I have a 1991 l98 bored .060 over with ported plenum, flowmaster exhaust with no cat, ram air, and a bbk throttle body.

My friend has a 1996 mustang GT 4.6L with Flowmaster catback and MAYBE CAI...

Who would win and how big of a margin, because I will be racing him in a few weeks.

 

You'll take him.The 4.6's were slower than the 5.0's.I'd say you could have a car length on him in the 1/4.

 

1996, nuff said. Go win

 

You will murder face him. Those early 4.6 GT's were in LO3 territory.

 

yes sir, you will absolutely scare the hell out of his nightmares even!

You got it, i would say by 7 cars? Hell i dont know.

 

hifty's right, those are in LO3 territory....5 speeds only marginally faster.

You'd get a better race from a 5.0 Fox Body than this tortoise.....if you have problems anywhere in this race, you are required to give me your car

 

YOU WILL SPANK HIM!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

 

with no cat

you mean NO CATS? LOL.... or you took one out and left the other? lol

 

They are not THAT slow..lol. Most I have seen are in the high 14's maybe low-mid 15's at worst. I have heard alot of bad talk about the 96-98 GT but they are really not as slow as they are made out to be, but not a good run for a stock L98 F-body or a Foxbody Stang....

 

They are to that slow, ford sucks and i'm not biased at all lol
but seriously, if your car is in decent tune, you should be able to spank em

 

no cat i mean...? i dont have true duals...

 

Theres a local guy in a car club. His is bone stock auto 96 GT 4.6L only mod is lower springs and some really sticky tires. His best 1/8 mile time is a 9.89 and usually a 9.9x....its super slow, i pull on him hard in my bone stock 228,xxx mile Fox. My stock automatic 92 RS LO3 ran a 10.2......thats pretty close IMO. There was a bone stock T-top 91 RS 5 speed car that ran a 9.98 while the 96 GT ran a 10.06...it was pretty ugly indeed...especially when he got beat by a lowly LO3

 

all 91-92 Z28 l98s came with a automatic G92 package with DUAL CATS (not true duals, dual cats)

 

my car was originally a 305 TPI

 

ahhhhhhhhhhhh now it makes sense

 

I'm sure, auto kills any year Mustang really. I think I was running low 10's in the 1/8th with my 89 Probe GL lol. My best was a 16.18 with it. I dropped alot going to 5spd in my car, from a 14.84 to a 13.80.

 

but what if it was a g92 305 hmm?

 

yes they are that slow

I remember the old gm tv ad that said the v6 chevy camaro had more hp and had faster acceleration than the mustang v8 (this was back in 96)

 

Im not positive, but im not sure if LB9 autos came with dual cats. only l98s and LB9 5 speeds with G92. Correct me if im wrong.

 

I have no clue about the 96 mustangs or how fast they are, all i know is a guy i know has a 95 mustang gt and i outrun him by a good car length, car length and a half at most, and he is runnin straits out of the catilytic converters, a k&n cai, and a chip...but after all, all i got is a rebuilt 350 sbc chevy with chevy pinkrods, forged crank, holley 650 cfm carb, a comp energizer cam, seal pro lifters, polished and ported 2.02 heads with redone valve guides, a edlebrock performer rpm intake, accel 8.0's, new u-grove plugs, flowtech headers, and y-pipe, leading into 3" catback to a flowmaster (80's series), 180 degree thermostat, turning a turbo 350 tranny on my stock rear end in an original v6 firebird

 

They never had more HP and were faster than a GT. The 96 and 97 are 215hp and the 98 is 225. I have not seen a stock V6 Camaro running low 15's high 14's stock.

 

I've seen 3.8L's run mid 15's though. It's not all that hard if you give it a nice clutch dump. A driver error from the GT and the sixer could win. Those 3.8s are faster than you think.

But yeah, the fastest I've ever seen a non-PI mod motor 4.6 run is a 14.9, in stock trim. Lol. At least around here.

 

I raced my gta (l98) when bone stock against a 98 gt that had exhaust and an intake(both of us autos). I beat him from a roll at 50 mph, when the TPIs choke up. Didn't even drop it down into D and beat him by a car length. If i could beat one at that fast of a roll, you'd murder one from a dead stop.

 

95 Strangs are 5.0's....little slower than a Fox ecause they weigh a little more but sitll the same easy to mod 5.0

96-98 GT's came with Non-PI headed 4.6L's....horrible horsepower and crap powerband. They need a heads and cams swap to provide any kind of power and Cobra PI heads are not cheap for those cars....so they are nothing like their 5.0 past where you could push the stock heads to far limitations.

If you have trouble beating a NPI Stang, get your car a new motor...seriously because you have a laughably slow car....sorry.

 

L98s are already laughably slow, too late for that lol

 

GMHTP got a 98' 5speed V6 Camaro to run a 15.3 in the quarter bone stock. then they removed the filter and serp belt and went 15.1 pretty impressive from a 6er and right on par with a 94 - 98 GT Stang

 

not to mention right on par for about a stock 87-88 350 tpi..

 

again, 350 TPIs are 14 second cars stock. if yours is not, youre doing something wrong... be it racing it or wrenching on it

 

maybe 14's in a corvette, but nothing besides very high 14's in a camaro or trans am...

 

i do not have the 2 cars confused, as my own 89' Vette auto went 13.90 in bone stock trim

again, PLENTY of people have gotten high 14s or better in their stock L98 fbodies. do a search and youll find them

 

MM&FF took a 1999 V6 into the high 14s with nothing more than icing the intake and maybe taking off the air silencer. I believe it was a 14.98. I believe low 15s for some stock V6 Fbodies as they were right with the V6 stick Mustangs!

 

ahh buddy. My 1991 Z28 L98 ran 14.3 STOCK back in the 90s. L98s both Y body and Fbody are solid 14 sec cars. They range from high 14s to low 14s depending on gear and options. Also some later l98 Vettes ran high 13s stock!

 

MM&FF, sister publication of GMHTP, got a 14.9 out of a 99 V6 Mustang with just removed filter and tire/jack.

Thats a good time for either one, but not the norm.

 

lol! I didn't see your post!

 

A stock later L98 with 3.23 or 3.27 is a solid 14 second car for sure...should be mid if it is 100% running right for a 89-91. The 1st few years were not impressive though.

 

your a funny guy, the 3.8 did too run low 15's no you don't need to be a super driver to do it. good drivers got them into high 14's

the first 4.6 was over rated to boot. and hey they said it not me. (well not then i didn't) don't cry though it's just the facts

I would show you video proof but, I know I would hear "well, they just suck at driving "

 

I dont know about this. I would say good drivers get them to low 15s, great drivers on the best day ever with great track prep will go 14s (like the V6 Mustang stated) but on average, a good driver WONT go 14s. I know a few V6 Fbody guys, and one has all the free mods, and exhaust and only runs low 15s on drag radials. On nitrous the car has been 12.8 @ 103 to give you an idea.

On average I would say mid 15s, with a good driver and good track prep, low 15s, on the best day ever, with the best driver high 14s tops...

The older 4.6s did suck, even the owners admit it. The fastest ones were mid 14s on the best days, and on average low 15s probably. I dont debate that, but your V6 Fbody facts are flawed!

 

i went and ran a 14.6 in my 305, so dont say that u cant run 14's in a l98. only thing that has been done to the enigine is a tune up and some freebies.

 

14s = slow

 

how are my facts flawed? you agreeded with 90% of it.

the reason the "free mod" ones don't do better is they gut the bottom of the airbox this cost them hp and slows them down. they was a kid at the dyno who did that. it was funny because they told him not to do that and well he did and lost 15hp on the dyno. (I guess it pulls hot air from the radiator or something? (don't know and don't care)

anyway the simple fact I was saying is a 96 gt mustang is slow compared to the surrounding years of mustangs

and yes the tv ad said it was slower than the v6 camaro (wish I had it now)

 

yeah early GT's were slow........i seen them go 15's. 99-04 stang GT's have 50hp more and go low 14s on average, so 96 GT's with mileage on them will only go low 15's

 

Alot of the stock 99 up GT's at my track have ran high 13's even at 100-102..dead stock.

 

I raced him, he beat me to about 30ish cuz he launched perfect with hit Nitto 555r's and then i took him by about 3 cars at 100ish

 

so they arent much slower than junk TPIs lol

 

Enough about spankings you guys. Starting to scare me lol

 

Good work. Always nice to beat a stang. Even better when you beat him up top with a TPI

 

ANY L98 can run atleast 14.9. If your in the 15's with a 350, you need to sell that car. I don't care if it's an 87.. once you mod them, they get the same power of later slightly more powerful versions. As for that stang, they run low 15's. Similar performance of a 305. Any L98 with just free mods would murder them.

14's aren't slow.. that's pretty damn fast.

 

Gotta disagree...14's is slow. My Mustang runs 9.0's in the 1/8th and I used to always think that was fast before I hit it...now that I have a low 9's car, itsl ike "wow, I just got spanked by a 8.8's LS1" Or "Damn swapped Civic hatch went an 8.77 on me".....Mid 8's Ill start saying my car is quick......low 8's/high 7's my car is "fast". Nowadays theres alot of cars stock with less displacement and more horsepower putting down better times. For its age a 14 second ET from a ThirdGen is respectable...but not fast.

 

I was running mid 8.8 in the 1/4 with my car before the SC. Just exhaust, pulleys, and cold air. 13.80 best 1/4 time, and 103.2 best mph.

 

My goodness, were you running a jet engine in that thing before you're supercharger? j/k