Hey guys I was wondering what the specs were on an 05 v6 mustang and if with good drivers on both cars if my IROC would have taken him. I didnt shift from 1st gear to OD but left it on D. But the mustang was pretty fast.

 

what kind of iroc do you have . i dont see a lb9 or a l98 loseing to a 05 v6 stnag now if you have a lg4 or lo3 iroc then you can get beat poretty bad.

 

I could see an LB9 loosing in a roll race. An L98 should keep up though. Just have to remember that TPI doesn't give you any top end.

 

I dont have the mag with me, but I know recently a company took an 05 V6, and stock it went low 15s or high 14s, and then with a full exhaust, tune, CAI and a few other bolt ons the car was in the 13s!

 

4.0L V6

210HP and 240 ft/lbs

 

L98 will rape one. PERIOD. From a roll or offline. I hate when ppl make the L98 seem that "BAD" TPI isnt as bad as ppl say. Yeah its not as good as the LT1 and no its not in the same league in the LSx. But still will beat most cars on the streets. Especially stop light to stop light races. Its still a 350 Small block. L98s esp the with G92 package will beat or stick with most of the old school muscle cars.

 

Any decent tune LB9 should take one, L98 would murder one. It takes quite a bit of bolt ons to run with a GT however.

Those new 6er stangs aint bad, much quicker than an LG4 and most L03.

 

Indeed a L98 would murder and rape a stock 05 V6 mustang. The torque of the L98 would destroy it off the line...then pull it the rest of the way no problem.

 

the 05 6'ers run low 15's/high 14's and thats preyy good IMO from these heavy *** S197's.

 

I saw one run 15.2..I have yet to see one get into the high 14's. It may be possible if everything is perfect driver,conditions,under 1/2 tank ect...A stock 90-92 L98 is capeable of running 14.2's if everything is perfect so big difference..

 

Except not many run 14.2s with a stock L98. Just because some do doesn't mean they all can, even in good running shape. I'd say the factory freaks run 14.2s stock, with most being in the mid-upper 14s.

 

Ya but my point was that saying the stang can hit high 14's stock is like saying an L98 can hit low 14's stock. It CAN be done but is not always going to happen. Thats why I said Capeable. You are right that some L98 cars are faster from the factory than others. The same applies to every kind of car.

 

No, a V6/5 speed Stang bone stock from the showroom floro can run high 14's if you have driving skills...and not john force skills, just can drive good and not powershifting, it can be driven into the 14's easily.

 

A LB9 with L98 cam in good shape should rape it, an auto Lb9 with the peanut cam will get raped especially from a roll, because then it will lose the torque advantage as well... This is assuming its not in one of those 3800-4000 lbs firebirds


Obviously a B2L or L98 will rape the v6 car..

As far as the GT 4.6 with a blower, either engine would be hard pressed to take it, traction becomes a major issue and so does the top end. Without the blower, modding either engine could take the stang.. Take note of the 90's GT 4.6's...

 

Upper 14s if its a fully optioned GTA with poor gears. Most stockers run 14.5 on a avg. Lot of the later Irocs and Z28s ran 14.4/ 14.3 with good gearing (g92) I dont understand how a heavier 210hp V6 car with no ***** will run high 14s... But the L98 will run the same time as the v6 mustang... With more hp and lil lighter and a ****load more tq

 

Because V6 Mustangs are usually driven by high school girls, and Third Gen Camaros are usually driven by old, fat men who are trapped in the past.

 

Fat old men? You mean M ullet style hair and r3dnecks

 

Bashing third gens on a Third gen forum

 

Give me an 05 V6, Im willing to bet easy 14s, and then some more work into the 13s, hehehe! I will say most people that own them dont care about track times, which makes them seem weak! I have driven them they arent slow by any means...

An L98 should walk it with ease!

Also peak numbers mean nothing, power curves and whats under it is where it counts. 250 hp at 4000 RPM (making under 200 before 3000) might lose to 210 hp at 5500 RPM (making 200 from 3000-6000)...

 

I should have been more specific nick. Most LB9s with the exception of 91-92 G92 5-speed variants are pretty weak. They're likely to be beaten from a roll IMO.

The L98 should take the stang all over it's powerband, it has no real torque, and about 30hp less than an L98. I've driven one, and it's decent for a sixer, but no real *****. However I think if the race went above 100 the stang might pull a little, however the L98 would already be so far ahead that it wouldn't matter.

 

It would be cool to see one run aganist a 5.0 Mustang of the 80's. I bet it would give an 85 GT a run for its money, nothing over 85 though.

 

87+ would get it imo.

 

the 700r4 what really killed the l98 for stock times. A later ZF 6pseed Corvette with a 350 TPI would run high 13s stock! Also TPI has bunch of low end TQ. That V6 has nothing compare to it.

 

A later ZF 6pseed Corvette with a 350 TPI would run high 13s stock!

Yes but the 350 in the Corvette had more power than the 350 in the Camaro/Firebird.

 

what can I do to get my camaro running at 300-400hp at the wheels? Without getting a 4000 power adder.

 

It might be helpful if we knew what kind of car you had

 

I have a 1989 Camaro IROC. It has an L98 with 700-r4 transmission and it has 2.73 gears and well everything is stock except a 50 series Flowmaster.

 

Either A. Tune up your car, or B. Work on your driving skills.

 

Thanks for those two comments but that wasnt what I was looking for.

 

You would need a full exhaust and a heads and cam swap in cobination with a TPI replacement intake. 400rwhp on motor alone takes some planning.

 

If that was all it took to have 400 on the motor, wouldn't everyone on this site have that much power?

 

I dont see how you lost to a v6 mustang..you must be in need of a tune up. My 89 with full bolt ons is putting down 245 at the wheels which is equal to about 304-309 at the fly wheel. To get 300rwh you will need full bolt ons a cam swap and some less restrictive heads. If you want more than that swap out your TPI for a better set up. Sorry I got off topic...I dont like to hear about v6 mustangs beating 350's. Tune up that car and go smoke that mustang!

 

V6 Mustangs get beat by Integras all the time. Time for a tune up.






*I never see anything about a tune up on any other boards I post on. I'm going to start using TFATU on sites for people with old cars.

 

There are lots of carbed 400hp motors here but not many EFI ones. People are too lazy to do the ECM tuning and aftermarket inductions are expensive. It is easier to go the LT1/LS1 route add a cam and be at 400+ right off the bat.

 

ahhaha ya dude I was all sad because everyday at school hes like
"350 beat by a v6 pffff" I just stay quiet. I know it really does need a tune up but im saving up to get the top of the line stuff for the tune up. I also burned out a little before take off and well that cut like 2 seconds but he beat me by like a nose. In a week im going to get a tune up and some K&ns and beat that ****ty mustang. I also didnt shift from 1-od and well that also knocked some take off.

 

Don't spend too much on tune up stuff. Stock replacement parts are fine for tune ups. Aftermarket "tune-up" stuff won't add power.

 

Actually NO. From 87-90 All L98s (Corvettes and Fbodies) had the same rating. Instead you can get a 6speed or a 4+3 doug nash (87-88) with the vette (optional). Only in 1991 the L98 Vette had more power then the Camaro. And that was 5 hp! 245hp vs 250!

 

I came across a V6 2005 puntang and raced em from about a 20 mph roll to 60. I let em have the jump but the best i could do was pull even with em by 60mph. Im sure from a dig a L98 could walk one, but my stock L98 from a roll was just slowly reeling it in.

 

i raced a v6 mustang once with my 305, without nitrous. i dont know what he had to his car other then it had big wheels on it and a bunch of "steal me" stickers. from a 40 roll i raped him. did it about 4 or 5 times too.

 

either your car is poorly tuned or you dont know how to drive

 

Sounds like thirdgen.org advice there.

 

was that towards me? Cuz its true. Yea if its a GT its a diffrent story. The GT will simply win cuz its a mid 13 second car. But a fully equipped L98 with g92 package will beat a v6 mustang in any category (besides gas mileage ) Plus what do those new V6 have for gearing? Are they posi?

 

Your correct 91 had 250, then for 92 came bigger gains with the LT1. I was thinking too far ahead that I forgot the LT1 was in the Vette in 92. Must have been thinking Camaros

 

Nope. Last year of the L98 was 1991. Vettes had the l98 from 85-91. The 91 L98 had 250hp. Then in 1992 they had the LT1 with 300hp. A 50hp gain in one year.

Also ive driven many GTP 3.8 V6 supercharge pontiacs. They have better numbers then the new V6 mustangs. Let me tell you those GTPs arent even as fast as my 350. I did full WOT on I 95 with one of those. Damn they arent fast PERIOD I wouldnt think the V6 mustang would be any better really. Do a pully swap in one of those GTPs and you have a low 14 sec solid car They run 15 flat tho. Which isnt bad for a 4 door sedan car.

 

The short explanation is something you can probably sympathize with in the tuner community. A lot of people just throw $$$ at a motor and either buy stupid flashy parts or buy good parts and expect it to perform without spending any time tuning it. 400 hp isn't hard at all to get out of a 350 if you know what you're doing.

 

Bingo!

And an auto LB9 in good tune will keep up with a GTP. Remember even the peanut cam LB9 has like 60 lb-ft or so over a Stang V6. It should keep up from a dig.

Sorry, I don't buy the about these Stangs being 14 second freaks. The numbers just don't add up. Either these are horribly underrated from the factory or it's just hype. Yes, there has been a magazine which has done it probably. But that's far from saying that every one that rolls off the factory floor will perform like that. I don't see any other cars with similar numbers (210 hp, 240 lb-ft, 3300 lbs weight) running 14s.

 

Well i do drive a auto so its not hard to push the pedal to the floor, and considering it was from a roll i didnt drop the car into 2ns or 1st, i just left her in drive. I am sure my motor is tired because the fastest i could get her to go at the track was 15.1 1/4mile, which i figure isnt too bad for a 95k stock motor.

 

whoa 15.1 for a l98 No wonder why... Your 91 L98 should run mid 14s stock with good running condition. Yours has speed density which was faster then the MAFs. A 87 GTA runs better then that 15.1. Hell a CFI vette does that LOL. Also whats your gear ratio matt?

Also im not ******* on the V6 stangs. Stockwise i dont believe there power to weight ratings would be a 14 sec car. But ive seen ppl boost those lil suckers up though

 

Also look at Orr89rocZ. His l98 motor has 150k miles! with a couple mods hes running high 13s. With exhaust, tq converter and gears. What really wakes these l98s is modding the tranny and do exhaust work. Cuz the restrictive exhaust and that lame 700r4 really made it boring..

 

Yikes. 95k shouldn't hardly be enough to make a stock motor THAT tired unless it's been seriously ragged on. I would call 15.1 a good time for an LB9 95k motor.