I like reading this board so i thought i would post my first race. I just got this Iroc 2 weeks ago and it has no mods except possibly a free flow muffler(sounds awesome) + 119k miles. I was coming home on the highway that i drive everynight (I-25) and a late 90's GT Stang pulls up next to me and proceeds to give it the gas and take off. I waited till we were outside of town and caught up to him. The speed limit is 75 so we were doing about 80-85. Right as I got up to his left side he nailed it. he had about a car length before I nailed it and before we were at 100 I was about 1 length in front. We did this on and off when no cars were around for about 30 miles. At one point when we had passed some cars and had some distance between us (me in fornt) He came flying up on my right and had some good speed on me. I nailed it and when he was right at my taillights and he could'nt pass me. I let off at 130mph. I was actually really suprised that the Stang couldnt pass me. I thought they had more touque than that. we finally got a good side by side jump at about 90 and he could'nt hang my Iroc had way more power at that speed. You could visually see the jump I got when we hit it. When I had to get off at my exit I turned on my interior light and gave him a thumbs up for the race and he would'nt even acknowledge me(poor sport),but regarless I was extremely happy with the performance of my new ride.

nice kill down with the mustangs

camaro > mustangs

nice kill.........if its a 99 + stang i wouldnt go from a roll.

Those older stangs are hard to tell if they are fast or not. Some look fast but arent and then there are ratty looking 11 second cars. Couple of older stangs at the track last night running into the 13's with minor bolt ons and one 80's cobra running mid 14 teens. He did run a 15 but missed 3rd twice. Those newer 99+ stangs are nothing to mess with. Some running 13.8's with exhaust. not bad.

Nice kill!

Good Kill, Now do some bolt ons on your 90 Iroc and you could esily hit high 13s. Your car is a mid to low 14 sec car right now (if its in good running cond) Its easy to get a L98 in the high 13s to mid 13s. Below the mid 13s then you need to do some serios work, hope it helps

Right on! I hit 14.019 with just headers/exhaust, and adjustable shocks on street tires with my new tranny with 2800 stall.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=252661

Doing 130 mph, I would say it's the hp coming into play wouldn't you? If he couldn't pull on you then both of your cars must have been pretty evenly matched hp wise. Good run, and good luck with the new ride.

Nice kill...

was it a 96-98 or a 99+. If it was a 99+ it is even better as they are usually mid to low 14 second cars with some into the 13s untouched. If its a 96-98 not taking anything away, still a nice kill!

Down with Mustangs!

Uh....there is no such thing as an 80's Cobra...as far as I know the SVT Cobra package started in 93.

Is it just me, or are thirdgen.org members VERY insecure when it comes to mustangs??? Look at the amount of "I killed a mustang!!" or "raped a stang!" threads on this forum, its kinda amusing. Go to a mustang related web forum, such as www.corral.net, and you will not see so much as a single post that says "YES!! Whooped up on a thirdgen!." Why?? Because they aren't insecure and they don't care!! Its starting to get real old. I used to be the same way until I realized that talking smack about another car without any real knowledge of it is just being IGNORANT. So I went out and bought a mustang and I love it. Almost as much as I love my firebird....

at those speeds it was more of a hp and rear gear thing . not so much a ft.lbs thing

Well put i have nothing but respect for mustangs id love to own one

Still it is always nice to hear about a 3rd gen going against a newer car Mustang or not nice kill enjoy the car!

beat a 97 gt in my dads 02 z71 tahoe from a idle roll i got the jump and i kept the 1 car length till 40 when i shut down wouldnt even look at me
jon

ChrisFormula355 - So, you are totally oblivious to the decades old battle of the pony cars? Come one, it's classic, go to a drag race, everyone loves to see Mustangs vs. Camaro/Firebird.

You don't see any, I killed a T/A or a Z28 or SS or IROC or GTA on Mustang sites because they get their butt's kicked by them, Ricers are their targets.

Just so you know I've had 4 Mustangs, but, I love my GTA it is low, mean and fast!

Ok now lets not have anybody get they're panties all in a bunch. I too have personally owned a 65, 66, 69 fastback and an 84 SVO. I like the Mustangs too. Second when I said that I was supprised that the Stang could'nt pass me it was because he already had a huge speed jump on me from behind, but he never got past a nose to nose before I pulled away from him. I am not sure on what year it was. The only thing I could see for sure were the chrome exhaust tips and the Cobra's on the door (it was also 1:30 am and at our slowest we were at about 70 MPH on the highway). It was at least a 95 or newer because of the taillight design. Other than that I cant say. I just thought it was a amusing story to share. Finally let us all get on the same page. Mustangs and Camaros have been the ultimate American muscle car battle since 1967 when the Camaro was introduced as Chevrolets answer to their rivals at Ford. There's alot of history there so lets put that into perspective.

As a side note Ford has used Cobra since about day One. first Off was the Shelby Cars. My 69 had the 427 Cobra Jet. In the late 70's early 80"s they had the Cobra's also known as the Mustang II's They had dual strips over the top of the car and big cobra decals on the doors. My friend had one in high school. Last and certainly not least lets not forget about Fords role in the AC Cobras with the awsome 427 and 429 Cobra Jets The fastest American production car built until it finally taken down by the 1984 Calloway Corvette. I am certain that Orr89RocZ was referencing the Mustang II's that had a very short life span before the introduction of the new body style in 1982

Who's your daddy :hail: :hail:


Just kidding ChrisFormula355. Most people have totally forgotten about those early years so don't feel bad.

Uhm actually you are dead wrong, thirdgen.org ignorance at its best once again. A good number of mustangs on that website run between 12's and 10s, so bragging about beating some 15 second thirdgens is lame, mostly, they talk about competing against LS1s with NEAR STOCK LX 5.0's with minor mods.

Actually, you are also wrong. The introduction of the new body style was in 1979, NOT 1982 like you said, and was based on the Fairmont intermediate-sized platform with MacPherson-struts in front and a live rear axle. Although larger than the Mustang II it weighed less. Ford offered two performance options—a 302 2bbl and a turbocharged 2.3L four cylinder.

Between 1979, the first year of the Fox body mustang, and 1993, the last year, the ONLY Cobra packages produced was the 1993 Cobra, and Cobra R. The Cobra R model was made with deleted A/C, backseat and better suspension, but only 107 were produced so most references to 93 Cobra's are to the regular Cobra model.

So once again, I repeat myself, there is no such thing as a mid 80's Cobra.

You sir, have just been OWNED! :hail: :hail: :hail:

I was just informed by the Mustang freaks here (I work in a Mustang lover's company) that the Cobra name was officially dropped 1984-1992. The early 80's/late 70's Cobras were called "Cobra II" and "King Cobra"... which according to them, sucked bawls.

Researching myself, it seems they started the GT in 1982, ending the Cobra. And they were ugly as hell anyway.


Hey, I'm off probation.

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...istory-3.shtml

Actually they say there was a 1980-81 cobra with 255 ci v-8.

But anyway, the one I saw was indeed a 93 cobra and not 80's. Sorry about that, they just looked the same in 88 to 93. It had a cobra intake and I put one and one together and got 3. It had a cowl hood and different rims so I wasnt sure.

ah hate to break it to ya Chris but not all third gens are 15 sec cars Herd of a L98 or a Firehawk, 89th TTA anniversay Those are 14 or 13 sec cars

who cares
you won the race good job everyone else get over it

Read his sig.

Hate to break it to you but the vast majority of the cars on this site run 15's or slower. Later year L98s, firehawks, and TTA are in the minority. On the other hand on the corral website 14s and 13s are the norm for a near stock 5.0 5 speed stang, which is the more common of the mustang varieties.

BTW- No thirdgen I've ever owned has stayed slower than 14s so I'm not biased, but I know what it takes to put them in the 14s or quicker, and thats always means NOT STOCK unless you are dealing with one of the aforementioned cars.

Do you have any mods or timeslips...

I know what it takes to go mid 12s on a fox body, and the sad truth, it was NOT a lot. Im a poor 19 year old having fun with his first car, and look, it got me mid 12s!

I don't have a scanner, but I have a pile of timeslips, all done at 3050 feet altitude.

I bought the car with clogged cats, bald tires, and a flowmaster muffler.. it ran 15.3 @ 90.

Gutted cats and better tires: 14.9 @ 92.

Catback system: 14.89

SLP headers and A/C delete: 14.7

Shift kit and rear suspension mods: 14.5

Running in winter: 14.3 <-- personal best.

I'm going to the track in a few hours to try out the Firehawk tires, Stealth Ram, and 150 shot. I'm predicting 12.5 @ 110 based off other cars I've hung with on the street.

Click on the link in my sig to see the extensive list of mods.

latyer yr L98s?huh? The early ones are mid to high 14 sec cars. Yeah one magazin put it in 15.3 on 87 L98 but you kno most Magazines are BS. YOur rite most are 15s and + like the 305s , 2.8s 3.1s Iron dukes all that stuff. But thirdgens are underated imo. Give them credit for there time

LB9
L98
LC2

The 3 I would gove credit too!

9 times out of 10, any thirdgen I find cruising the local drag on a friday or saturday night is NOT a later year L98, LB9 5 speed or L69. Those aren't even close to as common as the 5 speed 5.0 stang variety.


Now what you WILL see on most occasions is a ratted out L03/auto Formula, a peanut cammed 305TPI/auto Iroc, or on a rare occasion, a peanut cammed 305 TPI 5 speed car. The decently cammed 305 TPI and G92 350 cars are VERY scarce, and that is the reason thirdgens for the most part are ill-represented.

And I stand by my "later year" L98 comment. The late 80s L98s were dogs. I know of at least 4 here in Tucson that were somewhat decently tuned and not high mileage dogs that couldn't go lower than 15.4 at the track. Seems like too much of a coincidence to me.

That doesn't mean much. '93 Cobra parts are so plentiful that there are tons of stangs running around with '93 Cobra-spec parts on them. Slap a few cobras on and side and it's easy to confuse

I have a Cobra Intake and TB on my LX. '93 Cobra taillights, Cobra brake calipers. I always get asked "Is that a Cobra" by people when i pop the hood at a gas station to check oil. It's not even a GT which would at least look somewhat like a Cobra.

As for Cobras.

This is a '79 Mustang Cobra. Yes, this is a legit model from Ford. The CObra was a 79-80 option. The only engine you could get for it was the turbocharged 2.3L engine. It featured the TRX suspension, a 4-speed and a graphics package. The '80 Cobra got recaro seats.


PS, that's an '84 SVO and an '85 GT

I don't know about that, seems a little harsh. I've seen quite a few board members running pretty good times with MAF cars. 14.7 give or take a tenth seems to be the norm. My old '89 L98 Iroc with 2.77's would run 14.50's all day and I never thought that it was anything special. I always thought mid to high 14's was pretty average for MAF L98 cars...

Hey isn't the altitude at like 3000 ft in Tucson? You know that track better than I do but 15.4 seems down right pathetic for an L98 car. I've seen automatic LB9 cars run faster than that...

I thought 427's were the side oilers and the cobra jets were 428's? The AC Cobras had either the 289 or a 427 side oiler, and had nothing to do with the mustang.

I dont know about the L98's in Tucson but mine is pretty fast for what it is. I havent been out to the track that much so havent seen any other L98 thirdgens run. I dont know of any other nice thirdgens in my area for that matter, especially with a 350 or the G92 305 tpi 5speeds. With minor mods to suspension, exhaust with headers and stock cat, worn street tires, 2800 stall with 2.77's, and 145K miles on the ticker. I ran 14.02 at 96mph. Not bad if you ask me. Must be the air or bad L98's.

All automatic 305TPI cars got the peanut cam, and all LB9/5spd cars got the "HO" cam as I call it---AKA the L98 cam.

Anyways, good info so far...most of it. I was considering buying an SVO a while back. I found one for just under $3k I believe but decided not to go with it. I wanted a V8, not a turbo 4 if I were to get a Mustang, though they were able to hang with the V8s..

HEY HEY...why you gotta dog the 305's....I ran my LG4 out of oil and it was still running 100 m.p.h. (est.)

No thats not true. I just owned an 85 305tpi/auto Iroc a few months back, and it DID have the L98 cam. 1985 was the only year that GM put the L98 cam into the 305/auto cars, as far as I know. The following years after it, all 305/auto cars got the peanut cam instead to lower emissions and such.

Also, Not all 305TPI/5speed cars got the L98 cam. In fact, if I'm remembering right, only the 87 5 speed irocs, and the 90-92 G92 option 5 speed cars got the L98 cam, all the other 305/ 5 speeds got the peanut cam. Not 100% sure on this but I've driven/owned quite a few thirdgens and I know for a fact that my 85/auto was the only 305/auto year that came with the "good" L98 cam, and my buddies 87 305tpi/5 speed iroc was the only 80's 305 TPI/ 5 speed iroc that came with the "good" cam as well.