I have a 89' Iroc G92 it will be running stock.
car has TPI 305 w/ 5spd. oil cooler, dual cats, 3.45s, 16" wheels,
about 230 hp and 300 torque u know the deal.

Got challenged by a 80 Z28 all i know-
4 barrel, 350, turbo 400 tranny and 4.10 is the rear can i take it
he's saying Iroc's are pieces of ****.

I can run a 14.6 stock though the car takes a beating will he take me?

 

irocs arent pieces of ****

they arent the fastest things in the world but since you have the 5 speed you will have a better chance than someone with an auto and same car..

if you can make your shifts right you have a chance at taking him

but ,

what does his engine have ?
is it stock ?
or built?

 

I have no idea
one of the guys told me he said it was a piece of **** and wanted a race, ill give it on a track im figuring 1/8 would be mine but 1/4 might run me. It's probably worked.

 

its worth a try even if you loose just make sure you do it somewhere safe like the track or out in the country or desserted area...

 

Without knowing more specific details about your opponent, it is impossible to give you a guess on who would win.

 

yeh i know man i have no idea on what im gonna go against
and im in the country but the road here suck, ie mountains
watch this guys car pull up blower out the hood, fully cammed and ported, 4.10's suggest something or he could just suck at life.
I dont know thanx for the advice. I just like to be told my car sucks ballz

 

that would suck thats when you just put your tail between your legs and go home...LOL

hopefully its not all that thou and it turns out to be a good run

 

but whose to say its all stock

 

if he shows up with more than what you will be able to handle, you better ask for spots and the jump. LOL

I hear those 882's are pretty good heads. Those 80 z's will move pretty good.

 

882 heads arent very good at all

 

I know, LOL, but some have said otherwise

Hey werent all G92 cars in 1989 1LE's? If so, you got a rare car. 111 made according to this sites production numbers. LOL nice, keep that car clean.

 

oh i think i understand who .....

 

I say the IROC wins Better lookin lol, (2nd gens are ugly jmo) I dunno honestly with the 5 speed i think you got it if your a great shifter.

 

well u know its not stock the 1980 camaro only came with a 200th or a 350th .come to think of it i only remeber pontiacs and olds getting 400th.

well point is if he does not have a stock trans who knows what else he changed. u could be getting into some deep ****. i hope u win i like irocs just as much as i like my 2nd gen z28





1980 z28
u could get a 305 or a 350 both had 4v aka 4barrels


LG4/Z28 305 V-8 3.74 x 3.48 165 @ 4000 245 @ 2400 8.6:1 4V
LM1/Z28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 190 @ 4200 280 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V




axle ratio 2.56:1 3.42:1
3.08:1 these are what the z28s got stock
and they didnt come with 12 bolt rear ends they had ****ty 9 or 10 bolt rear ends.like i said theres no 400th option for the 1980 camaro.

 

lol.. well i gusse my 2nd gen has a axle change. the pervius onwer told me that it came stock. with the gm 12bolt and those gears. and i have a 350 tranny. and no motor yet. so i gusse my rear end is far from stock

 

G92's are really close to 1Le's they dont have the front brakes, they have A/C's and a radio. Some have fuel baffles personally i prefer my car it 1 in about 500.

 

well its not stock. the lowest gear u could get with a stock 2nd gen was a 3.73 and only in the 78 and 79


882s are a good set of light weght heads .i got my 882s modded pretty good and they work realy good. i mean the gm head gudie had this in it.

i mean sure it looks like crap when come pared to after market heads but for a stock set there pretty good.


Standing 1/4 mile: 16.4 sec. @ 86 mph heres the 1980 camaro z28 4sp 1\4 mile time. if it is all stock with the expion of the trans u will when or should when. Standing 1/4 mile: 16.09 sec. @ 84.6 mph heres the auto 1\4mile u probley wondering why there so close well the autos got 3.42s and the 4sps got 2.73s


good luck

 

76cc chambers aside (because they can be and usually are milled beyond just a simple true surface when rebuilt)

get rid of 9cc and you have a pretty friggin nice head

it is about average in the exhaust flow department, whereas both of these heads it is compared to are considered strong exhaust flow heads.

here is a flow chart, I cut off the exhaust side because it is not as important in my example here as the intake. being that if you dont like the exhaust flow anyone can perform a basic clean up of the exaust port and improve the flow there. also a split duration cam can improve any shortfall on most street motors.

 

hey check this out ....https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...&highlight=882

 

Also TRW and many piston manufacturers made pistons with what you could call a "baby" or "street" dome. they were made with only about a .100-.240 inch dome to help fix the problems with large chamber heads by improving the compression as well as the quench. for example TRW lists compression for the .100" dome in a 76cc chamber as 9.3:1 and with a .220" dome as 10.2:1

in otherwords, if his engine were maybe "rebuilt" with what old guys would call an "RV cam" which to us means say like a comp extreme energy series 268 hydraulic flat. with slightly milled heads, a valve job and cast baby dome pistons. he will probably eat your lunch.

also consider, why does he need a 400? in 1980 that car came only with a th350, a th350 built with a rebuild kit from napa can survive motors making 500 horsepower and 500 ft pounds. even if a loser built his old th350 it would hold 300 to 400 horse power. so chances are if he switched to a 400 trans he probably needed it or atleast thought he did which means he probably doesnt have a very "stock" 350.

let us know how it works out

 

No they don't, even with the 350. Back in 97 when I first bought my car, I ran my fathers 79 Z28 with the 4bbl 350, which he bought new. I good condition, he beat my stock, out of tune LG4 car with 3.08 gears and an inexperienced driver by a car length to 70 or 80. After thoroughly going over my car and making some repairs and tuning it, I beat him by several cars to 100.

The late second gens are the slowest of the V8 F-body crowd. Imagine that... a late second gen owner calling IROCs crap The 350 only put out around 180HP, while the 305 was much less at around 140HP. Combine that with a soft leaf spring rear suspension, crappy tires, and some serious weight (3800 lbs+), and they didn't have much acceleration to offer. If the engine is anywhere near stock, he won't put up much of a fight.

 

I know 882's suck because of the large chambers. I know 73 on camaros sucked. My post was hinting at something else. I should have put LOL or j/k cuz it was sarcarism. I put a smilie face instead. my bad.

A little bit of work on them could get flow about 210-220 cfm and it would be great to lose about 18 cc's chamber volume!!! LOL, flow matches l98 vette heads, but added compression from the 58 cc chamber helps build more power. higher compression on those heads will be good, but your not running high compression. So those heads are not good, especially on a 383 as yours with that cam. That thing is choking and new heads with bigger intake port, chamber size, and better flow numbers will gain you lots of power!

 

i will kick it up to 10:25:1 ,10:5:1 , 11:1 these should kick the power on up. i will start safeing some fun money up i and i might just do that.

 

12 bolts, while rare, were available in early second gens. The lowest you could get was a 4.56 (Copo and some Yenkos and such) gear. Later second gens (atleast 78) and all second gens without the 12 bolt had the 8.5 10 bolt.

 

Those are in the 70-72 camaro's right? Please dont tell me they made a Copo/Yenko smogged out mid 70's camaro.

What, they drop in a 350 with more than 220 hp? LOL

 

There was a Yenko camaro with the 78 thru 81 bodystyle. Not sure of the exact year.

 

Yes, now i remember. They did make a turbo z. Very Tight engine bay, with turbo charger and different ground effects. LOL, the thing didnt look real good IMO. The body lines were sharper and more angular than stock.

 

1981 Yenko Turbo Z History

This Camaro was the last attempt by Don Yenko to build the ultimate performance car, with the added feature of comfort. The cars were fully optioned and came in Stage I and Stage II.

These were Don Yenko's own words:

From a performance standpoint, cars have shown a slow but steady decline in the last ten years. Low compression engines to accommodate low octane fuel, are now the norm. Ever-increasing numbers of emissions controls have sapped their share of horsepower from once potent engines. To recover these accumulated horsepower losses without increasing pollution presents a real challenge. After months of testing and development we have done it.

Working closely with some competent people at Turbo International a system emerged that does everything we hoped for. This system, like all others, captures the energy to improve the induction of fuel/air mixture. The similarity to the other systems stops right here. Our system uses no priority valve so there's no turbo-lag. We don't have a waste gate to malfunction either. And since all of the fuel entering the engine is "processed" through the turbo, you get better fuel economy and improved response even without being in boost. Every nut, bolt and fitting used in this system is the best available. This has all been developed with each and every emission control connected and functional.

 

u were right i saw it last night

1980 Z-28 yellow w/ black interior. 4.10's in the rear, mickey thompson's tires, chrome rims, wing in the back, ram air hood, quad turbo 350 w/ ibelieve it was a demon 4barrel completley insane car i refuse to race ill get run off the road. car has to be making 800 horse easy

 

800??.... wow whats his setup. or what demon carb is he using to push 800hp N/A, i want one

 

The turbo z is only a single turbo i believe. I seen it once and there is no room for more turbos. It has to be the tightest engine bay ever, even less room than Ls1 fbody's.

 

I doubt it had 4 (quad does mean 4) turbos. I see two as a possibility.

 

do explain the whole quad turbo thing

 

i didn't ask he didn't know who i was so all i saw is what could be seen (he was in advance auto), the wheel wells were for the most part completely cut out,
fully built 350, demon carb u have me on the #, i think i counted four turbochargers all wired and piped in, direct cut from the headers, decent heads i saw two wastegates and a **** load of wiring. no a/c, the car was functional ram air. and most of the original parts i remeber seeing on 81 Z-28 weren't there.
the motor was ****in beautiful but the car was overdone. To much underbody lighting and ***** type ****, the guy was older maybe late 20's early 30's , i have to go im getting bitched at retaking Sat's tommorrow finish tommorrow night.

oh yeah nightrider tell the 3goer's im done with them.

 

Incase the whole quad turbo thing went over your heads guys...

he's a super troll and lies about everything...been our entertainment over on 3GO for a couple days but apparently he's leaving

 

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are u sure it was no two big *** turbos.they make a twin turbo set up that the turbos are so big u would swer there where 4

 

In Reality 1980 z28's are my favorite body style but the lackluster 3500 pound curb weight and 190hp 350 im quite shure your IROC will win.Now on to the 822 discusion ive found that my heads will flow becuase of my pistons as in the link abovei thought they hwere dished i was told that but ive found they are just very low flatops and thta my compression is a 9:1 and that the car will win against losts of other cars regardless of my lack of a built tranny and my lack of heads take for instince i put down a lot of power. im not saying its a ****ing monster but it did beat a 2002 WS6 and that it beats tons upon tons of cars in my thred below i ran a IROC and 350Z and won by 3 1/2 cars! THen later i raced a prelude with a few mods and nitrous and beat dont dout these 882s or any car because the most basic "smoger 350" can sometimes take you

 

Since when do you "wire" turbos? lol.

 

when you're a troll lol :lala:

 

when i was refering to wiring i was refering to the controllers and yes there were four. nightrider- i didn't talk to him he was doing a oil change. Stop calling me a troll

 

on 3go you claim 400. Documented proof that visiting Thirdgen.org makes you lose 170 horsepower! jk but seriously, what happened to the 170 hp, I'm thinking you made them up. I also think you're making up this quad turbo 'maro. Edit: in reality as far as speed and handling goes, Irocs are not that high up there. They were good in their time but even the newest is 12 years old, alot of improvements and technology was discovered in that time. Lets keep this in mind, thirdgens are not the end all in performance, I know thats hard for some of us but they just aren't. Thats why the aftermarket was made.

 

why is it we end up with all these guys from the other sites that lie about everything to make them look big ???

are they 12 years old or something ?

there has been like 5 in the last month that have come on here and said how they have 500 hp or they know a guy that knows a guy that has 4 turbos on his car or has 3 turbos and a 200 hp shot of nitros...LMAO

where are all of you guys comming from this is getting funny to read ...LOL


hey you better hope he doesnt have those turbos wired for 16 volts or your screwed.....LMAO :lala:

 

Not necessarily my friend, if he mixes a little methanol into his blinker fluid it should be a close race.

 

The motor had 400 horse i just finished rebuilding it w/ the stock parts so i am allowed to drive it again. I kinda blew past my mom racing a STI on Rt. 715. (really ****ty highway) I wanted to know if the stock car could beat an 80' z-28. yes i know irocs aren't the best but they can still make some of the guys scared when u pull up to the line. because most people dont know what they make at the rear wheels all they see is the wheels spin and the front end come up a lil when the car lauches. Plus the car made one hell of a name for itself in the day and most guys that have heard of them are kinda of in disbelief i own one especial since i bought it when i was 15.

And no i did "make up" the 4t camaro

 

LMAO that is true i forgot about the methanol in the blinker fluid...LMAO


also dont forget that if he spins his tires in reverse to get them warm it will make the tread wear backwards in turn make it hook better in forward....LMAO

 

hey um guys as i siad the car is stock now alrighty, if u think thats a lie i can post pics probably & preferably within the next week so the motor's still shiny. man with a stock iroc i dont car if ur rich petty u try to spin rewverse u 1. stall the mother****er
2. kill ur car
3. that ain't funny

 

and what in the hell is blinker fluid. thats a new one to me lol

 

Edit: forgot text

Ok, you win, I bow down to your superior knowledge and shall be forever shamed by sullying your name. Learn to detect sarcasm though.

 

1. huh???
2. its a joke son a joke...LOL
3. yes it was...LOL

 

i know it was a joke, ive never even tried to spin em in reverse maybe when i take it out again, and though yes it was funny it sux that every joke is towards me. If u also wanna know theres a new Shelby Cobra 427 that's up by me along w/ a 71 Challenger, and some chevelles, and of course ur 60's, seventies, 80's camaros plus **** *** 3rd gen RallySports