ridecamro

ok i wsa talking to my friend and he was like yeah my civics pretty fast. so i said lets race sometime. and i'm just wonder who would win. i have a 84 z28 with a 350 4bbl q-jet basicly stock motor. t-5. and good tires. and he's ogt a lowered civic. and 20$ spark plugs. thinks it mkaes it go reall fast

nick418

does he have the 170hp VTEC motor? IF he does i think he maybe can take you... But if its a reg 4 banger, smoke his ***

PhAnToMs

iTrader: (2)

so you swapped the engine? do u know what it was from or anything?

1981z28

it would help to now what kind of 350 u have and what year


1967 camaro L48 350 295@4800 380@3200

1969 camaro
L65 350 250@4800 345@2800 9.0:1 LM1 350 255@4800 365@3200 9.0:1
L48 350 300@4800 380@3200


1970 camaro
L48 350 300@4800 380@3200
Z28 350 360@6000 380@4000


1971 Camaro
L48 350 270@4800 360@3200 8.5:1
Z28 350 330@5600 360@4000 9.0:1

1972 camaro
L65 350 165@4000 280@2400 8.5:1
L48 350 200@4400 300@2800
Z28 350 255@5600 280@4000 9.0:1

1973 Camaro
L65 350 145@4000 255@2400 8.5:1 L48 350 175@4000 270@2400 8.5:1
Z28 350 245@5200 280@4000 9.0:1

1974 camaro
L48 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 185 @ 4000 270 @ 2600 8.5:1 4V
Z-28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 245 @ 5200 280 @ 4000 9.0:1 4V


1975 camaro
L-65 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 145 @ 3800 250 @ 2200 8.5:1 2V
LM-1 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 155 @ 3800 250 @ 2400 8.5:1 4V

1976 camaro
LM-1 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 165 @ 3800 260 @ 2400 8.5:1 4V

1977 camaro

LM-1 350* V-8 4.00 x 3.48 160 @ 3800* 260 @ 2400* 8.5:1 4V
LM-1 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 170 @ 3800 270 @ 2400 8.5:1 4V
Z-28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 185 @ 4000 280 @ 2400 8.5:1 4V

1978 camaro

LM-1 350* V-8 4.00 x 3.48 160 @ 3800* 260 @ 2400* 8.2:1 4V
LM-1 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 170 @ 3800 270 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V
Z-28 350* V-8 4.00 x 3.48 175 @ 3800* 265 @ 2400* 8.2:1 4V
Z-28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 185 @ 4000 280 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V

1979
LM-1 350* V-8 4.00 x 3.48 165 @ 3800* 260 @ 2400* 8.2:1 4V
LM-1 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 170 @ 3800 270 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V
Z-28 350* V-8 4.00 x 3.48 170 @ 4000* 265 @ 2400* 8.2:1 4V
Z-28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 175 @ 4000 270 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V


1980 camaro
LM1/Z28 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 190 @ 4200 280 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V

1981 camaro
LM-1 350 V-8 4.00 x 3.48 175 @ 4000 275 @ 2400 8.2:1 4V

there i listed every carbed 350 a camaro ever had. if u pulled it out of a camaro witchone is it. i can not say who would win until knowing what u have under the hood.

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

jeeezzz 1981z28, you pull out the stats!!! Nomatter what thread it is, you always post info. good finds! Keeps us from looking LOL

Problem is it might not be a 350 from camaro. since its a 350, *** knows what car/year it came from!!!

stu

Chances are, if he really did spend $20 on spark plugs, he's clueless and isn't fast at all.

Oh yeah, theh Si vtec motor only makes 160hp. Like it matters.

1981z28

but most of the time i see vette and camaro 350s going into camaros .i hope he will tell us what it came out of so we will know who would win.

ridecamro

lol. i didn't do the engien swap. i bough it that way i still gotta find the specs on the block it's pre 85 block 2 pice man. weres the block number stamped

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

did you ever run the car at a track or do some stopwatch tests? LOL does it feel pretty strong?

1981z28

will be on the driver side at the back of the block

ridecamro

yeah it feels prety stong at least when my scondarys open i feel it pull really well. i need to adjust them to open a lil earlyer. and i'm gonna find the blocm number today

1981z28

someone did.

ridecamro

is the block number somewere near were it says 5.7l gm

Orr89RocZ

iTrader: (20)

Well if it feels decently strong, my guess is its atleast a mid 14 second ride. civic should be no prob

Good luck finding out what you got. LOL It sucks that you bought the car like that and have to find out whats in it but thats part of the fun. My guess is you got close to 250-300 hp.

1981z28

no.its right behide the back of ur intake on the driver side more then likely coverd in goo.

ridecamro

is it possible to get to it without jacking the car up

1981z28

its on the top of the motor

ridecamro

ok thank you very much. it was like 197-or l97 it is only 3 digits right

PhAnToMs

iTrader: (2)

here is where they are this should help alot

drivers side right near the firewall

ridecamro

ok time to lok again

ridecamro

hmm. thiers only3 numbers thier. thats on the drivers side on the dizzy and behind the intake. it just says 197

1981z28

PhAnToMs if i see that right then u have a L-48
3970010

wha year is it

ridecamro

hey i'm pos thats all thier is to say i cleaned it up and thats it

1981z28

there are no 350s that start with the numbers 197

ridecamro

yeah so i looked on mortec. it says 5.7l g on one ledge. the the next one up thiers a dot wiht a bunch ond lil dots around it then 197 and it looks to be screwed in.

PhAnToMs

iTrader: (2)

well its in a 84z28

where do i find the numbers to indentify what year it is and how much power it came with?



ride put some degreeser on there it didnt look like i had any numbers till i started scrubbing

ridecamro

yeah i already degressed it. but i found a bunch of numbers on the pass. side. could it be their

1981z28

i dont now i think all chevy small block casting numbers are on the back drivers side . but if there are 7 or 8 numbers then that might be them post those numbers.

ridecamro

ok i'm working on it the first 2 numbers are 14XXXXX looks to be 8 numbers. the 3rd looks to be an 0 2 or and 8

1981z28

140029.....350...80-84...2
14010201...305...80-85...2
14010202...305...80-85...2
14010203...305...80-85...2
14010207...350...80-85...2 or 4
14010209...350...80-85...2 or 4
14010280...267...79-82...2
14011064...350...83......4
14011148...350...87-89.......Roller cam, one-piece rear seal
14016376...267...79-82...2
14016379...350...77-79...2 or 4
14016381...305...80-84...2
14016382...305...79-84...2
14016383...305...80-85...2...Truck
14079287...350...86-90.......Truck
14088526...350...87-89.......Roller cam, one-piece rear seal
14088548...350...86-88...2 or 4
14088551...305...86-87...2...one-piece rear main seal
14093627...305...87-91...2...Roller cam, one-piece rear seal
14093638...350...87-95...2 or 4...Roller or flat tappet ca14094093...86-88...350 one-piece rear seal
14094766...305...86-up...2...One-piece rear seal
14011083...55-86...350..........Crate motor for years indicated.
285/300hp, 64cc chambers, 1.94"/1.5" valves

14019821...80-86...350
14019926...80-86...350
14010516...80-86...350
14020517...80......350
14020556...81......350
14022056...85......350
14022206...80......350
14024816...........350..........76cc chambers, 1.94/1.5 valves, Gen.I crate motors
14034808...80-86...350
14034808...96-up...350..........76cc chambers, 1.94"/1.5" valves, Gen.I Goodwrench crate motors
14034810...80-86...350..........Truck
14034811...80-86...350..........Truck
14071114...80-86...350
14075381...80-86...350..........Truck
14079261...86......350
14085844...80-86...350..........Truck
14085963...86......350
14088526...........350..........Gen.II, LT1, aluminum
14089119...86-88...350
14094093...86-88...350
14096217...55-86...350..........Crate motor, 285hp/300hp, 64cc chambers,
72' or 90' center intake manifold bolt angles

ridecamro

thank you very much. well. out of those. would it be easyer to tell if i would win. it's a 4 bolt main. thats what i know for sure. the guy told me and he gave me a recipt form the place who rebuilt it. it said sbc 350 4 bolt main. 1200 bucks. i'm giving up for tonight. i got school in the moring thanks alot, i really apreciate it

1981z28

prob

TBI92Camaro

Dude, you have a 350 4 bolt main (most likely out of a truck or Vette) and a 5 speed....and you are worrying if a Civic can take you? You should be guessing at how many cars you'll put on him lol. I only have an LO3 and I only get worried when the Honda has a turbo.....their saving grace

Oh yeah, I spent 25 dollars on my ACCEL plugs....next time Im gonna get some good Delcos though, not sure if these plugs make any kind of differance....I do know they are easy to find in the dark, glowin yellow

1981z28

plugs should make a small differnce the fire hotter then hell.

prOject-IrOc

i say the civic has you.

goodluck. what year Si are we talking about?

ridecamro

2000-2002 somthing in thier. i dunno doens't look like it but i'll find out tommarow hoefully

StevenK

iTrader: (1)

Get NGKs

stu

NOOO, those are Japanese and only r icers like me can use them.

1981z28

well msd can only be used by mullit haveing camaro driveing redneks like me.

stu

Ahh, damn, my MSD BTM is probably one of the main things keeping my motor together.

1981z28

i was just kidding man

Avenger007

wow now im interested in finding what engine this guys got. I hate wannabe ricers like this Si guy. Sounds like hes the kinda guy id run into saying stuff like "nice firebird" (to me) "thanks" "so watcha got in your honda?" "1000 hp." "oh really...so what kinda suspension you have that can support that power" "uhh its bolted right to the frame"
I just love guys that know their cars!

prOject-IrOc

if it's a 02, it's a K20...160hp motor. with a few bolt-ons these cars can be quick, but they're not much stock.

Air_Adam

Doesn't really matter if his 350 was out of a Camaro or not. Other than the LT1 and the early L82 engines, they are all the same basic smogger 170hp wonders. My 350 is from a '79 Z28, and its the same as anything you'd find in a Corvette, truck, Caprice....

And because his casting is an 010 block, doesn't mean its a L48 motor. Almost every non-roller 350 ever made was built from that block. It could have 140hp, or it could have 360hp. If you could get the numbers scribed into the pass side deck of the block, right above where the water pump bolts to the block on the pass side, then we could tell you what you have, or at least, what it was in.

1981z28

not to me i just want to know what it is.

.3970010 are L-48s the go from 190hp-360hp i had the 1970 L48 with 10.25.1 300hp and 380ft.lbs

Air_Adam

They are also LT-1, L82, DZ, LM-1, L83, and lots of others.

The L48 motor NEVER had 360hp. That was only the LT-1 derived engine for the Z28 in 1970. The real LT-1 was a Corvette engine, 370hp.

L48 was just one model (actually an RPO) of 350. The 010 block was used for almost EVERY different model of 350 in the late '60s to the end of the '70s, as well as for 327s and 302s in the late '60s.

3970010 is just one of the casting numbers GM used for their 4" bore, large journal 2 or 4 bolt main small blocks. These blocks were used for 302s, 327s and 350s. This is probably the most common block in existence.

If you don't beleive me, talk to RB83L69 or Five7kid, or better yet, take it to the Engine Swap or Tech/Gen Engine board.

I'm not trying to start a fight, I just want to get the correct info out there.

BTW - All I meant by the "doesnt matter if its out of a Camaro" comment was that after about '72 or '73, almost all 4bbl 350s were the same, even in RPO code, whether it was in a Camaro, Impala, truck, whatever. Even if it came out of an Impala or something, odds are its exactly the same as what I pulled out of that '79 Z28.

1981z28

theres nothing wrong with wanting to to get the right info out there. i was ure there was a 360hp l48 o well guess not .oo wait a sec that means i got the strongest model l-48 made
the c10 l48 in 1970 was the same as the l48 in the ss camaro .its a dam good motor


the l48 350\3970010 was only made 68-79 by my chevy casting numbers book.


heres a site http://www.v8s-series.freeservers.com/sbc.htm

maybe i need a updated book.

ljnowell

The 302 had another casting number too, though. My brother actually has one in his truck that the block casting comes back to 68-70? 302, 327, 350. Besides, unless you know the pistons type, head casting, and cam specs, nothing can really be derived from a casting #, except the diameter of the bore.

cgb

Why not try this...

Look on the FRONT of the engine...

PASSENGER side...on the engine block, the ledge right below where the cylinder heads meets the block...you'll find some letters / numbers...

This is the suffix code, and will tell you what the chassis / year the engine came in...

Then pop the valve covers and get the casting numbers of the heads....that'll help too...

PhAnToMs

iTrader: (2)

i dont know if this was directed at my or not but..
i got the early 80's heads on the 350 block the lg4 l69 heads.

i gotta check for the other numbers on the block