I dunno dude, if your broke how are you going to afford those mods? Seriously, headers and a ram air hood dont come cheap, IMO those are major mods.
Maybe get a cheap pair of headers with a cutout or secretly unbolt your exhaust before you race him...then use your newfound cash to put it towards some more mods! mwahahah

 

hmmm, unbolt the exhaust? hmmmm would that give me much more power? i mean if it would i definatly do so. then i'd woop his ***.

I'm am currently stapped for cash however, well i dont knwo how i'm gonan ge the mods but my rents will load me some money. I just got done paying off a $1200 debt to my mother. She wont loan me money for racing though, she says its too dangerous. Moms... cant live with them, cant live without them.

 

unbolting your exhaust will give you more top end power but less low end grunt. i wouldnt do it since im guessing your runs over the rear end like most stock and aftermarket exhausts for thirdgens. to make it easy, if you got a welder and a sawzall you could just cut it by the rear end, and unbolt it from the hedders. then weld it back on after the race... alot of trouble for a not to significant gain

 

Just go race already....If you think about it to much you will psych yourself out. Line it up on the street. If you don't race that far(1/8th mile) you might not even be speeding Always beware someone who approaches you to race for money. Also, he could steal the hit and that would make up as much as a half a second. Good luck.

 

lol the speedo dont mean a thing.. my 83 speedo only goes to 80mph

 

ok, here we go, i have a 87 z28 camaro, 305 tpi, exhaust and a few slight mods, and i raced a v6 vortect blazer, 4 door, 4x4, he was goin out wit my aunt, so we decided to race for the hell of it, and i smoked the hell outta him, it wasnt even funny,t hose are dogs, i've drove it too, and they are dogs

 

and his camaro isnt

 

insightful... maybe compared to the 305 TPI it's a dog. but post whoring is cool.

I agree just go race for bragging rights, headers, ram air etc... isn't "cheap mods" if they were everybody and their brother would have them done. good luck

 

then what the hell are cheap mods?

 

yes it is cool. cheap mods are free mods u port ur intake u take weight out pull some belts. thats why you get a muscle car to race not these. in cali anyway. with my camaro i have to have almost everything stock to pass. cept exhaust new carb intake cam.

 

yeah stuff like porting intake, tb bypass, k&n's, shift kit( to a certain extent). but since u just said u just repaid your mom 1200 bucks headers and a ram air set up is gonna put you another 1200 approx. in debt if you go with quality parts, like hooker, slp etc... you might wana take a look at the home made ram air, it will give you a little more power on the top. have u done all the free mods? if not why not start there. i honestly dont think you will have much trouble with this blazer as you sit, i drove an s10 with the same motor and it wasn't anything to hang your hat on, my L03 would give it a good race and you'd most likely embarass me.

 

Why don't you just run you're car without him at the track, and see what it run's in the 1/8. This way, you'll (and we'll) know what you're dealing with.....

As far as mods go, if you're that worried about racing this guy's 6 cylinder..... get yourself a stall-speed converter, 4.10 gears in the rear, and maybe even modify you're tranny gears themselves.

With these mods, regardless of you're peanut-cammed 305.... you'll destroy him. I know, it's kind-of expensive though

 

yea to bad those mods will cost him at least a g 406

 

well i'm emabarassed to say i have done no free mods..... is this bad?

and yeah that might be out of what i want to do right now. But as far as i know a 4.10 rear will severely lower my top speed. The lower that numer the higher your top speed it. But with w 4.10 you'll accellerate very quickly right?

The bad thing i found out though is when i mess with the gears my Speedo will mess up and not read correct speeds. What would i do to fix this?

Also my mom would easily let me borrow another $600 since i paid off that debt so quickly, 12 weeks. But i think i'll try to do it on my own this time.

Explain tome about these free mods though, what should i do and how much will they cost. I have a dremel just not that amny bits, they've either wore out of lost them.


shane

 

My friends Grand National's speedometer maxes out at 85 and it does a HELL of a lot more than 85!

 

u get those gears ur gonna get ****ty gas mileage which cost money. if u dont do free mods and you dont have to smog ur car ur a fool or just plain lazy or u just like your car stock

 

Not necessarily. A TCI "Saturday Night Special" is pretty cheap, and is perfect for a relatively stock engine. As for rearend gears, 4.10's aren't that expensive..... especially if he does the work himself.

But the tranny gears, yeah.... that's pretty costly, and are a PITA to install.

 

Remember Shane, we're talking about the 1/8th mile here. Top end HP is not even an issue. As for any issues about gas mileage, the mods that I mentioned were for the actual race itself. Once you win, you could always swap back to what you already had before.....

 

yeah thats true, 4.10 would stop tire spin also wouldn't it?

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...gpounds.shtml\
Read and kick is ***. BTW, since when the hell does the Trans Am wiegh anything that even remotely resmbles 4000lbs!?
WHOOP HIS *** FOR ALL OF US!

 

look in the tech articles about TB bypass and ram air. have u done any timing advancement? i dont know much about it, but it helps from what i know. cheap mods, yeah the TC is a couple hundred bucks, but if you say u can barrow another 600 no big deal, with that i'd buy a decent set of headers, from the ACS place above, they have great deals and they are coated inside and out, i'd go with the headman LT's personall and then get a bigger y-pipe and cat. that's gonna put u at around that 600, the headers are like 260, a 3" y pipe is about 100 and a cat, well who knows what you get into, just depends on what u buy. and if u have some left over, get SFC's, that might be a wise idea for the 600, probably looking at a few more dollars though.

 

it takes me 45 min to intsall rear ends of course i got 2 a 455 cog a 373 but hey its your car 411 will make u spin more than say 308s

 

enough about the speedo's my car doesn't even have one anymore and i run 103 in the eigth and 128 mph in the quarter...speedo or no speedo, just forget you have one..

 

your cars strictly for dragging though right?

 

Dude, if he trully is stock and u cant whoop him, your in trouble.

My 1999 Exteme 4.3l Vortec 5-Speed would whoop him and it had trouble beating my brothers, mild modded LG4 let alone a TPI car. Go kill him.

 

this one has been for this summer, my s10 ran 12's and speedo was crappy so i put monster tach in front of it,

 

i really think that this dude is runnin nos or something, or else he wouldnt be doin this, because if he dont have nos, then he should have enough sense that his vehicle is a dog, but the 305 tpi isnt all that doggy if properly tunes, maybe compared to the 350 but duh, 305 tpi isnt all that bad at all, A LOT better than the tbi,

 

My dads best friend was a mechanic for 20 years and he told me that the best way to go faster is weight reduction. If you don't want to go nuts then just take out the back seats and anything in the trunk or whatever. Make sure your gas tank isn't full too, that'll weigh you down.

 

hmm i always try to race with a full tank. although it is more weight, it helps with traction(which i have a severe problem finding). i also moved some things like the battery to the back to help with traction and weight dist.

 

hell, if you can borrow $600 from your mom...get the blue bottle and call it a day. That's what I would do at least.

 

race yet?

 

one- "the bottle is for babys"
If you cant win a race without nos then you just suck. NOS is for R!cers.

two- yes, we did it in the school parking lot the past friday. I wooped his *** but the parking lot is about 300-400ft long so i dunno if that was a good length.

But yeah i got my respect, now a d00d with a 95 Camaro wants to race me. Just a camaro, V-6 model, no performance mods at all. I know i can kill him.

 

That may be your opinion and it appears to be a strong one, but no power adder has nearly the same bang for the buck in initial cost. It is the easiest to install and the best part is it is easy to conceal. It provides awesome power when you want it on demand and at a bargain price. A lot of people run NOS, not just imports as you seem to imply. You'll see the light one day when you see the taillights of somebody spraying on you on the street. It has happened to the best of us. A win is a win, Even if they use "dirty and cheating" NOS if you are behind at the end, no exuse or crying is gonna matter, no matter what the reason...you lost.

 

Yeah what he said, can we kill this post already!

 

i'd have to disagree. Do top fuel draggsters use NOS, no!!!!. So why should these people with wimpy cars be using it. They should upgrade the manly way. That is spend a **** load of money and then get good power. Maybe a supercharger or a turbo, i dont consider those cheating but NOS is just cheap horsepower.

 

Top Fuel Dragsters don't use NOS, for the same reason they don't use turbos, water injection, Fuel injection, and many other "modern" tools of power...they are prohibited by the rules of that class.

If you search the internet and and performance car magazines you will see V8's taking 1000+ shots of N2O, I don't know what you consider a wimpy engine, but that sure in the hell isn't it. Many of them make upwards of 1,000hp NA before the system engages.


What is the "MANLY" way to make power? That comment sounds like a chicksh*t comment to weasle out of losing. Such as the classic, "I would have beat him, if he didn't use his NOS." Sorry that you could have beat him if he didn't. But, they did and you lost...Life sucks, wear a helmet. Next race may go better.

A common though of many wise people over many centuries will echo in accordance with your "NOS is just cheap horsepower" remark. That is "Work smarter, Not Harder.". Do I use NOS...NO? Do I condem its use, NO. N2O, Turbo's, Superchargers all acomplish the same goal...Horsepower. This debate has been waged here forever and if you wish to read more about it...there have been plenty of threads in the past on it. I will post no more about it. Forgive me for ranting mods...

Edit: fixed formating errors...

 

I'm going to have to agree with kidrcth. It's like using a cheat in a video game. Sure you win but why even bother? It sucks the challenge away. I guess it's cool for the track but who the hell wants to spend $600+ on just racing people on the street? I can also see if you race for money. If you race for money and DON'T use N2O, that's a bad move. If you just race for fun then nitrous oxide ruins it.

 

thanks, my point exacly. Well my point better reworded.

 

your not making much sense, cause nos makes power.....hmmm so do heads, dome pistons, cams, turbos,carbs.....so is that all cheating then too.....maybe you should get into bone stock racing with no mods just to call life fair....i have a 600 merlin that we run 300 nos on, and a 412 small block we ran 200, once you have it you won't say its cheating.....when it plants your *** in the seat like nothing before...
so thats my opinion on that subject

 

OK, here's what i think kidrcth meant. N2O is cheap, plain and simple. Everything else adds up after a while and that's what's cool, doing work to your car. It's just boring to slap a $600 set up on your car and blast everything. If you know you can win, why bother racing? I'm pretty sure i understand what he means and i feel the same way. If i was racing someone for fun and they decided to use nitrous oxide it would **** me off. I'd probably want to headbutt them in the face for making me waste my time. Racing is cool because you never know what the other guy has. If they just have a few modifications and so do you, anyone can win, it's a challenge and it's exciting. If you pull up next to some guy who's beats you by 125 horses it's just like........wow, that must have been a challenge................******.

EDIT: Watch your language.

-TGO Administration

 

ok i can see that....but i still like to really spank some people that i know i am way faster than....just so we can joke around later....don't you like at the track when they line up a 9 second car in one lane and a 14 second in the other....how that looks...maybe im just twisted....

 

Is that y u been bugging to race me? U twisted.....

 

This discussion is stupid. Nitrous is a valid way of increasing power in a racing application much like a supercharger or turbocharger. Power adders are NOT cheating, especially on the street. Run what you brung and all that. I'm closing this thread because it's a waste of time to argue and eventually someone will say something bad.

Also: top fuel uses nitromethane