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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Being as I don't know the laws in most of your areas, I've gotten a little curious. By street racing, which laws exactly are you violating? I've noticed that for a lot of street races, speeding doesn't seem to apply, as the race is already decided and over before either car is actually speeding. Though I'm sure most areas have specific laws against street racing.

Around here, you'd problably get dinged with a careless driving charge.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Exibition of speed, no matter where you live. Here that's a 12 point ticket.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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California has some dumbass law just for it I believe. Much more strict there as well, they will tow your vehicle and crush it at your expense.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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i dont know wat goes on here in kissimme,fl. all i kno is the cops are more worried about stupid stuff like ur back left tail light is out. then when u take ur seatbelt off to look at it, they question you about y ur seatbelt is off
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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i dont know wat goes on here in kissimme,fl. all i kno is the cops are more worried about stupid stuff like ur back left tail light is out. then when u take ur seatbelt off to look at it, they question you about y ur seatbelt is off
That's the kind of crap cops do when you look shady or suspicious. I've never been through that kind of treatment from a cop before. Despite the kinds of cars I've always driven as well, I've had an over all good experience with coppers.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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Being as I don't know the laws in most of your areas, I've gotten a little curious. By street racing, which laws exactly are you violating? I've noticed that for a lot of street races, speeding doesn't seem to apply, as the race is already decided and over before either car is actually speeding. Though I'm sure most areas have specific laws against street racing.
You can be drag racing but not speeding at the same time.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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Re: Which laws

Originally posted by Dubkor


Around here, you'd problably get dinged with a careless driving charge.
No offense, but you ask what laws are in different parts of the country yet you don't seem to be real clear on what they are in your neighborhood. You might want to find that out in detail before your next street race!

Section 41.70.2 of the Los Angeles City Municipal Code says that your car is confiscated and sold or crushed. If sold, you are not allowed to buy it back (nice try). It also gives the following definitions:

Exhibition of speed means a willful act of showing off or displaying a dangerous or imprudent speed in a vehicle on a highway where the presence of another person is known to the driver or may reasonably be anticipated by him or her. In order to constitute an exhibition of speed under this section, there must be spectators present at the event. Note that you don't need to be speeding; "a willful act of showing off or displaying a dangerous or imprudent speed". And just because there were no pedestrians around doens't get you off the hook either. Have you ever driven down that street before and seen pedestrians around? Any restaurants or shopping centers around (you know, the kind of place where people go?). You're busted.

Highway means a way or place of whatever nature, which is used by the public for vehicular travel. It does not include a facility which is specifically designed and legally maintained for the purposes of speed contests or exhibitions of speed.It's cool on the track, but keep it off the streets. Probably best to keep it off parking lots as well, as you've got expressed written permission from the owners and your liability insurance is paid up.

Speed contest means a contest where a vehicle is raced on a highway against another vehicle, a clock, or other timing device. If you're caught speeding on your own, don't ever tell the cop you were just trying to see if you could beat your personal best time on your favorite twisty road. Technically, that's a race against the clock, and therefore illegal street racing!

By the way, it's illegal to be a spectator at an organized street race, or to act as a lookout for any street race, no matter how spur of the moment.

Your insurance, if you can get it after that, skyrockets.

We can complain the laws all we want, but when some mother's son or daughter dies because some moron just had to beat that other car and couldn't keep himself in check (and we all know it happens) then I can't blame that mother for doing everything she can to make sure nobody else's kid meets a similar demise. It only takes a few morons to ruin it for everybody else.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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They are trying to get a law passed here where if your caught racing 3 times they will suspend your license for like 3 years or something. and the two first violations will be pretty hefty fines as well. I wish they would pass to, because there are to many young irresponsible fools around racing on the streets endangering inoccent lives just to impress there friends or some dumb chick.

I had a relative killed a couple of years back due to this crap and I am strongly against street racing. If you wanna race get your lazy *** to the track.

Thats just my opinion tho. I can't make anyone else think like me...........
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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You'd be right in saying that I don't really know what the laws around here are regarding street racing. To be honest, I don't intend to do it near enough to have it be a concern. In fact, I don't really intend to do it ever again. The track is going to start up the amatuer drag racing again for the season soon, I think, and I'll be able to race anyone I care to there. Though even so, I don't intend to do much of any racing, just because I don't want to be too hard on the car. I only really intend to race a couple friends who keep on at me about it.

I was really just interested in what the laws were like in different regions. I've heard a lot of different crazy stories. For instance, apparently in Vancouver, you can now have your car pulled off the road if the police feel it is modded specifically for street racing, and not put back on the road until such modifications are removed.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Dubkor
You'd be right in saying that I don't really know what the laws around here are regarding street racing. To be honest, I don't intend to do it near enough to have it be a concern. In fact, I don't really intend to do it ever again. The track is going to start up the amatuer drag racing again for the season soon, I think, and I'll be able to race anyone I care to there. Though even so, I don't intend to do much of any racing, just because I don't want to be too hard on the car. I only really intend to race a couple friends who keep on at me about it.

I was really just interested in what the laws were like in different regions. I've heard a lot of different crazy stories. For instance, apparently in Vancouver, you can now have your car pulled off the road if the police feel it is modded specifically for street racing, and not put back on the road until such modifications are removed.
That's cool, the track is a lot of fun - I was just there last Saturday but I don't race our Thirdgen 'cause it's just a nice little stock 3.1 V6.....not much of a race, you know?

They really made a big deal on the news around here when the City of Los Angeles started crushing cars confiscated at street races. They showed some pretty nice looking iron getting crunched like so much aluminum foil - kinda sad, but better that then a 10 year old killed crossing the street.

I swear I'm not trying to preach here - when I was younger, oh man, the stuff I did and lived to tell about it. Then again, I remember when seatbelts were OPTIONS in cars and the only airbag was my friends nasty mom!
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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Whoa, I don't know how you race, but when I race I go waaaaaaaay over the speed limit (often times well into the triple digits depending whose car I'm in - my truck isn't a triple digit demon, unfortunately).

Down here in San Antonio, it's exhibition of speed (speeding ticket), wreckless driving (if the cop want's to be a *****), wreckless endangerment (yep, they're seperate), speed contest, and anything else he wants to throw on their (no blinkers, et cetera).

Used to be just a simple misdemeanor ticket, but they recently changed the laws so street racing is now a felony and an AUTOMATIC 180 day license suspension for your FIRST offense.

The cops used to be real cool about it prior to the law change, and even openly allowed street racing on Sunday nights down by one of the many military bases (the old one that went public) on the old Military Hwy (now Military Drive). They turned two street lights so they'd flash yellows all night, and anyone could do anything down on this little one mile section. If you sped there or back, they would get you in a speed trap, but once you were there, it was no holds barred (they even let you have little barbecues on the side of the road - it was great!). Now, you can't even look down there on a Sunday night without getting pulled over.

Know what did it in for us? The **** burners. Ricers got popular fast down here (within the last six years especially) and all these car clubs popped up. Then they started carrying guns and all these shootings would erupt on the Sunday night cruise (just a few miles from the races on the same road) and a lot of innocent people started getting killed.

During their time, though, the races were beautiful. Everything from 5.0L Rangers to Lamborghini Diablos to Porsche's to fully tricked out IROCs (best burn out I ever saw was a yellow IROC-Z down at the races) to just your run of the mill grocery getters on juice.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by TexaSGuy
Then they started carrying guns and all these shootings would erupt on the Sunday night cruise (just a few miles from the races on the same road) and a lot of innocent people started getting killed.
Why the he!! can't people just go out and have fun with their cars? The best way to shut some stupid **** up when they're bragging about their car is to beat them in a race - should stop any smack right there. Of course the downside is that if he actually has a faster car than you his ego will get even more pumped and you'll never shut him up. Still, that's better than some idiot trying to shoot you over it. WTF is that about??

True story: California Speedway a few months ago and some guy in a Honda is all over this dude with an SRT4. Says he wants to race, but "let's do it on the street". SRT4 guy says "uh, we're at a racetrack moron, let's just do it here". Honda guy gets all huffy, says he gonna get his buddies and they'll settle this right now, says he's done all kinda stuff to his car and it kicks a$$ man, it's bad! Then more threats get worked in and we're thinking this guy is a total wack job.

Fast forward to when these two guys run, and lucky me I'm sitting in line right behind them. Through the traps the SRT4 runs like a 13.1 and the Honda runs a 14.8 - not even close. I make my pass and go talk to SRT4 dude after, and Honda boy is there. His attitude is totally changed. He's like a normal person at this point and says he just didn't like people dissing his car. SRT4 guys says "dissing your car? I was dissing you for being a total jerkoff, your car is fine." Honda guy actually stands there and takes this, no arguement. They shake hands and Honda guy walks off. We're all standing around looking at each other - "WTF was that all about???"

Imagine that guy on the street. With a gun. Scary.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Sounds like they're playing too much Grand Theft Auto 'San Andreas'. I rented that game and I like the GTA series, but it is over the top w/ language and everything.

Kids act out from what is in their surroundings. Damn video games!
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Yeah, what Chrome said. And others. We had a rash of accidents (if you could call them that) concernign street racing on the freeways. Innocent people getting killed becasue Joe Clown lost control of his MaD TyTe ride and wrecked it. Bad scene for everyone, and NOW they're going to shut down our ONE remaining track. The only way we can get some track time is to take the still-as-of-yet unbuilt interisland ferry to the Big Island or ship the car to the mainland. Big $$$ there, unless Matson is your sponsor, otherwise, forget it.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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We all know the dangers of street racing and thats why we like to stress the theoretical part of it. Taking your car to the track gives you proof of how good your car is in the form an official track slip. Since we are all aware of this there is no need to carry on and possibly start a flame war.
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