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Old 10-12-2004, 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by stu
NOOO, those are Japanese and only r icers like me can use them.
I run NGK's in my 'maro and it runs great

I love it when imports think they got more ballz than domestic muscle. Just because they weigh less doesn't make up for cubic inches.
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Originally posted by Slowmaro95
I run NGK's in my 'maro and it runs great

I love it when imports think they got more ballz than domestic muscle. Just because they weigh less doesn't make up for cubic inches.
seems like they never get any TORQUE
Old 10-12-2004, 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Slowmaro95
I run NGK's in my 'maro and it runs great

I love it when imports think they got more ballz than domestic muscle. Just because they weigh less doesn't make up for cubic inches.

Actually, weight is the ONLY thing that makes up for not having displacement. After all, the ONLY thing that really matters is power to weight ratio anyway. I was looking through an air-cooled Beetle magazine once, and read an article about one guys bug that was running a 10.6 with under 260hp. Let's face it, a 10.6 is a 10.6 and you don't see any American muscle running times like that with that little power. You don't even see any compacts running times like that with that little power.
Old 10-12-2004, 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by nick418
seems like they never get any TORQUE
Also true, except for DSMs and Subarus. And just about any car with more than 2.0 liters of displacement.
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Originally posted by stu
Also true, except for DSMs and Subarus. And just about any car with more than 2.0 liters of displacement.
i agree with you Stu. Ive seen these small lil weight cars runs 11s with just 240hp! I mean weight does play a big factor like you pointed out. But lets say you put american muscle in that light weight car and lets see what it runs then.. Would run better then a 240hp car with a 4 banger? Ah yeah


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They run with boost to make power. Most of them. All motor runs are real impressive but most have power adder.

So what about the weight issue. boost our cars and we can run same times LOL. Just makes more power. We got bigger engines that can haul around more weight. That advantage of more cubes means need to make more power to compensate for weight. So really, there is no excuse when it comes to what car runs what with what. LOL Understand what I am trying to say here? A small piece of apple compared to bigger apple, its still an apple. just size that matters.

Advantage of being light in the import world means smaller motor and hp limited. Big muscle cars are heavy but have large engines and make infinite power. LOL
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ya theres no replacement for displacement obviously but weight can undermine a powerful vehicle tremendously. Just look at the new lotus elise with its wimpy 200hp. seems slow but when you factor in a car that weighs next to nothing, you realize its 4.3 0-60 time is accomplished with little need for big power. However it all depends because I saw a 68 chevy SS with AC and all the bells and wistles and it weighed under 3000lbs WITH the driver. Combine that with the 600+HP it made. Power to weight is what its all about
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There were a few different blocks used for the 4" bore, large journal motors (302, 327, 350) but 010 is by far the most common. Thats the block I have, and prolly also the same block that 90% of the pre-roller 350 guys here at TGO have as well.

I got one of the worst L48 engines made. It runs well, but it was a dog at only 180hp. Its prolly got 220 now after minor bolt ons. I figure 220 because it can keep up with L98 cars pretty well.

But L48 is only an RPO code, just like LT-1, LM-1, L-82, L-83, L-88, LS-6, Z-28 (yes, in '67-69, this was actually just and engine RPO for the 302).... they are all just RPO codes.
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Re: civic si vs camaro

I have a 14010207 Casting 350 4 bolt
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Ce4115968 How much horse does it have????
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Re: civic si vs camaro

Holy f'in thread bump......wow......
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Bump.
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Re: civic si vs camaro

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Newbies
I'm sorry sir, but was that reply directed just to me, because I said bump and I'm new? Sorry that I've been out cruising and have never known about forums, what they are, or really even known how to use the Interwebz in the past. Or else I would of joined this forum 10 years ago, to satisfy you!
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Re: civic si vs camaro

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i dont know if this was directed at my or not but..
i got the early 80's heads on the 350 block the lg4 l69 heads.

i gotta check for the other numbers on the block

so you have 305 heads on a 350 engine?
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Re: civic si vs camaro

Originally Posted by Eternal Z
I'm sorry sir, but was that reply directed just to me, because I said bump and I'm new? Sorry that I've been out cruising and have never known about forums, what they are, or really even known how to use the Interwebz in the past. Or else I would of joined this forum 10 years ago, to satisfy you!
With a reply like that you're making a heck of first impression for being a new member. Keep up the good work

Actually the newbie comment was directed toward JaggedJames24 who managed to dig up this gem of a 5yr old thread. Guess the search function does work.
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Originally Posted by studdmstr
With a reply like that you're making a heck of first impression for being a new member. Keep up the good work

Actually the newbie comment was directed toward JaggedJames24 who managed to dig up this gem of a 5yr old thread. Guess the search function does work.
Well sorry for that, but that's just me, I thought you were implying it's bad in some way or another that I'm relatively new to this forum.

But FYI, not everyone just joining this forum in 2009 is going to be some clueless kid, new to American muscle cars. So greet them with a instead of That's just my 2 cents.
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Re: civic si vs camaro

You might have gotten a if you hadn't replied the way you did. FYI a lot of the members here are not just punk kids surfing the internet and a lot of us have many years experience with these cars so be respectful when responding, not like you have a chip on your shoulder.

Welcome by the way.

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Well, that's exactly what I'm saying, never know who's behind the computer or screen name, could be Tom Nelson himself from NRE. It just didn't seem very respectful in the first place to say "Newbies". Sorry for any confusion with that though.
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No I agree with you Eternal calling someone newbies for posting under the wrong thread is just being a A$$ I know very little about Third Gens that why I came to this web site hoping to get help not some smart A$$ 16 year old that thinks hes better then everyone else. So for now on I dont care what you have to say Studdmstr.


Thanks and have a Great Day......

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Old 08-13-2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JaggedJames24
No I agree with you Eternal calling someone newbies for posting under the wrong thread is just being a A$$ I know very little about Third Gens that why I came to this web site hoping to get help not some smart A$$ 16 year old that thinks hes better then everyone else. So for now on I dont care what you have to say Studdmstr.
Well jagged you're definitely off to a good start here. You weren't called a newbie for posting under the wrong thread, you were called a newbie for posting to a thread that has been dead for 5yrs. Before you go popping off you need to fully read all the responses to a thread and not assume that everyone here is a smart a$$ 16 year old.

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Well let me start out by apologizing. Not to you but everyone that has had to put up with you sence Sep 02'
When you call someone a Newbie it pisses them off "It's the same as calling them a Dumb ***" I bet you know a hell of alot about Third Gens but you need to learn to talk to people without insulting them. Treat them with the same respect you would want to be treated with. If I have insulted you in any way I Apologize
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JaggedJames24, you made a very good point, especially by apologizing to the people who have put up with him since 2002. But I think it's time we let this thread die again.

But like I said Studd, sorry for the confusion. I just really can't stand it when someone who doesn't have a clue who I am, tries to label or insult me, and that's what I thought was going on.
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Re: civic si vs camaro

Originally Posted by JaggedJames24
Well let me start out by apologizing. Not to you but everyone that has had to put up with you sence Sep 02'
When you call someone a Newbie it pisses them off "It's the same as calling them a Dumb ***" I bet you know a hell of alot about Third Gens but you need to learn to talk to people without insulting them. Treat them with the same respect you would want to be treated with. If I have insulted you in any way I Apologize
just remember the way you treat others is the sameway YOU will be treated.....
I accept your apology and catch you later newbie
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Originally Posted by JaggedJames24
Well let me start out by apologizing. Not to you but everyone that has had to put up with you sence Sep 02'
I would also like to apologize to everyone that has had to put up with studdmstr since 02'.
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