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Old May 11, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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4 way run 2 lane road

So this actually happened awhile ago but i never really got around to posting it (ok so im lazy)

Im in my mild 89 iroc 350 tpi 700r4 (free mods full exhaust lots of intake porting/ mild head p&p) and my friend is in his 86 iroc 305tpi 700r4. He is right in front of me, and were in cruise mode, going no where just driving. (We both have a passenger).
We pull up to a light and 2 little R1cERs pull up alongside us. Both sporting the telltale whine of a turbo and BOV. Nothing special a crx and a old rwd corolla. They throw a few revs and i open the cutout (i love the reaction that gets from people on my passenger side)
The light goes green and i cant launch or i wouldve been in my buddies backseat but we all take off. My friend gets a great headstart and is maybe 2 lengths ahead of the corolla. I take that as an invitation to show what im really capable of and pass muh buddy.

At this point im doing about 85 and my friend shuts down and gets passed by the corolla. So i pull to the next light in the left lane hoping to shoot the **** with the corolla driver. No such luck he doesnt even try to stop just takes a right turn at the light and doesnt look back... Oh well 3 kills in one race for the iroc!
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Old May 11, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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I'm skeptical of your story. Only because you said you only had free mods, and you can't hear a turbo or a BOV while a car is sitting at a light. I believe you beat them, I just don't think either one was turbo.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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Didnt catch the throwing a rev line didja? From my experience when a turbo'd vehicle is letting off the throttle at high rpms the bov will allow the excess unused air to escape correct? This is where i was led to beleive that they were turboed cars.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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Crx good kill

Corolla....weak kill
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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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swapped and boosted CRX's are no joke.. they don't weigh much.

If they were both swapped and boosted cars, good kills. If they were N/A though.. you're mean for picking on little guys heh
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Old May 11, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by rocluvr0013
Didnt catch the throwing a rev line didja? From my experience when a turbo'd vehicle is letting off the throttle at high rpms the bov will allow the excess unused air to escape correct? This is where i was led to beleive that they were turboed cars.
No, I did catch that. I had a turbo Honda, and you couldn't make a turbo, nor a BOV "sound" from idle, no matter how much you revved it. I know many cars can, but not any Honda I've ever seen.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by 82knightrider
Crx good kill

Corolla....weak kill
Old ae86 corollas are light as hell, have killer swapability, and are some of the best japanese cars of their times. They are as popular as ever due to the emergence of american drift competitions. You can buy turbo DOHC motors that slip right in, with RWD and posi's, they kick ***. hell you can even get the gears from a truck and swap ring and pinions just like you can with our cars.

be proud of killing that corolla, especially if it was sporting a sr20det.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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No, I did catch that. I had a turbo Honda, and you couldn't make a turbo, nor a BOV "sound" from idle, no matter how much you revved it. I know many cars can, but not any Honda I've ever seen.
What is the difference then, why dont hondas spool a turbo when the rpms are brought up...? If that was the case then a turbo wouldnt ever do anything, cuz then the turbo wouldnt spool...? The cars pulled up next to us IN GEAR
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Old May 15, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by rocluvr0013
What is the difference then, why dont hondas spool a turbo when the rpms are brought up...? If that was the case then a turbo wouldnt ever do anything, cuz then the turbo wouldnt spool...? The cars pulled up next to us IN GEAR
You're missing an important part of how turbos work. They don't spool off of rpm's, they spool off of load. No load = no spool. Even cars that can get some boost off the line, or make their BOV sound off while in neutral are barely boosting anything. I think with some electronic rev controls you can build boost though. I know my buddy with a '95 Neon says he can launch his car on 8 pounds, but I forget what he uses to accomplish that, it's a two-step rev-limiter or something.

Okay, so if I said you can't make a BOV go off while in neutral I take that back, I've heard lots of cars do this, but it doesn't mean they are making any real boost. I know that's not the point of this particular thread, I just wanted to point that out.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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i understand that what you are saying is that without load it is virtually impossible to make full boost; and to that statement i fully agree. However it is still possible to make SOME boost without load and it should be plenty of boost to open the bov when the throttle is slammed shut. That being said thank you for clearing up that misunderstanding.

Oh and oddoylerules yeah i agree the old corollas are a great platform for building a fun little car.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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You don't need any boost to open the BOV, it's hooked up to a vacuum source, so as soon as the line sees vacuum (throttle plate closes) the BOV will open. Whether you can 'hear' it open depends on the situation though.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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theres this thing they sell on ebay it screws into the end of your exhaust and "makes a turbo sound" and somtimes a bov sound but i dont know what happen i wasnt there but cool races
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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You're probably thinking of an electronic BOV that just makes a fake sound when ever you want. lol. That stuff is so lame.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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LOL ok, they were turboed cars. They werent well built turboed cars, they werent show cars. However, thats how the race went, and i won. I have beaten a 96 cobra multiple times that ran 13.9's -14.0's. My car isnt anything special but it runs very well. So, i dont understand the statements...
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by stu
You're missing an important part of how turbos work. They don't spool off of rpm's, they spool off of load. No load = no spool. Even cars that can get some boost off the line, or make their BOV sound off while in neutral are barely boosting anything. I think with some electronic rev controls you can build boost though. I know my buddy with a '95 Neon says he can launch his car on 8 pounds, but I forget what he uses to accomplish that, it's a two-step rev-limiter or something.

Okay, so if I said you can't make a BOV go off while in neutral I take that back, I've heard lots of cars do this, but it doesn't mean they are making any real boost. I know that's not the point of this particular thread, I just wanted to point that out.
My old boosted Daytona didnt have a BOV, but I could build a small ammount of boost if I revved it up a bit, and then just mashed the gas for a sec.. Not the brightest thing to do though.
Maybe he heard 'em coming.. or during the race.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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No one is calling BS on you. Nice kills.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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guy i used to know had a twin turbo S10 pickup with a 305 TPI with a stealthram
his brother is like the *** of all Pantera builders and is a crazy crazy man when it comes to turbocharging stuff, anyhow, i had helped this guy out with his computer and stuff, and when he got the thing somewhat running good, he could make 20+ pounds of boost in park/neutral. Saw the car, heard the car, saw the pressure gauge with my own two eyes, so unless he somehow was making the gauge read that much without actually making any boost, then it was making CRAZY boost in neutral/park
so either this guy spent a LOT of time and money making a truck that appeared to be and sounded like it was making 20 pounds of boost, or it was. I'm tending to go with it was, just because why would someone whos working in the same garage thats got 4 panteras, one thats making over 1100 horsepower, a lamborghini, corvette, 2 hayabusa's, and an old Mercedes, make a fake twin turbo truck?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Sigh, see the other thread about getting beat by a Honda please.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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ae86

Just to hear about ae86 brings back some
memories.
When I was inquiring about after market
engine buildups for the car
most of the jdm stuff was for the 4age engine,
they had all the goodies.

Theres a guy just put up ae86 on ebay now thats
turbo and claimed he can get up to 400 hp to the
ground with 20 psi but needs 550 injectors..he says
he put the 4aze 5 valves per cylinder! supra tranny
and rear end. What I dont get is why would someone
want to sell after they put so much into a rare car.

maybe to get a camaro
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Re: ae86

Originally posted by HorseflyDF
What I dont get is why would someone
want to sell after they put so much into a rare car.
Ever see the sticker "Powered By Visa"? Well, sometimes those Visa bills need to be paid.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Wow brought back my 4 month old thread. That was the single most exciting street race ive ever been in...
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by rocluvr0013
Wow brought back my 4 month old thread. That was the single most exciting street race ive ever been in...


Originally posted by 82knightrider
Crx good kill

Corolla....weak kill

So 4 months later your still happy with those kills
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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LOL well yeah it was fun and its no drag car...

For the record i also beat a modded 86 iroc 305 5 spd in that race and in fact i started directly behind him...

The car also hasnt been on the road since a few months later

It has shut down a 2001 Z28/m6 and a 97 cobra among others...
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