, I can kill stock LT1's in the 1/4 with my TPI 5-Speed but on the highway I can barley pull on them, add some minor mods and I am see'n tail lights.

But to beat an LG4 in the 1/4 I dont even have to leave second gear, proved it to a friend of mine with an 85 Z28 LG4 5-Speed with bolt ons.

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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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my bone stock 84' auto LG4 equipped Z28 went 16.0 at 85mph. your 87' should do slightly better due to its 20hp boost, but still nowhere near what a LT1 will do.

just for a comparison, my girlfriends 94' auto Formula with nothing but cold air has run a best of 13.7 at 101 in this hot air. theres a 2 second difference between a LG4 and a LT1
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by 87cam305
Come on can anybody give the LG4 any credit.
it makes 160 HP. an LG4 just isn't powerful
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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hawks92---
wat happend to that formula, thats a sad sight. was it fine after pullin it outta that ditch?
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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When i was at the track last i raced and 1lt and an ls1 both cars took off after 1st gear and were gone pullin mid 13's and i have an lg4, well i didnt stand a chance against either and still my quickest time is 16.003 with a 2.3-2.4 60' times
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by SLP IROC-Z
hawks92---
wat happend to that formula, thats a sad sight. was it fine after pullin it outta that ditch?
I learned the hard way, that A car that got rubber into four out of 5 gears, wasnt a good car to drive in the winter

Unfortunetly no the car didnt servive the ditch, I twisted the frame so bad the pass side head light could only go half way up. I miss that sleeper, I always got laughed at when I pulled up beside another sports car at a set of lights, but I never lost a street race in it, so I always got the last laugh

The fastest LG4 I have seen ran a 15.8 with only headers, k/n with the dual snorkle breather. Slowest LT1 I have seen ran a 15.01 so still no comparison. I am sure if u started adding cam's and intakes and heads and such u could make LG4's fast.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Are you sure on the year? The 3.8 was in full production in 1996... most stock 3.8's should still beat the fastest LG4...

The 3.8 runs mid 15's I believe with an auto fully loaded. I have a '97 3.8 and I'm pushing probably about 215-220 Hp.

I've raced a supposed Z28 of similar year... I gave him enough competition to worry him, but he gained a carlength by 60... not sure what year or the tranny type.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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About the LG4 vs. 3.8
I also have an 87 Z28 with an LG4 and 2.73 open. I put in a new 700R4, K&N, headers, y-pipe, high flow cat, cat-back, and some 245's in the back. My dad has an 01 3.8 5 speed with ram-air, lid, cat-back, and 3.23's. We have raced 6 times now at the strip, and I have taken him 5 of them. The only one he got me on was my first time ever at the strip. He can't drive it very well, since its a 15 second car stock, and his best run was 16.2. My best is a 16.3 @ 82. He always traps higher than me, but im still beating him. We are going to the track tuesday night, where I hope to hit 15.8 after sorting out some little things. I can now get some good rubber (10 foot strips) while it shifts to second. It could never do that before. But hes taking his W41 powerd GA. which will really hand it to me, it should be mid to low 14s
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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Most of the cars I've seen with my mods or similar are running ~ 14.6 - 14.8 with good tires and a good driver.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Stu162
About the LG4 vs. 3.8
I also have an 87 Z28 with an LG4 and 2.73 open. I put in a new 700R4, K&N, headers, y-pipe, high flow cat, cat-back, and some 245's in the back. My dad has an 01 3.8 5 speed with ram-air, lid, cat-back, and 3.23's. We have raced 6 times now at the strip, and I have taken him 5 of them. The only one he got me on was my first time ever at the strip. He can't drive it very well, since its a 15 second car stock, and his best run was 16.2. My best is a 16.3 @ 82. He always traps higher than me, but im still beating him. We are going to the track tuesday night, where I hope to hit 15.8 after sorting out some little things. I can now get some good rubber (10 foot strips) while it shifts to second. It could never do that before. But hes taking his W41 powerd GA. which will really hand it to me, it should be mid to low 14s
your dad can't drive worth **** then lol
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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I know he can't drive. As soon as he can drive it decently I know I'm gone. He wants me to take a run with his car, and I really really want to top his time, since he also makes fun of how I have an auto, and that I can't drive stick all the time.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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From: "No one cares if you're in before the lock!" - Best quote ever.
My stock '95 T/A (w/ 2.73's A4 ) did 13.9 @ 102, if you'd like to use that as a benchmark.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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My stock '95 T/A (w/ 2.73's A4 ) did 13.9 @ 102, if you'd like to use that as a benchmark.
What was the mileage, weather, and launch like?
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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From: "No one cares if you're in before the lock!" - Best quote ever.
Milage around 125 XXX Kilometers (miles = ?), Weather..hmm....mid to high 70's, no launch, just stomping from stand still. Apparently these times are right around normal.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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yeah seems normal to me
i was just wondering
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Azure
Milage around 125 XXX Kilometers (miles = ?), Weather..hmm....mid to high 70's, no launch, just stomping from stand still. Apparently these times are right around normal.
76,XXX Miles
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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sorry but LG4s don't beat 3.1 Fbody cars much less an lt1
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