how do you shift a auto transmission
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From: Staunton,illinois
Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
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Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
Re: how do you shift a auto transmission
Originally posted by aaf815
how do you shift a auto transmission? Is it like a stick transmission.
how do you shift a auto transmission? Is it like a stick transmission.
or do you mean in a race if so you put it in 1 and run that to the redline then 2 and then d then od if od is there...
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From: Joliet, Illinois
Car: 86 Camaro
Engine: 5.7 with some mods.
Transmission: 700r4 needs shift kit
Axle/Gears: Stock.
im gonna have to go with thegeneral.
if racing start out in 1st then bring to to about redline and shift it into 2nd without letting off the gas, then bring that to about redline and move the shifter into D aka 3rd then thats about as far as your going. putting it in OD wont do anything. well atleast not at WOT.
if racing start out in 1st then bring to to about redline and shift it into 2nd without letting off the gas, then bring that to about redline and move the shifter into D aka 3rd then thats about as far as your going. putting it in OD wont do anything. well atleast not at WOT.
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Car: 1991 pontiac firebird
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shiftin on a auto not really gunna helo out in a race will it? i just leave my **** in OD n push the gas
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From: Joliet, Illinois
Car: 86 Camaro
Engine: 5.7 with some mods.
Transmission: 700r4 needs shift kit
Axle/Gears: Stock.
shifting mine manually while racing really does help. well from 2nd to 3rd it does. since it will shift too early for me in i leave it in od or d. so i shift it myself and i get a shift at the redlight instead of 1000 rpms before it.
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From: Staunton,illinois
Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
Originally posted by MoroteZ28
shiftin on a auto not really gunna helo out in a race will it? i just leave my **** in OD n push the gas
shiftin on a auto not really gunna helo out in a race will it? i just leave my **** in OD n push the gas
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From: Toronto CANADA - GM Parts Rep.
Car: 1987 Iroc Z28
Engine: The KING of the 3rd gen TPI's.
Transmission: Beefed up T5
Axle/Gears: Aussie 3.45's
It's fun to do, but a horrible way for an automatic transmission to die!
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From: Staunton,illinois
Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
Originally posted by freestylzz
It's fun to do, but a horrible way for an automatic transmission to die!
It's fun to do, but a horrible way for an automatic transmission to die!
i guess if you left it in 1 for a complete race or something but even then your going to be floating valves and damaging your engine before a transmission dies....
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
Transmission: t5 m21
Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
dont keep ur foot in it when u shift as ull burn up the clutches and bands. even my th350 died thats why im going to a m21
comes 2marrow with my new engine for the maro. anyways its easy hit the loud pedal and then when u wanna shift to second or 3rd or whatever gear let up a lil just as long as its not wot ur tranny will last longer. the more u let up the longer the trans survives
jon
comes 2marrow with my new engine for the maro. anyways its easy hit the loud pedal and then when u wanna shift to second or 3rd or whatever gear let up a lil just as long as its not wot ur tranny will last longer. the more u let up the longer the trans survives
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Car: 1988 gta
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: turbo 350
say what?!?!?!?! you do realize that the quicker it shifts the less heat is built up?NEVER let your foot off the throttle under wot and then stomp it back down!!!!!!!!! THAT burns up clutches!!! dont listen to that guy. i dont mean to offend you joc, im sure you mean well, but advice like that will cost people money in the long run! the more heat that is built up the more wear on the trans, slow shifts=wear. wow.
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From: Boston, MA
Car: 1983 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 305 H.O. VIN "H" LG4 (For now...)
Transmission: 5 Speed Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock Posi Disc
the more heat that is built up the more wear on the trans, slow shifts=wear. wow.
HEAT KILLS AUTO TRANNIES!!!!
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From: Hillsborough, NJ & SJU in Philly
Car: 1986 Trans Am
Engine: carb 305 LG4
Transmission: TH700-R4
Auto shifting = 16.8; 80 mph
Manual shifting = 16.45; 84 mph
This may only be applicable to me since I have an aftermarket cam with a 2000-6000 rpm range, but manual shifting helps. I hit 5500rpms or so in 1st (50mph) which is about where my peak power is. When left in auto it shifts at 4500. Same thing in 2nd where I shift at around 5250rpms at 80mph. I have never hit 3rd gear in the 1/4mile, I just leave it in 2nd and keep pulling until I finish the pass. Stupid 2.73s
~Matt
Manual shifting = 16.45; 84 mph
This may only be applicable to me since I have an aftermarket cam with a 2000-6000 rpm range, but manual shifting helps. I hit 5500rpms or so in 1st (50mph) which is about where my peak power is. When left in auto it shifts at 4500. Same thing in 2nd where I shift at around 5250rpms at 80mph. I have never hit 3rd gear in the 1/4mile, I just leave it in 2nd and keep pulling until I finish the pass. Stupid 2.73s
~Matt
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From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
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while we are at it.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...L98+first+trip
14.2 auto shift
14.02 manual shift but with a better launch so not sure how much was really gained.
Mods in sig...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...L98+first+trip
14.2 auto shift
14.02 manual shift but with a better launch so not sure how much was really gained.
Mods in sig...
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From: cali
Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
Transmission: t5 m21
Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
i ont know vej just from experience my trannies seem to last longer if i let up from wot to shift. and my trannies never overheat it helps to have a trans cooler
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From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
jocww, what tranny cooler you have? stock one? I think i want to get rid of stock one and get a aftermarket one for better cooling. Not sure if its worth it LOL
this should be in the tranny board LOL
this should be in the tranny board LOL
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From: cali
Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
Transmission: t5 m21
Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
b&m one its off my dads gto. to be honest the stock one worked fine for me even with my shift kit the only reason why the clutches and bands are going is because i drive it like a teen which i am so yea im hard on it. so is it worth it id say yes just for to be on the cautious side but if i were doin it all over again i prob wouldnt waste the money unless i had a higher stall over 2500 so id prob get it if i had a 3 or above stall
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B&M shift kits are garbage, as are Hurst. Go with a Trans-Go kit. Best money youll ever spend. If youre running a B&M kit, thats why your trans's are burning up. I build transmissions on the side. If you start with junk, youll certainly end up with junk.
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From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
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Transmission: TH400
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well i have a 2800 stall that will loosen up with more engine power to 3100stall or so. Thats the way it was built. So maybe i will look into another cooler. LOL
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From: Joliet, Illinois
Car: 86 Camaro
Engine: 5.7 with some mods.
Transmission: 700r4 needs shift kit
Axle/Gears: Stock.
how do you find out what stall you have if you dont know?
is it by holding down the brake and gas til just before your tires brake loose? cause if thats the case i have a like something 2000 stall
is it by holding down the brake and gas til just before your tires brake loose? cause if thats the case i have a like something 2000 stall
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yeah its about right
mine can brake stall to 2600-2800rpms or so and its advertised at 2800rpms, so my guess is yours is about 2000-2200rpms
another way is to roll at like 5mph and carefull punch tap the gas. watch the tach and see at what rpm it hits before the car jerks forward. its kinda tricky to do and to get an accurate reading, but between brake stall and that, it should get you rough idea what you got. LOL
mine can brake stall to 2600-2800rpms or so and its advertised at 2800rpms, so my guess is yours is about 2000-2200rpms
another way is to roll at like 5mph and carefull punch tap the gas. watch the tach and see at what rpm it hits before the car jerks forward. its kinda tricky to do and to get an accurate reading, but between brake stall and that, it should get you rough idea what you got. LOL
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
Transmission: t5 m21
Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
i never said i had a b&m kit thats the cooler we use. the kit i got i believe im not to sure but i believe is art carr it wasnt preped by him i didnt build it either i got it with the car and my stall is 2200 so about 400 over stock or so
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From: garland,tx
Car: 1988 gta
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: turbo 350
i have a trans cooler joc, its probly twice the size of your "b@m" cooler(there accutaly made by long, witch is who made mine) my cooler is a stack plate design and is 14"x13" and it was an oil cooler that came off a large diesel something or another out of a junkyard for $7. i am very pleased with the transgo shift kit i have, i am biased thou, transgo is all ive ever run. my trans was built by a local, i payed $400 and i can not complain, it is the best trans ive ever owned. the local guy also built a 4l60e that was behind our shop car, it made 677 hp and 828tq to the wheels and weighed 3742 with driver. it never broke and lives to this day in another daily driven car that makes 700tq.
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From: cali
Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
Transmission: t5 m21
Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
how much is shipping vej but its ok cuz i got mine for free and it was just for added insurance.
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shipping?!?!?! i drove to the junkyard. aint no shipping in a junkyard my freind, just rows and rows of metal and rubber and dead babies, waiting to be plucked from there nest and put on my car so i can break it and get another. the beauty of the junkyard is that i went on a treasure search, and it was an adventure. i found my treasure thru digging and cutting and pissing between two cars when i had to take a leak. if you gotta crap, you wait till you get home son, aint no craping in a junk yard
congradulations on getting a free trans cooler from your dad. last thing that was givin between me and my dad was me having a 700r4 built for his work van and him running all over town getting second gear scratches in a 3-ton gmc van.
next time you try to make some kind of atempt at a burn, try and do it so that you dont look like a kid whose dad gave him stuff. it works out better when you do things on your own, that way YOU are the reason that your car does what it does.
no offence joc, lets just be friends...
congradulations on getting a free trans cooler from your dad. last thing that was givin between me and my dad was me having a 700r4 built for his work van and him running all over town getting second gear scratches in a 3-ton gmc van.
next time you try to make some kind of atempt at a burn, try and do it so that you dont look like a kid whose dad gave him stuff. it works out better when you do things on your own, that way YOU are the reason that your car does what it does.
no offence joc, lets just be friends...
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Transmission: t5 m21
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wasnt tryin to burn u at all
how much is shipping for that 400 dollar tranny you got. i dont mind people knowing i have my dad help me build my cars i will be the first to admit it i know i dont know everything and im proud to have help if i dont understand things thats why i ask questions and help others when they ask for help and if i get parts off my dads old cars. its called hotrodding getting stuff from whoever wherever and making it work i dont go and buy stuff from summit just because i can i go if i cant trade for it or get it used from my buddies. dont get so grouchie and ive had my fair share of time in pickn pulls
how much is shipping for that 400 dollar tranny you got. i dont mind people knowing i have my dad help me build my cars i will be the first to admit it i know i dont know everything and im proud to have help if i dont understand things thats why i ask questions and help others when they ask for help and if i get parts off my dads old cars. its called hotrodding getting stuff from whoever wherever and making it work i dont go and buy stuff from summit just because i can i go if i cant trade for it or get it used from my buddies. dont get so grouchie and ive had my fair share of time in pickn pulls Senior Member
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From: garland,tx
Car: 1988 gta
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: turbo 350
did you notice that i said a local guy built it?there is no shipping when a local guy builds your trans. when he gets done, you go pick it up, thats what local means, near home. id never buy a trans thru the mail or internet. i dont buy mail order becuase i like to suport local guys, the ones you can go to ther shop and ask why dont you have this part in stock, and how long will it take you to get it(both questions i know the answer to). i worked for a performance shop for 3 years as an assistant manager. and i know the industry. i dont care to be apart of it , because you see way to much stuff that makes you wish you still had your inocense.
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Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
Originally posted by slim84maro
trans cooler?whats that.
trans cooler?whats that.
its a transmission cooler...
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Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
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