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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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1st race new C6 vette

Well I just got my but handed to me real good, I was on my way to good guys and a 05 vette comes up behind me and flashes me to move over so I hit the gas and he stays on my bumper we got to an open stretch and he jumps besides be at 115 and floors He slowed down to let me catch up, he smiled at me and gave me a nod and we nailed it again, we were going about 75, and he pulled away so fast i thought my car cut off.:hail:
well better luck next time. I need a Vette
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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thats awesome!! those new C6's can move good! on par with LS6 Z06
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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yea thier beasts, some lawyer who works in the same buidling with me at the bank has a rental c6, but he is an old fart and wont run with me. I know i'd get whopped but i'd like to know by how much.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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that C6 creamed you huh..LOL!
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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yeah..thats true, the tpi is lame compared to whats under the hood of those new vettes. I'm really hoping to get lucky and have one roll up on me thinking i'm running a stock tpi setup or something...that would be just great!!
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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stu what a joke, anyway yeah its was fun even though i got my but kicked the guy looked like he was in his late 40's or early 50's
no way you can compare TPI TO THE LS2. I'm down 125+ hp BUT I'd smoke ol STU'd beef
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by pasky
yea thier beasts, some lawyer who works in the same buidling with me at the bank has a rental c6, but he is an old fart and wont run with me. I know i'd get whopped but i'd like to know by how much.

wait till you get that 306 in there...youll be doing the whooping

i raced a 02 base 6 speed vette with some bolt ons and put over a car on him to 100..so im waiting for one to roll up on me thinking "just another turdgen"
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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stu what a joke,
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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sweet

hope u had fun those dam vettes top out at like 198mph
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Don't the new Vettes have the LS2 or am I mistaken?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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nope, they got the LS2 as does the SSR and GTO
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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oh ok. i didnt see what you were saying, i thought you were asking LOL
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Re: sweet

Originally posted by 327CamaroMan
hope u had fun those dam vettes top out at like 198mph
i thought they topped out at 184 mph???
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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doesnt matter 184 mph , 198mph, thats way out of most of our leagues hehe....
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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I'd run me one . I think im going ***** to the walls and dropping this cam in there jan 1st. I'll definatley play with the vettes then.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Thats the spirit Pasky! I will race one anytime and i'm not saying its gonna be an easy shakedown but at the same time i'm not scared in the least.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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you have good reason to not be scared. lol 417 whp is more that what those vettes have at the crank
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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I have no fear, other than around 130 mph or so. I suppose the C6 can do the fly by at that point hehe
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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actually i'm in the process of negotiation with a guy right now about buying my motor and tranny. I just sold my condo in order to purchase a similar one for 30grand less and if the sale of my motor and tranny goes through along that extra 30grand from my condo, I'm pretty set on going all out with one of the Banks Twin Turbo set-ups.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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Im waiting for the time I pull up on one in the C5 I think I'll hang with him

the c6 will actually be slower than an C5 Z06 cause its heavier by about 300lbs or more with about the same hp/tq
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Yeah that would be great
My buddies bolt on LS1 trans-am leaves me like im standing still no way on earth do I want to see what an LS2 would do

*Mutters* TBI 305 bull crap garbage worthless hunk of iron............Ok Im done
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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the c6 will actually be slower than an C5 Z06 cause its heavier by about 300lbs or more with about the same hp/tq
That's just what happens in a video I've seen.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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I'm sure Chevy will release some kind of special performance package in addition to the Z51 package (another Z06) that will bump up the HP to make up for that.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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I was at work sitting in a new c6, and man did i ever start dreaming of driving that sucker........i almost cried when i had to leave.
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they are making a Z06 and it is going to be completely badd ***!!! one impressive machine. its gonna be alot lighter than C6 too and 200lbs lighter than 04 Z06
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Nate86
I'm sure Chevy will release some kind of special performance package in addition to the Z51 package (another Z06) that will bump up the HP to make up for that.
got this from another site

0 -> 60 in 3.8 sec.

Top Speed 200 MPH

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Chassis & Suspension development by Pratt & Miller,
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by leeperryracing
yeah..thats true, the tpi is lame compared to whats under the hood of those new vettes. I'm really hoping to get lucky and have one roll up on me thinking i'm running a stock tpi setup or something...that would be just great!!


Remember, your comparing motors that are around 17 years apart. The technology is just a weeeeeeeeee bit better now
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man thats sweeet! The LS7 7.0 does that make it a 427 cubic inch?
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man thats sweeet! The LS7 7.0 does that make it a 427 cubic inch?
Yup.
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Not sure if this will mean much here, but I was in Blimpies today for a sandwich and for some reason they had the new Motor Trend in there. Somewhere in the middle there was an article about the the newer C6 ZO6. I don't remember the exact details but the magazine was making a lot of effort to stress the fact that it makes just over 500 hp.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by 305PhoenixAm
. I don't remember the exact details but the magazine was making a lot of effort to stress the fact that it makes just over 500 hp.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Looking at the C6 ZO6 spec sheet that someone posted looks good except for one thing - titanium rods are way too expensive and entirely too fragile for a mass-produced car like a Corvette. Since they cost $5K a set (for 8), alone they would add a lot of cost to the car (with little gain). They also are very fragile and under detonation can disintegrate (supposedly 10x more likely than hyper pistons).

It might be a moot point as the C5 ZO6 motor can push out 500+ hp with tuning, so a 6.0L LS2 would be able to squeak out maybe 20hp more out of 366ci.
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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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From what I understand the Z06 will be back in 06. They will have a 24 valve (3 per cylinder) version of the LS2. And yes, it will be giving the Viper a run for its money at around 500 hp.

Saw an 05 run at the track back in november. ran 12.1 on factory rubber.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
you have good reason to not be scared. lol 417 whp is more that what those vettes have at the crank
I doubt that. The LS2 is moderatly rated at 400 HP. Gm High-Tech Performance did a dyno of the LS6, and it pushed a little over 417 with minumal tuning.
Yeah, the '06 Z06 will surprise lots o' people. It doesn't matter anyway, with 500HP the traction control will stay engaged till like 5th gear anyway.
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As far as titanium rods go, IIRC the Acura NSX has them (or at least had them). I don't know whether you would call that car mass-produced or not (do they still make them?).

I doubt that every Corvette will get that 427 (yes, 427 does sound good and, even better, we haven't heard that since about the sixties, 40 something years and yes, I do have gray hair). Does that make them a limited production run that would justify the titanium rods?

Again, IIRC, GM does have some kind of close relationship to Honda, so I don't know if I would completely discount the chance of titanium rods.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Again, IIRC, GM does have some kind of close relationship to Honda, so I don't know if I would completely discount the chance of titanium rods.
Shhhh, you'll upset them.

Supposedly the Satun View uses a Honda motor. I heard that the new C6 was going to have variable valve timing (but that was a couple of years ago, and a lot more companies than Honda use that technology, they just invented it)

Also, I think Ford bought some part of VTEC technology, but they are only using half of it or something. I'll have to ask my friend about that again, I don't remember exactly what he said.
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Shhhh, you'll upset them.

Supposedly the Satun View uses a Honda motor.
Correct as do recent lawnboy mowers

I heard that the new C6 was going to have variable valve timing
They never really considered this. They were however going to make it a 3 valve per cylinder (on the LS7) but were able to acheive thier power ratings without it. One more valve would have made it over 600hp apparently. The 2.4 Ecotec is suposedly going to have some form of VVT when it comes out.


Also, I think Ford bought some part of VTEC technology, but they are only using half of it or something. I'll have to ask my friend about that again, I don't remember exactly what he said.
This is also correct.

The LS7 does have titanium rods. Everyone knows the reasons for using titanium in whatever it is you build. I am pretty sure no company stole this idea from another. It would be like saying, lets make doors out of stamped steel. It is a no brainer. They picked it to meet certain design critera, not because it was some advanced technology/invention.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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It kinda sounds like GMs doing a slightly different version of the C5R 427 for the Z06, I'm just waiting to see how much the crate version will be since you can already get crate LS2's for around 5 or 6 grand.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Will this 427 c5r engine, or the z06 one use a larger block than the ls2? Is it some kind of bigblock, or is it merely a stroked ls2 block?
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It is a smallblock, like every other LSX engine
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Will this 427 c5r engine, or the z06 one use a larger block than the ls2? Is it some kind of bigblock, or is it merely a stroked ls2 block?

longer stroke and bigger bore. thats the advantage of the LS series of engines, resleeve the block for whatever size engine you want. Z06, I'm definitely not ready for, but I want to find me an '05, especially with the coming mods
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IIRC, the 427 C5R block siamesed the cylinders to get the bigger bore.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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I know they sleeved the LS1 block to make a 427, I just wondered if it was the same thing now, or a completely new block. A new larger block would have been awesume.. think about it, a new factory aluminum bigblock which could be stroked and bored...

If Audi BMW and Mercedes keep turning out larger and larger engines as they have done up until now, this may be a necessity to meet the competition someday..
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