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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Me Vs. a 96 Mustang...

I am wondering who would win between me and my friend who has a 96 Mustang 6 Cyl/5 speed. I know i have the '****ty' v8 (even though its good enough for me), but even still, i have sooo much more power than his car. The only mod his car has is Dynomax exhaust.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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I think its safe to say you will wipe the floor with him unless he is hiding N20 or some other power adder.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Yea hes definately not hiding anything else in that POS.

Yea i was just wondering because he always talks about how he smokes my other friend who has a 85 Firebird (5 speed with a lg4 or l69--not sure which one). I just dont see how his car with its 140 HP or whatever can touch a v8 f-body.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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She either cant drive or hes full of ****
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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He could beat an LG4, but not the L69. The L69 is a pretty peppy motor.

Yeah I think you got him. Just get a nice launch and it's smooth sailing.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Yea the thing with my friends firebird is that the engine was replaced like 30,000 miles ago, and i dont know what it had in it from the factory, but a 4bbl V8 was put in when the engine was replaced. The guy who sold him the car said it was the HO, but you know how people are these days, they call all the V8's HO just to try to sell them. So i don't know what engine it has, but its definately either the lg4 or the l69. Its got 3.42 or 3.73 gears so its pretty quick, but the car is beat to ****, so who knows how much power its got left.

Either way, its nice to know i could beat the other kids mustang, given the chance...
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Yeah, those early sixer's are complete dogs.. plus you have a sh!tload of TQ on him lol
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Well the 6 has a couple more ponies than you.. but it will struggle with the torque. Plus, those stangs from that year are sluggish, v8 or not. 5 Speed V8's barely ran mid 15's.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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I don't mean to steal your thread or anything. But what would the race look like against a 97 GT with a manual transmission? My friend has one and keeps wanting to race me. But I don't street race, so just curious.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Re: stang

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Well the 6 has a couple more ponies than you.. but it will struggle with the torque. Plus, those stangs from that year are sluggish, v8 or not. 5 Speed V8's barely ran mid 15's.
ACtually, he doesnt have any ponies on me. His car is either a 95, 96, or 97 stang..and the 6 cyl's from those years range from 145-150 HP.


And scotty, while i was on edmunds i looked at the specs for a 97 GT...out of the box it looks like he'd beat our cars, unless you have some mods and/or he sucks at shifting...

97 Mustang GT Performance
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 6.7 sec. Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 129 ft.
Road Holding Index: .85 g Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 215 hp Max Horsepower: 4400 rpm
Torque: 285 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 3500 rpm
Drive Type: RWD
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Re: Re: stang

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ACtually, he doesnt have any ponies on me. His car is either a 95, 96, or 97 stang..and the 6 cyl's from those years range from 145-150 HP.


And scotty, while i was on edmunds i looked at the specs for a 97 GT...out of the box it looks like he'd beat our cars, unless you have some mods and/or he sucks at shifting...

97 Mustang GT Performance
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 6.7 sec. Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 129 ft.
Road Holding Index: .85 g Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 215 hp Max Horsepower: 4400 rpm
Torque: 285 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 3500 rpm
Drive Type: RWD
Yeah I knew he would beat my LO3. I was just wondering if would be somewhat close...guess not. And he really can't drive that stick.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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See the problem is that we don't have any 0-60 times for our particular cars. Yea theres 92 Z28 0-60's, but we dont have one. We can only estimate. I mean that 6.7 is with guys who know how to drive...If your friend doesnt know how to drive and/or messes up a shift, you might be able to beat him. I dont know though...
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Re: Re: stang

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97 Mustang GT Performance
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 6.7 sec. Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 129 ft.
Road Holding Index: .85 g Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 215 hp Max Horsepower: 4400 rpm
Torque: 285 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 3500 rpm
Drive Type: RWD [/B]
Its slow.... The foxbody is faster
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by a mack6
See the problem is that we don't have any 0-60 times for our particular cars. Yea theres 92 Z28 0-60's, but we dont have one. We can only estimate. I mean that 6.7 is with guys who know how to drive...If your friend doesnt know how to drive and/or messes up a shift, you might be able to beat him. I dont know though...
I think our 0-60 is in the 7s. Could be wrong though. And all I've got is a modified exhaust and K&N filter. Plus I figure those Heritage stripes are probably worth another 20 horsepower.
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by ScottyRS
I think our 0-60 is in the 7s. Could be wrong though. And all I've got is a modified exhaust and K&N filter. Plus I figure those Heritage stripes are probably worth another 20 horsepower.
HAHA!! Yea i have a K&N filter, and i'm going to be getting a dynomax ultraflo exhaust in september. But your right, our heritage stripes are worth about 20 more if you think like a ***** haha.
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by a mack6
But your right, our heritage stripes are worth about 20 more if you think like a ***** haha.
If you can't beat em...join em. And I've got a Dynomax on my car (not sure which one), but it's pretty good. Decent sound.

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Yea i want the dynomax because i think the flowmaster sound would get alittle annoying after awhile (like a week before i bought my car, we came realllly close to buying a 93 LX 5.0 vert w/ flowmasters on it...you coudlnt here yourself talk inside the car and i kinda didnt like that). From what i heard, the ultraflo kit sounds pretty much like stock at idle, but when you give it some gas it sounds nice. I just want people to know its a V8 when i drive by...
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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The V6 are turds....high 16's at best. an LG4 and LO3 are basically the same stock, though I give an LG4 in *** tune a bit of an edgte because it has better heads.

A stock 96-98 GT will run a mid low 15's at best, auto or stick. Ford was dumb and dropped Pushrod power....we see where that got them SEE: LS1
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Well the only reason i think a stock LG4 would outrun a stock LO3 is because the lg4 was around when they gave f-bodies better gearing. IT wasnt uncommon for those to have 3.23's and 3.42s out of the factory. ****, my car could ONLY have 2.73's (3.08's if it was a stick) out of the factory.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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it will be closer than you think. 0-60 in 7 seconds? maybe a 305 tpi the lo3 will be a bit slower.

your lo3 is a good 16 second car in the 1/4. if you are real good and can drive it right you might pull a high 15,

auto tpi 305's run from mid 15's to low 15's (upper 14's with stick and decent gears.... some good drivers even dip them in a mid 14)
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Re: Re: stang

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ACtually, he doesnt have any ponies on me. His car is either a 95, 96, or 97 stang..and the 6 cyl's from those years range from 145-150 HP.


And scotty, while i was on edmunds i looked at the specs for a 97 GT...out of the box it looks like he'd beat our cars, unless you have some mods and/or he sucks at shifting...

97 Mustang GT Performance
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 6.7 sec. Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 129 ft.
Road Holding Index: .85 g Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 215 hp Max Horsepower: 4400 rpm
Torque: 285 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 3500 rpm
Drive Type: RWD
My bad, The newer (99-04) must have the 190 hp v6. 150 hp, are you kidding? You should whoop his @$$
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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He could beat an LG4
not likely any pre-99' V6 Stang could beat an LG4 stock for stock. my bone stock LG4 Z28 went 16.0 at 85mph, highly doubtful that a 140hp Stang could pull that
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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The only 0-60 time ive seen for an older v6 stang like that was 9.9 seconds for a 95. Thats really slow, and i just can't understand why i hear about him beating that one firebird.

I was pretty sure i would be able to beat him if we raced, but it was good to get some reassurance.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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if you don't beat him, sell your car and buy a honda
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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if you don't beat him, sell your car and buy a honda
Not if the objective is to eventually beat him
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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id get 3.73's before you race him he might get you off the line and maybe top end not surei raced one with my formula but the 2.73's stock really killed me off the line. but i pulled top end the v6 dont have much top end eitherbut being 5speed who knows cuz i raced an automatic.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Oh im not gonna get any mods just to beat a v6. Generally, when we 'race' we're going down this one road that opens from a one lane into a long, straight 2 lane stripe that goes uphill. So it would be from atleast like a 40 MPH roll. I really don't that i need to worry about my gearing in that situation.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by tpivette89
not likely any pre-99' V6 Stang could beat an LG4 stock for stock. my bone stock LG4 Z28 went 16.0 at 85mph, highly doubtful that a 140hp Stang could pull that
Then your LG4 is a well kept, in good tune, non-thrashed on LG4. I'd be lucky to pass a semi with my old LG4 powered Z.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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i beat a 96 stang v6 5 speed not long ago he had a few things done and i won in my stock lo3 but not by alot. we raced from a slow roll to about 120.
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Then your LG4 is a well kept, in good tune, non-thrashed on LG4. I'd be lucky to pass a semi with my old LG4 powered Z.
passing semis? hahaha, probably not, this motor sucks *** from a roll. crappy cam and exhaust is responsible for that

i dont know how "well kept" it was before i owned it, but it had 88k on the clock when i bought it 4 years ago... now it has 106k. when i ran the 16.0s, it was actually out of tune. tuned it up, got it running right, and did a few cheap mods and now it runs 15.6s at 87mph in hot weather. anyone can get decent times out of these motors... just like any engine you gotta make sure its running great, launch it good, and dont race while the car is hot

now im not saying LG4s are fast cause there not, but there nowhere near as slow as magazines and most people claim they are
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