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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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2000 cobra gets taken down by 1982 camaro

hello everybody. i just got my 1982 camaro my 3rd gen at last weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. heres how it went down. me and my friends where at the car show on friday night (this show happens every friday and where usually there). i see a nice shinny cobra pull into the show i stay put with my pals .the driver gets out and i can see that this is his first time in the show so i go to talk to him.i say "hey hows that 289 treating u " he says "whats a 289" i say its the size of ur motor . hey says "no my motors a v8" and he says all this with that im a rich ******* tone u all know the one. so the car shows at a end and i get on east 96 to go to my friends house and i see him about 4 cars back acting like a *** passing people and such he gets up to where im at (thank *** a red light yes).so now where lined up and just to make sure he races i roll down my window and say so hows that 289 treating (he just shook his head ).light turns green and i take off burning up my tires (he was to) i grabbed traction and he had no chance i took it up to about 125mph and slowed down so im cruise for about 1min and here he comes full speed wright by my car.some one should had told him he lost and the race was over well to bad. by the way my new 1982 camaro looks like a p.o.s its brown primer so he was thinking easy kill (wrong)
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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No 2000 Cobra...

It isnt a 289, its a 281...

What mods do you have?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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no such thing as a 2000 cobra...
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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"It isn't a 289, its a 281"

281 are just remakes of 289s more or less.



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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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what the hell are you doin going 125 on the street. you my friend are a dumbass
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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hahahahaha

Originally posted by jocww
what the hell are you doin going 125 on the street. you my friend are a dumbass
east 96 6 lanes non-residential area no danger to innocents or i would not have done it i don't street race this guy was asking for it. as wel as all the traffic was behind us besides i stop at 125 mph he went to about 160+


i dont need to here ur bashing so back off .
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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"no such thing as a 2000 cobra"


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=200...angcobrar.html


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=200...obrarspec.html


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=200...ustang+Cobra+R



u can check out these websites on that car they didnt make
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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yep, our friends are a little misguided... no such thing as a 2002 Cobra... 2000 cobras had a snafu with their computers or something making them slow as ***** (ha, yeah it was the computer, riiigght) and were refitted with 99 computers and recalled for that reason or some BS.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by 1981z28

375 camel hump heads (roller)
What casting # are the heads?
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by 1981z28
"no such thing as a 2000 cobra"

...u can check out these websites on that car they didnt make
You do realize there is a difference between a Cobra and a Cobra R right?

Try this. You may learn something.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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281 are just remakes of 289s more or less.

Umm,.....................no. The 289 and the 4.6 (281) are totally different motors.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by 1981z28
"no such thing as a 2000 cobra"


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=200...angcobrar.html


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=200...obrarspec.html


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=200...ustang+Cobra+R



u can check out these websites on that car they didnt make
You my friend are dumb, yes there wer 300 Cobra Rs built in 2000, but no actualy Cobras. You did NOT race a Cobra R.

The 281 is in no way shape or form, anything like a 289 at all. They have not one thing in common minus the same amount of cylinders!

I know more about Mustangs in my left hand then you ever will, the Cobra R is a special model, you arent racing one anytime soon!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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here is alittle engine knowledge,,,

289= a 1 cam pushrod engine....

281= a 2 or 4 cam modular engine....


Other than being an ENGINE I see nothing the same...

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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You my friend are dumb,
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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ok

i dont really know a lot about fords it could have been a newer or older cobra. but y am i getting bad feed back i was under the impression that killling a cobra with a 1982 camaro is a good thing.

i did not make this post for bashing reasons.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Re: ok

Originally posted by 1981z28
i dont really know a lot about fords it could have been a newer or older cobra. but y am i getting bad feed back i was under the impression that killling a cobra with a 1982 camaro is a good thing.

i did not make this post for bashing reasons.
I never intended to bash you, just correct you, and then you came back with your last post! Well I did know about the 2000 Cobra R, but in 2000 there was no Cobra you raced.

I like to know facts about races, and when some are vague (like your mods) and some are wrong, I like to find out the right info!

And for the record 289 and 281 are nothing alike (in case anyone STILL thinks they are).
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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What HP are you putting out?
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by 1981z28
i dont really know a lot about fords it could have been a newer or older cobra. but y am i getting bad feed back i was under the impression that killling a cobra with a 1982 camaro is a good thing.

i did not make this post for bashing reasons.
Nice kill...how about changing your avatar...its stupid and offensive. Why is it every newbie has to have that avatar?
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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sorry

i got some more info on the car.i went down to the radio station witch put on the car show . i got a list of the new cars that where just entered last friday and there was a 1998 cobra on the list.the radio station will not release any personal info but they hand out a lot of car list to the public just so they can have a ideal on what they might see at the show.

and heres what he has
1998 mustang cobra svt
red with black int.
v8

thats all the info on his car that i can get until friday.

and im not sure what power this 1982 pushes i just got it .

im guessing maybe 425hp-465hp 430ft.lbs-480ft.lbs

i have yet to dyno it.

i hope this helps



:lala: :lala: :lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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No 2000 Cobra? Come down to MD sometime... I'll show you one on my dealers lot for sale.

I've done several rear knuckle recalls on them, they DO exist.

No 2000 Cobra. Internet myth...
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by 1981z28
"It isn't a 289, its a 281"

281 are just remakes of 289s more or less.



They are not even the same type of engine!!

A 289 is a single cam pushrod motor that was the motor BEFORE the 302.

A 281 is a modular motor in either single overhead cam or duel overhead cam design

they don't even look the same

engine on left is a 281, engine on right a 302 (which is the same as a 289)
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
No 2000 Cobra? Come down to MD sometime... I'll show you one on my dealers lot for sale.

I've done several rear knuckle recalls on them, they DO exist.

No 2000 Cobra. Internet myth...


Oh geez... stop it... please, you're gonna make me run to the can... Call Ford and tell them someone snuck out one while they were working on the 'performance packages' for the '99's. The whole time they were trying to avoid a class action suit the likes of the ZR-1, someone must have snuck one out of the damn factory. Man 1 of 1 produced. I gotta see this. Why don't you post up the vin, I'll run it, and if it comes up as a 2000 Cobra (not Cobra R - two different vehicles) I'll fly with cash in hand to buy it off the lot.

G<x>od, and all this time Ford has been telling people that they never made one. Just like the 350 w/ the stick right? And you think all the 94-up Cobras had the 4.slow modular motor in them as well right?

Maybe someone should go to carsdirect, edmunds and the like and tell them to start listing them and making up some figures so I know what it's worth after I buy it. G<x>od, the ignorance that is perpetuated on this board sometimes...
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Thanks 5L5, and as far as the 2000 either it was called a 2000 by accident, a marketing ploy or some odd reason, but in the registrys there are no 2000s!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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MIKE!! You have an '85 with the T-tops?? How are they holding up. Have the infamous leaking??
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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I did hear the rumor that there were a few 2000 Cobra's that snuck out as late production '99's. They were the first to feature "COBRA" on the rear bumper since the '99 reskin. There were a few pre-production cars made and given to magazines to test. Not sure where these cars are now, but i have heard a few times that several hundred 2000 Cobras were made and sold to "somebody". Even if this was true, the people holding onto these cars should know that they have a rare car.

Of course, those were rumors. If someone were to ask me, i would tell them no 2000 Cobra was made. All the production numbers i see skip the 2000 model year except for the 300 R's


As for the deal with the 2002's. Remember the 2003 Cobra was a VERY early 2003 model. It came out summer of 2002. Normally the SVT cars come out in March of the model year, so a 2002 Cobra would have been march of 2002. Instead, Ford held them back til June or July and released them as 2003 Models.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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MIKE!! You have an '85 with the T-tops?? How are they holding up. Have the infamous leaking??
Nope, no leaks. The car does only have 50,000 miles so that might have something to do with it. The car is stiff as hell too which is unheard of for a T-topped Fox body.

No pics though, i have the car completely apart and am working on a mild 306 for it and basically redoing EVERYTHING over. Keeping the exterior and interior stock looking, but under the hood will be a totally different story.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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I had heard the same thing, but when you pop through the combo in the registry database not a thing comes up in the 48. Either Ford re-titled them as 99's or they were never titled at all. :shrug: AFAIK none ever hit a dealership, and if I had one it would be stored nicey-nice somewhere to fetch me a pretty penny or two in about 10 years.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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http://www.stangnet.com/specs/cobra2000.html
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/00/

oh, look. SVT's site and their archives of vehicles....
http://www.svt.ford.com/svtArchive.asp

I don't see a 2000 Cobra
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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98 Cobra huh? If that is What you raced than I think it is the 281 DOCH motor. NO supercharger. I think they had 305 HP stock.

Isn't the old NA DOHC cobra motor what the Mach1 has now?

Anyway, Nice kill, Gotta love the sleepers.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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THANKS

it may have been supercharged i dont know. i could not hear it over my car.

i have to sleepers a 1970 c10 chevy pick up. and a 1982 v6 to 400 small block. my 1981 z28 is in mint so its not a sleeper
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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So I didn't perform any recalls on the 2000 Cobras?

Do a search on the net for FoMoCo recall 01S15. I cut and pasted the top portion of Ford's dealer release info from the fmcdealer.com site.

"April 2001

To:
All Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealers

Subject:
Safety Recall 01S15 - Certain 1999 and 2000 Model Year SVT Mustang Cobra and Certain 2000 Model Year SVT Mustang Cobra R Vehicles - Rear Knuckle Replacement

REF #1: Dealer Announcement dated May 10, 1999: Low Volume Recalls and Owner Notification Programs

REF #2: Dealer Announcement dated December 17, 1998: Lincoln Commitment Special Handling Procedure

AFFECTED VEHICLES

Certain 1999 and 2000 model year SVT Mustang Cobra and certain 2000 model year SVT Mustang Cobra R vehicles built at the Dearborn Assembly Plant from Job #1, 1999 through August 28, 2000.

SAFETY CONCERN

Under very aggressive driving cycles, the ball joint assembly in the rear suspension knuckle may be displaced out of its installed position in the knuckle boss potentially fracturing the knuckle. A fractured knuckle may cause the suspension to contact the rear wheel and affect steering control. "


No editing was done. I can post a link to the .pdf file, but I'd have to DL it and host it since the fmcdealer site is password protected.

Note the several mentionings of the 2000 Cobra, specifically the Cobra, and the Cobra R separate. Release date is at the top. Don't you think by April of 2001 Ford would know if they had produced any 2000s or not?

The affected vehicles were built through late August of 99. Late August of 99 would have been WEEKS into the 2000 model year BTW.

I'll check back into my repair order records. I'm sure I can find the VIN of the 2000 Cobras I've worked on. It may take some time to track my records down however...
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by GASGZLR
Isn't the old NA DOHC cobra motor what the Mach1 has now?
Same motor being a 4.6L DOHC N/A, but different changes were made. The Mach 1 motor is an '03 Cobra motor minus the blower. The heads are new, cam specs, etc.

The new Mach 1 would rape a 96-98 Cobra.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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WTF is this a Fox body site? Enough already, he beat something.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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I think Ford does that just in case... there was no model year listed for 2000 on Cobras minus the Cobra Rs. Maybe a few were made to be the model year 2000 but I have never seen or heard of a 2000...

And no this isnt a fox body site, thats why we are talking about the newer cars (fox bodies are older Mustangs).
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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WTF is this a Fox body site? Enough already, he beat something.
No, but a few of us own more than one car. I have 2 SVT products (allegedly- unsure on the SHO) out in the driveway now, so I have a few insights. I also have a y-body and f-body. It's just good to hash out what the kid beat and what he has. The thing is if you have a sleeper you tend to win a tad more because no-one is expecting it, like the v-8 SHO's.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
...I'll check back into my repair order records. I'm sure I can find the VIN of the 2000 Cobras I've worked on. It may take some time to track my records down however...
Why not just post the VIN to the one on the lot, it would take a lot less time than searching through records and give us a chance to try and track it down.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Red Devil
Why not just post the VIN to the one on the lot, it would take a lot less time than searching through records and give us a chance to try and track it down.
I'll see if I can do that this weekend. Our dealer has several satellite used car lots, the one in question being 25 miles from the main lot which I work at.
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