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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Another Camaro vs. Camaro

This one is gonna happen money's already been bet.......but i wanna know


My 89 Iroc TPI305 G92 w/ 5speed stock,

against a 91 LT1 stock. who will come out on top the highway, the 1/8 and the 1/4
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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91 camaro with LT1 motor? is that correct?

If so, then LT1 in every category.

How much did you bet? Hope it aint much! LOL
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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any way to cheat kick his ***

$100

im asking may be some headers exhaust work i have 1/2 year
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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uh, leave real early before the start of the race. LOL

Or run him off the road?
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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i heard TPI could take the LT1 on the 1/8
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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yep it sure can if driven right and was sitting on top of an L98
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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car stock has 230hp and 300 torque chevy did good by me, along 3.45 rears
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Yeah, thats about right. the G92 305 has good power and was on par with L98 back in the day but L98 has 230-245hp depending on year and 330-345lbft torque which goes along way in drag racing. Your car is quick but these L98's running low 14's can only hang with Lt1's for little while.

Lt1 has 275-285 hp depending if it is an SS or not. 6speed and 3.42's and your seeing 14 flats to high 13's. I have seen it many times before. Unless he launches bad and your launch is perfect, he will run you down.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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It be close with 1/8 and 1/4 Lt1 should win. If had a L98 be dif story
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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What about open highway he mentioned that 120- 160mph
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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hey

your gear is to low not to metion u dont have the hp to make it to 160mph .now the lt1 probley could.


ps.lt1 are top end monsters even if u could get to 160 he would be at home sleeping before u got there
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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ya you shouldnt of bet...

on the highway LT1 got great top end and will murder you up there since tpi doesnt have much of a top end power

off the line you could possibly get a 1/2 car or so off the line but he will just fly by you after that.

what are 305 tpi's like low 15s?
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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depending on the driver low 15s mid 14's then again my Friend has an 86 TPI 305 auto (its a piece of ****) and he runs 16's high 15's
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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how are the gears to low, if u calculate it at red line w/ the car is doing about 160mph, 157 technically. I though i read some where that after about 120-130 Third gen camaro intakes act like a N/A supercharger, boost is created just from the amount of air flow?
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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well

its like thsi to do 160 mph u whould need about 275hp+ and a 2.73 rear end 3.45's will not let u up to 160

Last edited by 1981z28; Oct 13, 2004 at 09:16 PM.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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3.45s just to be a dick
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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ok

didnt u say



, - im seventeen, got a 89' Iroc TPI 305 G92, pushing about 400 horse at the fly. 36347.1 miles, far from a rusted body. ......Just for props- but I aint allowed to drive by myself

ps one thing u willl learn fast is the members here dont like bs i learned it now u ned to.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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yeah your G92 305 with those gears is probly the quickest 305 car produced. Mid 14's is quite possible when driven good.

Lt1's are low low 14's to high 13's
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
yeah your G92 305 with those gears is probly the quickest 305 car produced. Mid 14's is quite possible when driven good.

Lt1's are low low 14's to high 13's
Id say your beat unless he has a manuel and had no idea how to shift. Nitrous is your best bet if u dont wanan lose this one
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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160mph?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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[i]O I though i read some where that after about 120-130 Third gen camaro intakes act like a N/A supercharger, boost is created just from the amount of air flow? [/B]
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, fast moving air doesn't equal compressed air, and even if it did, I doubt it'd be more than an 1/8th of a psi.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 02:33 AM
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Mcdamit, when is your mommy giving your keys back? Better hope she doesn't catch you racing again.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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ok

im not sure but he might be the reason iroc drivers have such a bad rep.





and ur car would be lucky to hit 130mph
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:39 AM
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Re: ok

Originally posted by 1981z28
im not sure but he might be the reason iroc drivers have such a bad rep.





and ur car would be lucky to hit 130mph
actually they did test a few 5 speed 305 TPI and they do hit a 145
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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i hit 130 no prob in my L98 with just catback at the time. 2.77 gears and lots more left. 145-150 would have been possible.


My friend owns a 00 WS6 ans he only hit 160.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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my mommy gave me my keys back just not my license plate. lol
and the motor was rebuilt stock, the race is w/ Fast_LT1_Z28.

I dont know how he drives but i need to start practicing lauching, he wants to run the quater mile. I dont want to run funny juice in my car, im figuring, headers, w/ cutaways then dual cats 3" piping and dual racing mufflers. "true dual" not the fing stock setup.
Everything really works fine except i need an alternator.

would it be good move to get a turbo setup when i do the headers. wastegates, boost controllers and a better intake.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Uhhh... Hell yeah a turbo would be a good idea. it is tricky to do and can be expensive. I would stick to full exhaust with cutouts and big headers/longtubes and open up that TPI base and mild cam to go with it. Then just add a supercharger kit and you will be fast.

Or how about gears. Get some 3.70's and a set of slicks/drag radials. Sell your 3.45's to me LOL please
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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thanx for the back up and the exhaust really might help but i dont wanna dump more than $3,000

And unless u put in 4.11's, why do a gear change, theres no point in dropping 3.73's

You just want a cheap barely used rear end
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Well, 3.70 could help you some over the 3.45's. 4.11's would be great too but not sure where to get those at for ninebolts

I got 2.77's now and 3.45's would be perfect for my car. LOL doing 3.27's in spring cuz i have them but 3.45's would run great for my setup now and what I plan on doing down the road. LOL
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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ok

hey i only showoff at the strip(when im rarely there)

and in front of the cops. lol (just revving)

other than that i try to keep wheel spin to a minimal,

And i try to stay somewhat responsible, i generally dont cut turns at 30 or 40
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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Yes Orr your rite, Ive read test that L98s hit 145 and some others that hit 150! The TTA i think hits 157.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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you can find 3.45s there are a lot of wrecked irocs out there put up a post
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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cool, well 3000 in the right places will make a good running car.
Consider doing some World S/R torquer 305 heads for more flow. Port them out some and add a Superram and cam to match. People say superram is too much for 305 but with heads and cam, it will be perfect. That alone should be good for 50hp+
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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305 5spd / 350 AT part #10066049* Lift .415 .430 Duration 207 213 Lobe sep 117.0 rocker arm ratio (116/-118)

Hey when it says roller cam do they mean solid roller? I thought Irocs were hydralic

and what is the fing rocker ratio?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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thats a hydraulic roller cam
measured with 1.5 ratio rockers
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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I've raced Lt1's before and I've beaten quite a few to about 100 mph after that they start to walk me down Off the line I rarely ever loose to a stock or mildly modded Lt1


1992 5.7 350 TPI
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And a few suspension mods
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Hey m8d2run you live in antioch?? Antioch's my hometown i went to deer valley high... i didnt kno there was any one on tgo that lived there ill be in town this weekend you can come check out wuts left of my roc lol email me if u get the chance cbriggs1@mail.csuchico.edu
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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well if you serius about doing this TT setup thies alot more then you would think to it. ALOT more. your gonna want to use a stonger piston. conecting rods. diffren't crank. diffren't head bolts mayb even heads. and diffrne't exaust. new vavle springs. and then the turbo's the costom piping for them. and the the headers for them.. it's gonna be a toatl 3k if you do it your self. but you'll be well over 500hp. a guy just did this in MN and it's pretty sweet. i'll post pics of his motor later. and some other dude in MN has a 8x trubo car. but just somthing to talk about... and you gonna get you but handed to you in the race
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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yeah i know there is a lot more to it and i have plans made up of heads, headers,intake change, piston and crank and conecting ill finish tommorow im fallin asleep
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