about where am i at vs ls1's and other fast street cars

mods in sig

 

LS1's will slap you....I mean no disrespect but LS1 powered cars are one of the fastest most durable engines out there on the market today. They respond to mods well and they can take years of beating and they hold up well.

Just to see how I would hold up, I raced a modded LS1 Trans Am and he kicked my *** as if I was standing still...

 

did you look at my sig

o i have good friend with a 98 ws6 trans am we will take a trip to the track this summer

 

Yes I did, and the LS1 should still be much faster. You are no where near 400hp and that is what you would need in a 3rd gen to beat an LS1 car.

 

dude look at your mods...... duh.

but yeah i am leaning towards the ls1.

 

I knew I was gonna lose badly, I just wanted to see how badly he would kick my ***. Only mods I have is an open element and exhaust.

Racing corvettes and Trans Ams/SS/Z28s is alot more fun when you are in a dog slow LO3 car...

 

You'll get beaten.

LS1s are quick at the strip but no where near infallible. I've beaten many with my "slow" LT1. Where they shine is on the highway - they trap quite high for their ETs.

 

Agreed! I've beaten several stock auto LS1's at the track with my "slow" L98 and I'm nowhere near 400 HP, lol.

Do not race from a roll on the highway! You will get raped!!!

 

I would say it's going to come down to exactly what Pro Topline heads you're got. If you just have one of their relatively crappy stock replacement smogger-type heads you're likely going to walked by even a stock LS1

I was kinda assuming you meant the Pro Topline Vortec-style heads, since they seem to be the fairly common Pro Topline head to run around here. What exactly do you mean by "worked over" anyway?

Assuming you have Vortec-style heads, I had a similar 350 setup albeit with a smaller cam (XE262) and factory GM Vortecs in my 87Z. I pulled on several LS1 Fbodies and Vettes, although all were stock. It would no doubt have murdered my new LT1 car (headers/gutted cat/catback and a cold air induction setup).

With your hotter setup I think you could beat mildly modded LS1s, ie catback and lid, etc pretty easily. If they are approaching "full bolt-ons" or throw in a cam you're going down though I would think, depending on exactly how well your setup is tuned and performing...

 

i assumed he meant full bolt-on, or cammed ls1s. he should be able to pull on a stock one, or one with a catback. Anything more than a catback and a lid and I think he'll be seeing tail-lights though.

Of course you never know.. I watched an '02 full bolt-on M6 Firehawk die to my LT1 at the track.. guess it helped that he couldn't drive worth a ****. A full bolt-on LS1 with tires and a good driver should have no problems hitting a mid 12 second run. My new motor should run a low 12, and I'm worried about cammed LS1s.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
[B]Yes I did, and the LS1 should still be much faster. You are no where near 400hp and that is what you would need in a 3rd gen to beat an LS1 car.


Well Ive ran the same times as a few LS1's around here and Im only making low 300's. As of now I am running 13.4's so anything is possible.

 

i dont think u need 400hp to beat an ls1
300 is more than enough,
because thirdgens wieghs less than 4thgens
and have better erodynamics,
a TTA can beat aNnLS1
and TTA'S have around 300hp

 

I meant stock or near stock

My heads are port polish and they are the small chamber

 

even if TTAs can win, it would be just barely. Plus they have turbos, so it also depends on the type of boost they are running.

If a guy turbos an LS1, a TTA is pretty much toast as well as the majority of the cars on the roads today.

And a well tuned M6 LS1 will have anywhere from 305-320rwhp...it doesn't matter if a Third Gen weighs less or as much or whatever...too many people factor in a Trans Ams weight and they automatically depict that because there car is lighter it will win.

It doesn't work like that, LS1s are far better motors than any carbed motor and I mean no disrespect to anyone with a carbed motor

 

It doesn't work like that, LS1s are far better motors than any carbed motor and I mean no disrespect to anyone with a carbed motor [/B][/QUOTE]


Well yeah there better than Lg4's and such. Carbed motors are proven to be able to make more power than a FI motor. You can buy some insane crate motors that are carbed that would destroy an LS1's power output.

 

Let’s not start a war like the svt vs. ls1 war

The fact is they weren’t

 

Thats my favorite war.

 

Don't follow you there.. sure fuel injection is nice and gets good MPG but as far as power is concerned I'd take a carb setup over FI for a drag car any day.

 

I don't really care to argue the carb vs FI point, so lets just say that may be true in most respects. But a carbed vortec headed 350 setup decently will easily make 375-400 hp or more depending on exact setup easily. It's been done time and time again. With this guy having mildly cleaned up heads, a fairly stout cam, longtubes, etc it has the potential to stomp on most mild LS1s (pretty sure somebody here was running low low 12s with a very similar setup getting the max outta it...)

 

ok, I am not trying to put down carbed motors. Personally, I am not a big fan of them don't ask me why cause I just don't have a logical answer to it. Alot of people consider my reasons childish, but hey it works well enough for me. But what I am saying is, out of the box yes, crate motor A can have 380hp, but really when you look at the money you spend to get that crate motor, you could get an LS1 for almost the same price if not less. And besides, throw an LS1 1000 dollars and you got yourself a 400hp or more motor...