This is valid, Many people assume that when I pull into a cruise night with my C6 that I dont know cars, and assume its an auto... but in my mustang I restored or the z 28 I must be a car guy...??
And I am a powertrain engineer for GM so I consider myself a little Knowledgable, some of you may disagree lol

any way I find this very impressive, but not impossible... but the S/C 383 *if built correctly* should have the power to hang... I question the camaro's tires and traction set-up... but it may have the traction..

Also your not just fighting the displacement advantage.. its also about volumetric effiency... a STOCK LS7 intake port flows over 350cfm.....thats incredible, try that with a stock 80's head...any one camaro or not... but it is a neat race... and it sounds like the both of you had fun..

 

u have a fast car 89ta383. just make sure to stay away from this car http://www.horsepowerengineering.com/media/ZO6NOS.wmv

 

I think in a few weeks that vette will wish he never played with me. I got the water injection on and was able to get 24 degrees of timing out of my motor. I raced him before with only 18 before.
I ran in to a problem yesterday when I ran over a board in the road and it hit my cat converter. Now my car is going to be down for a few days so I can put on some more parts that i ordered. A ATI psd1 with innercooler is on the way with a 12bolt that I got from a friend that has 4.10 gears . Now I can run 15# of boost.
Hopfully I can get a few more degrees of timing out, like 28. Now what do you guys think? I woud like to see that Zo6 in the video so I could see how I woud do.

 

Haha, HPE...my friend knows the owner Apparently that z06 was running pig rich too. Wrong jets or something, dont remember the whole story.

 

its still running the factory tune...expect another 30-40rwhp with tuning

 

also lets see the guy he was racing was a supercharged 383 right?
do you even know for sure what mods the 383 has in it?


if not then how could you really call it hard to believe when you don't know?

 

it can't be a close race.

I mean think about it a GT40 with that whimpy supercharged 5.4L motor in what a 3000lb car isn't going to be a race for it either. no way. it's motor is too small.
or one of many other cars out there. and that car is stock though so yeah the camaro being it has like mods and stuff might do a little better but not against the vette.
the vette will never lose.

 

sorry man no way you can keep up with a vette.
your prolly raced one that has 7 nonfiring cylinders. duh

 

RX7speed are you tring to say a car with 500+ rwhp cannot beat a vette because the vette has a wieght advantage. right now I know that my car is making alot of power to the ground. right now I am almost maxing out my 42# injectors. I know a bunch of people that are running 42's or bigger and they are running over 525 rwhp. the only reason I started this is because I am tring to see what my car runs on the street. I will never take the car to the track.

 

read the rest of my post you might gather something in the sense of sarcasm


why not take your car to the track. you will know for sure what yo u are running and be a little safer to boot.

whats wrong with that?

 

haha i get the sarcasm.

Gt is 3450lbs and puts out 535rwhp or aroudn that. very efficient cars at puttin power to the ground and i believe abit underated but then again, maybe not. with a pulley swap they fast as hell. stock form they already run abit quicker than the Z06.

 

come on orr listen to everyone else. not a chance. it's only a 5.4L motor and I guess if it is at 3450lbs it is heavier then the vette.

the vette can neva lose.

 

Chevy better off the new camaro with the 427, if they dont then they are completly stupid. The sales are already gona skyrocket when the new camaro is produced, but imagin what they would be if an SS 427 was offered


If one is offered i will go into debt to get one.

 

It'd be stupid to release it with a 427. No one likes the gas prices so high, and you don't need a motor that big to make power. They'll release what the people who are going to buy it want, not what high school kids and fan boys want.

 

That new 427 can shut off half its cylinders and get 28mpg on the highway

Either way, I also don't think its a very good idea to release the Camaro with the LS7. Should get the LS2 (as planned) and MAYBE a special edition at some point down the road with the LS7 in it. Hell, by the time they are ready for that, GM will either be bankrupt, or supercharging everything (which is cool they are finally doing that with everything).

 

All i gotta say is that if a Mustang Cobra putting down 500+ horses can hang with a Vette why can't a thirdgen that puts down the same and weighs much less?

I wouldnt care if the new Camaro came with a 427. Heck I would be happy with a higher output 5.3 for all I care

IF a new Camaro comes out its looking like it would be at about the time I graduate from college so MAYBE I can talk about getting one for sure then.

 

...if my old L98 5.7 N/A can run 12's in the 1/4 in street trim...then why is it sooo hard for people to believe a blown 383 can run 11's...heck even high 10's??? The new Vette is BAD but its still beatable in a drag race....as a total package its ALMOST unbeatable.....


350Z

 

shoot I would be happy if the new f-body came out with only a v6 as long as it looked good. we all know how good the v6 motors can be

 

V6 motors I do like the tta's though.

 

The market will be directed toward people of about 25 years of age. So basically, alot of the people on this site. When we say we want something in a vehicle, car companies listen.

 

Examples?

 

We have officially drifted into the land of Off-Topicdom!

 

Well I want an 09 Chevelle 454 SS

 

GM is going to make a huge come back by 2010 with the new Cylinder/spark cease technology and camaro...i just got back from the Houston Auto show and the ENTIRE day at the show there was a huge crowd around the new concept camaro...there was the new saleen s7 twin turbo and it barely had anyone glorifying it...invest some stock into GM boys bc i think its gonna explode..and import sales are gonna hit some hard times with GM producing 40 MPG cars due to the new technology

 

GM is going to make a huge come back by 2010

Yeah it can also be too little too late for them, just like they tried to re-invent the camaro with the LS1.

GM producing 40 MPG cars due to the new technology

Toyota and Honda are arlready making cars that get 50mpg by the time 2010 rolls around it probably be up to 60 or 70.

Haven't you been watching the news all the jobs ford cut out this year and GM has been doing it for years. Hell the Dana plant I use to work for sold it because of Ford, GM and Chrysler sales were dropping and so was our orders. Face it the Big 3 look like their going down and hard.

 

 

The Big Three are struggling mainly because they've been around for so long. Former employees get retirement and benefits, which is a huge amount of money to pay. They say for every car GM or Ford sells, about $3,000 or so goes to retired worker benefits.

GM is the world's largest automaker and they were 2nd in the world in sales last year, and they still lost 8.6 billion. It is just a matter of time until Honda, Toyota, and other foreign car companies have to deal with a lot of the same debts that the Big Three deal with. There is a chance GM may go bankrupt, but they won't disappear, and they WILL recover.

 

Honda and Toyota have been making cars since the 50's. They're just as old as far as what you are talking about.

 

ford and chevy have both have been making and selling cars since the early 1900's.

stu that's before the 50's just to let you know

and when has been one guy pulling a wooden cart been much of a car.

though guess you could go with the high performance options with the factory r<x>ice of three chinamen slaves wearing a dragon suite pulling your lightweight cart. might be a little faster and cheaper on fuel they wouldn't need to eat much.

 

And off topic we go.

 

I realize they've been making cars since the 1900's, but how many people that were employed then are still receiving pentions today do you think?

Besides, the number of years a company has been around has jack **** to do with anything. Shell has been around since the 1400's and they aren't running into financial problems. Any car company that runs out of money is because they just don't know how to capture the market. Been around for a long time.... give me a break.

 

my grandpappy has been working at a butler in fords house since 1896.
he was 30 back then so he is a little old. sucks his retirement oly comes out to 75 a month. sure good money back then but sucks they didn't take into account inflation.

 

 

my grandpappy has been working at a butler in fords house since 1896.

Umm Wha Huh?

Ok anyway back on topic I see no problem at all as to why a 383 can't beat a z06. In the Z06's stock form now I know I can take it in the 1/4 mile by a half sec in my 377ci nova with DRs. An my car is streetable kinda sorta!

 

Hahaha "my grandpappy has been working at a butler in fords house since 1896."

I wish I could live to be 140 years old. Props to grandpappy.

I think we've just about concluded that this camaro? firebird? in question could take that zo6.

And Stu's right. They can't capture the market for whatever reason, and it certainly isn't because of the retirement plans. For whatever reason though, they seem to think it necessary to make these large scale adjustments, so to better their business.

This thread so needs to get the lock. =)

 

Man that dude is old

 

Mark my words, you are wrong. Cutting jobs is different then filing chapter 7.

 

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