One of my coworkers has a 2000 Accord with a V6/A4 which is completely stock. We've raced before, and he definately had the faster car before I put the headers on. I challenged him again to see if maybe the headers evened things out between the two cars. The results were pretty interesting.

We raced four times: two from a dig and two from a 35 mph roll.

The first race I was destroyed because I wasn't paying attention at all to my friend who did a countdown for us. I was expecting him to say "Go" after counting down from three, but the other guy left on three and it was nothing but a catch up game from there.

Race two turned out a lot better. Instead of having a "confusing" countdown, I just honked my horn three times. I immediately got the jump on him and put about 1½ cars on him until about 70 mph when we shut down.

Race three and four had pretty much the same thing happen both times. We hit it at 35 mph, and stayed pretty much dead even until about 65-70 mph when he slowly started to pull away. It was kind of disappointing to see that his car still has more top end power than mine, even with the addition of headers to my engine. However, it does give me inspiration to starting adding more hot parts to get it running faster still. I know what my next mod will be (it's got a 262 in the name, if you want to try to guess what it is ).

Anyway, although my story may not be that interesting, I hope any fellow LG4 tuners will see this and not make the mistake of overestimating how much power one simple mod might add, like I did. We both had the idea set that I was going to murder his car until we actually went out and raced. The results surprised both of us. Haha... I guess I learned another valuable lesson which would be bench racing is only good for **** talking.

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Cars have come a long way in the past 20 years so I wouldn;t be too ashamed. You still have a great platform to work from. I once got beat by a V6 malibu when my LO3 was stock.

 

when i had the stock lg4 w/ 218,xxx miles in my car i raced a buddy of mines moms 02 accord 4 door 4 banger w/ 5spd and it was fairly even un less he did his imfamous launch technique (stall and miss 2nd) then i would kill him. but i had surprising top end. we raced on interstate and we both got on it at about 75 and i kept goin and let off at about 120-125 and he claims he was catching me but the girl riding w/ him said they were doin 105 when he shutdown. he will be in for a big surprise once my new motor is in

 

That's cool dude. The V6 is a whole different beast, though. 200 HP/TQ vs the I4's 150 HP/TQ.

What's going in your TA now?

 

i bought ho 305 from 84 ta runing w 120,xxxmiles and i tore it down bored it .030 over bigger cam better ignition headers the words estimated 300hp. and ive got 383 in the works too. but the 310 matches the color of my car also i hope it will run pretty strong

 

Cool, I hope to somewhere around 250 WHP once I finish up the 305, then moving on to bigger and better things.

 

You guys building your 305's....could have just spent the money on a 350+ cubed motor and be odne with it. Ive been there, odne that with 305's and found they are only useful as paperweights.....Ill never waste my time on one again......theres a few members here who have had luck but all in all, for real performance, 305's are worthless hunks of scrap metal

BTW, good races!

 

Are you running the stock LG4 cam? If so, it shouldn't be disappointing... as headers will only take you so far with the stock LG4 valve-train....

Consider a better cam, intake... while port matching everything. Program (or have someone program) the stock LG4's ECM to constantly stay in open loop so you can maintain you're electronic spark control, then swap to a demon carb.

You'll be disappointed, no more....

 

305's are fun to drive and they get better milage than the 350's at least the TPI. But look elsewhere if you want more performance.

 

Just thought I'd add that even if I had a 350, I would still have to buy all the other things to go with it as well, such as headers, intake, cam, heads, ect. A 350 with an LG4 valvetrain is going to be just about as slow as the LG4 itself.

By the way, the only real mod I have done so far is the addition of headers.

 

i just put together a 305 so i could get the car running again. and i do have a 350 4-bolt main too also got it for $35!!! but im going to replace everything in it crank,rods,pistons cam u name it it will be new and better. the 305 is fairly reliable than what ppl say about it i ean mine went to 218,xxx miles till the oil pump went bad and reaked havoc on the motors internals.once i get mine back together though just for giggles im gona get a buddie of mine to drive my honda and i wanna race it and i have a few buddies w/ built trucks that wanna run me

 

Just wanted to say its all in the tune. With my 305 and 2.73s with an SLP cat-back, high flow cat, and SLP 1 3/4" headers and CAI, I got some 28mpg on the highway one trip.

With the 350 that I rebuilt, I expected nothing less on the highway. I'm sure I could get that kind of mileage, even with my 3.23s and bigger cam. Higher compression helps a bit, and the tune makes a big difference. I had gotten 19mpg on a highway trip with a few long WOT top-the-car-out runs and sitting in traffic for quite a while because of a jack-knived semi. I also didn't have highway spark or fuel modes, DFCO or a torque convert clutch lockup. The combination of the tune and the trans alone I expect would have given me at least another 25% highway mode.

I probably won't ever find out though as I'm pretty sure the bird will be replaced by a '98 Z28 M6 tomorrow ... ...

 

If you're going with the XE262 cam, don't forget to buy a better intake. The stock intake will hold back the cam a lot. Trust me....
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~Matt

 

yea not sure on what cam i want yet i know i want something that will rev high but still be streetable and as soon after breakin a new intake is being put on i was looking at a weiand intake that worked w/ power ranges from idle to 7k i hope to be able to take out a few ricers aroud here with this though 3.73 will be swaped in too

 

I've just got a small cam in my 84 LG4; it has .420" lift on both intake and exhaust. Don't have any other specs as it was pulled from a blown-up 400 from a motorhome (would this make it an 'RV' cam )
225k miles on the engine; heads have never been off the block. Hedman shorties and y-pipe into a Dynomax 2 ¾" cat-back.
Stock, cast-iron intake with a somewhat tuned (using only parts I had on hand - probably not optimal) Q-jet.
T-5 and a 3.42 open rear on street tires netted me 2.32 second 60-foot times on my way to 14.494 seconds and 98.69 mph in the quarter in my old 83 SC.

 

ZZ4 intake in my room waiting to go on.

 

both of my intakes i have a stock aluminum intakes one im using for now has been media blasted so look aftermarket until i get nice one that will work better w/ my setup

 

My 305 and a TBI at that ran a 9.89 @ 69.08 in the 1/8 pulling a 5,300 lbs G-Van.

You guys racing Honda's better hope that you never run across the old 2 door Acura Legends with the 6spd. They are lighter than an F-body, have 240 HP/200 ft/lbs and have a very low gear (like 4.40:1), and a 6,300 RPM redline. They are quick, my mom has one. 14.2s bone stock with some stickier tires on it.

 

Pete:

Your "old 83 SC" has something important to it that my Trans Am doesn't though. You have a matched drivetrain. My 2.73 rear and stock stall kill the gains from the cam. Since you have 3.42s and a T-5 you don't have that problem. I hope my car will run those times with a new rear gear and stall.

~Matt

 

Really? This makes sense then. My brother was telling me that he test drove a Legend and it felt as fast as his 71 Chevelle was with a stock 350, and I figured he was just full of it. Those come with inline 5s, right?

 

No, that was the Acura Vigor.

 

Hmmm.....do these Legends have the V6 then?

 

Why yes they do fine sir.