there's a guy at work who keeps wanting to race me, he has a basicly stock 96 integra. the only thing done to it is he has some type of intake on it. i have an 88 iroc, 83k miles, basicly stock also. it has a rebuilt 700r4 with a shift kit, headers, flowmaster, and a new chip in it(like that when i bought it). i have no clue how i'd do against this guys car, what do you think? the only things i plan on doing to the car soon are putting a t-5 in it, redoing most of my suspention, and putting like 3.73's in the rear(and all the stuff that goes with that). how would my car compare to his then? any different really?

thanks all, i'm know my cars not super fast, and i don't really want to race him, or race period, i just want something thats fun to drive basicly. but i am curious how you all think i'd do against him. thanks again. i'm fairly new to all of this stuff, if you can't tell.

 

1996 Acura Integra GS-R 7.1 15.5

the gs-r is the fasted model they got for that year.

88 IROC M5,A4 LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 170@4000 255@2400 TBI 3.08 ---- 2.73 ----
88 IROC A4 LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 195@4000 295@2800 TPI ---- ---- 2.73 3.23
88 IROC M5 LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 220@4400 290@3200 TPI 3.08 3.45* ---- ----
88 IROC A4 L98 V8 9.3:1 5.7 (350) 230@4400 330@3200 TPI --
-- ---- 2.77*3.27*

if u have the tbi u will lose.

if u have a 305 tpi it will be close

and if u ave a 350tpi from dead stop u will kill him.

thats if its a gs-r if not the tbi ican win.i mean the base integra is a high 16 sec carand thats with a 5sp with a auto they go as high as 17s

 

thanks alot, yeah, i have a 350 tpi.

 

350 tpi with your mods will destroy them. I have killed a few 4bangers so far including a civic vtec which is like a integra. The gsr is bit quicker, but come on, 350 TPI is 14's . you will destroy him. Surprised that there was even doubt. LOL Where in PA are you?

 

i live near pottstown and boyertown, about an hour west and north from philly.

i thought i would beat him, but i really didn't know, like i said, i'm fairly new to all of this. lol.

 

At sea level, a good driver should be able to run a low 15, and high 14 if he's got better driving skills than Jesus Christ, or took his interior out or something.

 

so its pretty safe to say he wouldn't have a chance?

 

I don't know anything about how fast different Camaros are, if it's significantly faster than that, then 'yes,' the Integra doesn't have a chance.

 

If the times they listed are accurate, you will put a hurting on him. Stock your car would go mid to high 14s, take off a few tenths for your mods and you are low to mid 14s. 1 tenth of a second equals about 1 car legnth in the 1/4 mile.

 

safe to say if he only has a cold air intake u got him.

 

with those mods i would almost say high 13's if you know how to drive and can get traction. your car might not be the fastest but its not slow by any means, its enough car to take most imports that arn't extremely serious about street racing ( not trying to affend anyone dont wanna start that again.) but its okay to have some confidence in your car and i bet it sounds awesome :rockon:

 

No need to pussyfoot around the issue, you didn't say anything that wasn't completely true.

 

l98 will roast him

 

thanks guys. i'm getting my car back from the body shop tomorrow afternoon, i had alot of body work done and had it painted. i'll post lots of pictures of it tomorrow afternoon.

i plan on doing the rest of the mods to my car(t-5, suspention, and rear end rebuild plus 3.73's) as soon as i can get the parts together for the tranny, which is mainly waiting on me getting to a junk yard, and me finding a rebuilt t-5.

thanks again guys, you guys are cool.

 

foward to seeing it.

 

goodluck man

 

pics are up in the body and interior section now. off on sunday to the pick n pull for parts.

 

Orr89RocZ and stokedporcupine-are you guys anywhere near stroudsburg?

 

i am in Delmont/Greensburg area, bout a half hour from pittsburgh.

 

we should have a cruise somewhere...sometime

 

hey can a tpi 350 beat a stock mustang 5.0? Also what about a 92 super coupe

 

Depends on the 5.0. During the last few years of the L98 it was only a tick quicker than the mustang. Before that they were pretty much even.

 

ok mod for mod..dollar for dollar what is faster?

 

5.0 stang mod for mod, dollar for dollar. They got a good wieght advantage too.

 

hmm don't know how I feel about that! I'm thinking abou t getting an old datsun and putting the tpi set up in it...but a project for a later time

 

Why don't you just swap a turbo motor from one of the other turbo Z cars into it? My buddy did that and he runs high 12's at 110mph up here. His car is ugly as sin too, you'd never guess just by looking at it.

 

I already had a turbo z car(300zx)...they are extremely expensive and aren't set up for drag racing...a twin turbo engine cost like $1500...plus you need a complete one and tranny plus modifications when its all said and done I'd rather a cheap sbc.

I do know 2 guys personally that have the grand nat drivetrains in 240z's...they run 12s with a nissan rear end and no tuning...but for affordabilty I'm goin with sbc

 

$1,500 is expensive? A GSR motor is $3,000 and a Type R is like $4,000-$4,500, Thats sooo much. Stupid Honda. And ricers.

 

a ZZ4 can be had at less than 4 grand and will out run any of those motors and probly most turbo motors in a car like a datsun Z

 

Supercoupe a L98 will blow away. I have 2 friends with super coupes, one 5spd, one auto. A 5 spd will run low 15s, and an auto will run mid 15s.

 

L98 will smoke the 5.0 AOD.. 5.0 5 speed would be a race, but of course the L98 will win with its monster torque

 

stu

this is what you need if you wanna convert your n/a engine to a TT set-up:

TT Pistons & Rings
TT Under Piston Oil Jets (3)
TT Exhaust Valves (12) inconel
Turbo Oil Lines (3), Banjo Bolts(2) & 3way Connector (pass side engine block)
TT Oil Filter Bracket
TT Spark plugs (or appropriate plug)
TT Fuel rail and Injectors
TT Oil Pan (or add return pipes to NA)
TT O2 Sensors
3ft 9.5mm fuel hose (for turbo cool)
Turbochargers (2)
Turbine Housing Heat Shields (2)
TT Exhaust Manifolds (2)
TT Exhaust Manifold Heat Shields (2)
Precats (or downpipes) (2)
Midpipes (2)
TT AC Condenser
AC piping (from firewall forward)
Intake plumbing (20 pieces total)
Intercoolers & Mounting Brackets (2)
TT Radiator mounts
Oil Cooling Core & Hoses
TT Wiring Harness
Recirc Valves or BOVs
TT Flywheel (or equivalent)
TT Clutch (or equivalent)
TT Starter
TT coolant hoses
TT Fuel Pump & TT oil pump
TT ECU (or JWT POP & Jets)
TT Front Fascia (or aftermarket)
TT Radiator & Shroud

start to get the idea...aka cheaper to go sbc or hell even turbo buick

 

I'm sorry, what are you even talking about?

 

Okay, now I remember. Yeah, you can do it that way if you're stupid. Anyone with half a brain would just do a motor swap. I don't see what you're trying to convince me of here.

 

its not "Just" a motor swap! Its the differance of putting a ls1 in a car that originally came with a tpi...alot of nickel and dime parts....nothing is the same and nothing that came with the non-turbo can be re-used go over and ask the guys at the z forum...www.300zxclub.com see if they tell you any differant! why do you think the mass population o the z guys don't do it? After its all said and do it would be cheaper to just get a factory TT car! Now I'm sure we all "know" a guy who "knows" a guy that swapped in a TT motor( ) but in reality no one really bothers with such a swap!

ps and its not stupid to rebuild an used engine before you install it in your car...lol that way you its cheaper you don't have to pull the engine back out later and you know its done right..

you tell me....what would be better in a datsun a heavy iron block, 15 year old, 3 liter v6 that gets 23mpg in the highway or an newer, modern, cutting edge all aluminum 350 ls1 that gets 26 mpg on the highway and has aftermarket and tech support by companys that makes kits and manuals on installing the 350 in a datsun?

 

I never said that rebuilding a motor was a bad idea did I? Well, he's the only guy I know with a car like that, I thought it was a common thing to do. I don't see why it's not, it's the same car with two different trim levels, how hard could the swap be?

About the new cutting edge thing, are you suggesting that GNX owners should swap out their old, heavy, outdated turbo V6's for new cutting edge LS1's because there is tech support for the LS1? That's odd.

 

The ls1 is a better and more efficient engine than the lc2(3.8 turbo). The ls1 does far better on gas and everything you can do to a lc2 you can do to a ls1!! the gnx engine is nothing more the a grand nat engine with a few upgrade options...they are held in high regard because of their uniqueness and rarity...not so much because they are better...what do consider yourself defending...what is the point you are trying to make? Please explain how a vg30dett is better than a ls1?

ps most people don't race gnx's because they are worth more oem and not beat on just like any other collector car!

 

......too many arguements

 

Yeah, I don't know why this post keeps coming back. Everytime I see it, I keep thinking that it's a new one.

 

 

that pic reminds me of some people.....any way i can put that in my sig?

 

hilarious...but your point was made lol

 

So back to the original topic. Stoked, I'm curious if you ever kicked the **** out of that Integra or not.

-Steve

 

no, lol. never got a chance. he wouldn't race. i never expected us too, i was just curious how people thought it would turn out, since this guy talked alot of trash.

 

That doesn't suprise me, our cars seem to have a tendency to make people want to challenge us verbally, but very few ever wanna put their motor where their mouth's are.

 

I would, and did.

 

 

huh?

 

he would and did, put his motor where his mouth was, at least his would fit

 

lol