omg, you guys thing YOU have it hard?

"(Don't even get me started on the girls around here, they LOVE my camaro even though a few got in and was like "Is this a Ford Camaro?"... Or the good classic "Oh my gosh its sooooo cool is this a Corvette??"

"(ran 11.9's with a chick driving)"

Imagine being a 24 year old "Chick" driving a 92 RS. I get "oh that must be her daddies car" "Her husband did all the work on that" My husband is a ford guy, I'm the one that's always loved the third gen Camaro, and I was very specific on what I wanted but later found out it was too hard to find so I settled. I'm in the south, in Concord, NC NASCAR central. Most know what my car is and comment on the nice shape its in for its age. Most you see around here is rust buckets barely driveable if it werent for the bondo holding them together, but I understand everyone has to start somewhere and restoration takes time. Yeah, my husband did most the work on the car, but I was in the shop handing him tools, or under the car holding the parts for him, I wasn't inside drinking iced tea watching soaps.

I guess it comes down to the level of testosterone ya got...we all like to brag about having the best, some of us car people just take it farther than others to the point its obnoxious and disrespectful. I try not to brag much, I much rather go under the radar and surprise people. I know my camaro isn't fast, yeah its got a v8, however its heavy and slow and stock... my v6 AWD Saturn Vue Redline has more get up and go AND horsepower stock...then again, my Saturn is in the shop broken down right now and the camaro is the daily driver till its fixed. That has to tell ya something...

I have nothing but respect for anyone taking pride in their vehicles and I love classic american muscle.

 

Yeah, I've never had any negative comments made to about my car other then one night in a parking lot some immature s#$& bag in the passenger seat of a 93-96 Z28 yelled mad smack at me sayin "why don't you bring that little POS out here mother @#%!#@" for no apparent reason while all my buddies were chillin in a parkin lot. Yet I knew the 305 wouldn't of done my self any good but one of my buddies jumped in his single cab 03' 1500 Dodge Ram and chased him down, only to come back with endless bragging rights that he just beat an LT1 with a stock hemi truck by a half-a-car length. He said that thing was running so slow/rich my 305 could of taken him. Plus if I did race I may have possibly gotten my wheels dirty.


Hell yeah! Nothin' better then chicks that dig american muscle (Chevys specifically hehe). I live in Nascar Central too!, right over here in Mooresville probably bout 40 mins from you. I wish there were some dang camaro clubs around here... I'm tired of hearin a fart pipe poppin off every mile and a half.

 

I have three times had grade school age kids compliment my GTA. The first two were along the lines of "cool car!" The last one was a kid walking down the street as I was walking out to it. The kid said, "I like your muscle car." THAT stunned me! I simply said "Thanks," but I wanted to ask, "Aren't you supposed to be dreaming about getting a piece of rice in a few years?" There's hope for tomorrow if some kids have GOOD taste in cars!

 

Me too, I know there's tons of mustang clubs, and import/tuner clubs. I hang around with group of tuners with my Vue...difference with them is, its not really a club, just a forum, and actually, its like a group of people that just hang out. Majority of them are with the import. They are all a mature group of people however, and when I pulled up with my Camaro one day, I got nothing but 'oohs' and 'aaahs' and respect. I can appreciate these kind of tuners. Nobody has an exceptionally heavy modded out car with these guys, but they all enjoy tinkering around and modding with what they have, and respect everybody in the car scene.

 

+1. High respect for import tuners that respect muscle.
Rice =

 

What are you all talking about, yes people dont like us or our cars because our cars are mostly junk, but v8's are fast, i dont care if its a 305, v8 is v8, still beats the high pitched farts of a Rice.

 

Heres how I look at it. You take a Honda Accord and a Camaro Z28 (LT1) both used at 5 grand. You've been givin' 5 grand for building this car in preformance terms. The Camaro is already faster, and in the end after that money is spent, the Camaro will still be faster. There's no replacement for displacement. Plus, honostly here, what would a chick rather ride in? A put-puttin honda accord that sounds like a bumble bee comming down the road with so much body kit/bondo additions it looks like a transformer or a badass rumblin tire spinnin ferocious F-body? (Joking, but truthful)

 

Your average chick? The one that is cuter...most likely the Accord depending on condition of paint and said body kit.

I have a V8 Taurus. I wouldn't consider all V8's fast. I should be running around 15.4-5 with full weight in the quarter. All V8's have the ability to sound incredibly nice.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...ec0049530e.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...1600591ace.htm

Sounds nice but fast? Not so much.

I have respect for 3rd gens, but when you throw a muffler on or hack one off most people who have them think that they have a race car all of a sudden and, like said before, is why people lose so much respect for any type of car. Idiots drive all kinds of cars.

 

Third Gen Trans AM's and Z28's get a lot
of respect and more so than ever, at least
around these parts anyway.

I drive my car everyday to work, and I get a
comment everyday, at least or people who stop
and gaze the car down for a few seconds.

A few import guys stopped me one once &
asked how much I paid for the car and how
awesome the car looks & sounds.

Makes me warm and fuzzy inside

 

Unfortunently i got hosed by a guy on a provisional licence in a turbo suburu liberty with a giggling girl in the pass seat and a chrome fart can out back. It took all my strength not to order 10k worth of parts when i got home after that. That thing pulled me hard, GONE before i got into third. Not good.

 

(faking a southern accent) You sayin I ain't cute? Callin me abnormal? Thems fightin words.
j/k I understand what you were tryin to say. Fact is, I get mad if I get called 'cute' I consider myself too badass to be cute. Granted I'm blonde, but you can't go calling someone who listens to heavy,death and black metal, and classic rock in a t-top camaro 'cute'
You're right in saying that your average 'cute' teenybopper who just got her license would rather have a riced fart canned honda, or even a plain honda. And if I were a parent...I'd probably rather my kid have a honda or toyota than a v8 muscle car that they will mostly likely wreck and kill themselves in and ruin a piece of american history. As welll as gas...its not cheap and if My kid is going to be doing alot of driving...they better have something cheap on gas. Starting off its a more practical choice until they get expeirence under their belt more. If hypothetical child takes after myself or my husband...there's no way in HELL they're getting a v8 sports car for their first vehicle, I can't afford the tickets.

 

Hmm... I didnt mean the 'average' chick... I meant the more cuter-above-average chick, I know I'm just another worthless 17 year old but girls at my school love my car... Even though they usually have no idea what it is. Of course, girls would rather drive a Civic, Accord, etc. but that dosn't mean they dont like our cars. Wait forgot to mention... There's like a black 98-02 SS runnin around here with chrome Z06 wheels, SLP decals everywhere,and LOUD exhaust. The driver? Some very FINE young blonde chick. Don't tell me chicks don't like our cars (even though its a 4thgen I know). But chances are that might be her boyfriends car.

 

See my original post on this topic...see what I mean. There ARE chicks that own sports cars or classics that aren't 'they're boyfriends' Myself owner of a 92 305 RS, my best friend at work drives a 4th gen V8 Trans-am, my other best friend as a 1972 impala that she is restoring to its original state and is almost finished...restoring BY HERSELF I might add, she does all her engine work. Give us some credit.

 

i was just joking around with the whole "v8's are fast", i know there not extreamly fast, mines a 305, its not slow, but it deff could use alot of improvement.

and i give alot of credit to girls that have the passion to love cars like these, my girlfriend loves these cars and would love one of her own, not one that i buy for her, or her family, she wants her own that she can work on and she can feel accomplished with, i love her for that drive to be better than the me.

Also, i have a friend, --->SHE<--- has a trans am, she doesnt do "all" the work on it, but its her's, and she does a fair amount, and she's learning to work on it, she deff gets her hands dirty, And she can drive that beast like ive never seen

 

why does everyone use this and think wow I'm special now. and to show you how special you are take a 91 eclipse vs a 91 camaro. both get 1000 in mods. who wins? I doubt it will be your camaro. no replacement for a turbo.
just to close though my arguement here is just as stupid I know. and before you go and say well what if I add a turbo to a v8 then who wins. same can be said for the motor with a turbo. who's faster turbo 302 that adds displacement or a N/A 350 that adds a turbo?


and nice of you to rely upon your car to get chics. figures kids these days don't know how to do it any other way.


and who says every honda has a body kit transformer looking ride? mine sure doesn't. hell the look is stock and I would rather keep it that way then those domestics around here with the altezza's, huge cowl on a stockish v6, and body kits they use. so either I'm mixed up as to what an import or domestic is or maybe the domestic side isn't an innocent as you think.



oh and what was that you are asking for and wondering why thirdgens never get respect?
(same joking but truthfull)

 

THIS THREAD IS GETTING RETARTED. NICE CARS THAT ARE DONE RIGHT GET RESPECT FROM CAR GUYS AND GIRLS. SH+T BOXES WITH STICKERS AND FART CANS GET NO RESPECT. EITHER IMPORT OR DOMESTIC. TOO MANY TEENAGE KIDS WITH TBI MOTORS WITH 260K ON THEM ARE TRYING TO RACE TURBO CHARGED TUNERS. AND MAKING THIRDGENS LOOK BAD. DO YOURE CAR RIGHT, MAKE IT LOOK BEAUTIFULL. AND GO FAST. DO IT TASTEFULLY AND U SHOULD GET RESPECT BY ANY MOTORHEAD. MAYBE SOME OF YOU GUYS DONT HAVE THE BUDGET TO RUN 13'S OR EVEN 14'S BUT DO WHAT U LIKE. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY KEEP IT CLEAN.

I MYSELF DRIVE AN IMPORT AND MY THIRDGEN. BOTH ARE DONE RIGHT. BOTH GET LOADS OF RESPCT FROM MOST PEOPLE.
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BY THE WAY, MY IMPORT IS A 97 BMW M3, WITH LOTS OF GOOD MODS.

 

1 MORE THING. A PRESTIGE 87 IROC WILL OF COURSE GET RESPECT. I NEVER SAW AN 87 CIVIC COME EVEN CLOSE.. WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY KIDDIES IS THIS, THESE CARS WE HAVE ARE FUTURE CLASSICS. JUST LIKE THE 67-71 MUSCLE CARS ARE TODAY, SO TREAT THEM THAT WAY. AND IF YOURE GONNA RUN EM. KNOW WHAT U HAVE FIRST.

 

wow calm the caps down man
these cars might be nice but honestly I don't see them turning into the anything near the muscle car classics. too many of them made too many of them still around. but other then that I agree

 

I disagree with the original poster. Third Generations get a great deal of respect. What kills it though, are it's owner(s). You ever been to a car show with TTA's & 91/92 Firehawks? Such cars demand the Import enthusiasts' attention and respect....

Went to Raceway Park's last car show with Dave (Dave's12secondv6), and you couldn't keep the tuner crowd away. Hundreds of questions, backed by jaws dropping when they seen the turbo that he adapted....

It's the individual that doesn't get the respect...!

 

THATS A SWEET COLLECTION STREET LEGAL. TTA'S AND 91/92 FIREHAWKS ARE THE ****. AND THOSE "RX7 SPEED" ARE COMPARIBLE TO SAY A YENKO OR A LS-7 CHEVELLE IN COLLECTABILITY IN YR'S TO COME.

 

alright the caps was the final straw, officially UNsubscribing to this thread.

 

^ Bandit, do you come out and visit Raceway Park any.....?

 

i havent yet, but i want to this season. give me heads up when the good events come around. thanx...

 

so what you are saying is a 91/92 firehawk and a tta are just like an 87 iroc that you brought up earlier?

 

... Wow could you jump to conclusions any more? First of all the argument with turbo vs. displacement can be viewed in way to many ways to argue from because there's too many variables. Two, did I say I was special? No I did not, did I say I use my car for chicks? No I did not. Did I also say that EVERY Honda is like that? NO I did not. Before you state your opinion on the "kids these days" as you were referring to me, don't you think you should think over how mature your statement sounds? You don't know me, you don't know who I am, and you surely don't sound as mature as you think you are from those statements. I was simply stating my views on the subject, so please don't criticize me.

 

don't put your ideas out there if you are not willing to take critism on them.
If you can admit there are too many variables for turbo vs displacement why state it as fact that there is no replacement for displacment.
most of my post comes from it's the same damn **** everyone else has said over and over again. if you don't like the imports that's fine but honestly that wasn't the original question asked. this part sounds more like a bash import (with no good reason) post then anything else.


if you would like to praise your thirdgen and then at the same time bash honda's at least do so in a better way rather then "wow dude uh my car gets chics and can spin tires, and uh honda's can't cause they uh have bondo and body kits"

honest how would you look at it if I said something about thirdgens and always comming free with some red neck, bondo, your very own trailer home? you wouldn't like it as much either as it is nothing more then a stupid stereotype that you get tired of hearing of. it's this my car is better then everyone else's and so I have a right to laugh and make fun of other cars that is part of the reason for lack of respect.

 

Did you miss that one? I think your misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Your taking this as if I'm bashing on imports. That's not the case, I'm bashing on RICERS aka the kids my age that run around in bone stock 4 cylinders with no power adders that have the loudest possible fart pipe they can have on that thing and think they can race around town all night long. I have respect for imports, the ones that are done right, the ones that aren't half-assed POS, the ones that don't bash on the domestic drivers. Don't get me wrong there's domestic drivers out there that do the same crap. They spend $1 grand on a Camaro or Mustang that's been rusting in someones yard for years and think its fast. My definition of rice would be someone that buys a slow, falling apart, POS that is well beyond as loud as it should be and has half-assed bondo jobs and halfway bolted on body kits.

 

that's the problem... I'm a r1cer


now I think I shall go cower in a little room talk to the teacher and get some lessons on how to read...

 

it really depends where u live, in my highschool there are 7 camaros, two 4th gen, two thirdgens (including my self), two 2nd gens, and one first gen, every has respect for everyone, the muscle cars and all the diesel trucks scared away the ricers from wyoming, even my friend who owns a MK IV Supra and still has respect for my V6

 

Oh well then, there's your problem. Case solved.

 

I laugh at those clowns. Even if I have a LG4 It sounds nice and thats all they need to know. Or i just say I wouldn't waste the gas on their heap.

 

If ya dont race em' they dont know what your capable of, therefore if it looks good and fast. they will keep thinking that until they know your racing them and they beat ya..

Im heading to North Carolina In August with my camaro, I'll be there for 2 years. NTI

 

lol I love it when threads change subject and get out of control, anyways...

The things people say(or type for that matter) and the way they act are very reflective of the type of person they are.

Personally I have way more respect for people like Rx7speed, whom I've seen on these boards since I've joined, who are very humble and refrain from jumping on the chance to bash others or praise themselves as soon as possible


Who cares about other people if they're bashin your car. Screw em'. Enjoy yourself and your car and don't worry about other people. Cars shouldn't serve as a means to get girls/respect/friends.

 

+1 but it gets to a point to where your so mad you have to rant. since i first started the thread ive added a new exhaust and headers and no one says anything anymore.

 

I know I didn't get respect the first 2 weeks i owned the car then I took down the so called beast of beast Srt4 in a 0-60. Now everyone shows me tons of respect. I dont street race all the time only reason I agree with the Srt is because I knewb the guy and he was a cocky ****.

 

everyone seems to like my car. my friends arent really gearheads and they all think its the fastest thing on the planet. they even argue on who gets to ride with me when we go somewhere

many times people have come up to me in parking lots and been like "wow i love your car, what year is it? it looks fast! etc...."

last night i was rolling through a grocery store parking lot and 2 10yr old kids were like "IROC-Z yeah!!!!" and started hootin and hollerin and dancing around. made me feel kinda cool. i revved it up and they went nutz!!!

r*cers usually just try to avoid me. they know whats coming if they try to call me out

most girls seem to like my car. esp when they ride in it. but if youre really that desperate for p*ssy then just get a bike! when i had my GSX-R 750 i literally had girls flashing me at stoplights and handing me phone numbers in mall parking lots. i mean i consider myself to be an average guy but DAMN!!! if youre on two wheels, youre g0ds gift to women!!! (at least thats what the really hot girls think, theyre usually shallow and easy to impress)

 

i agree dude, when i had my cbr 954rr, holy a** fest...

 

All in all you have to be really humble here in NY....you never know what to expect. Ive seen a Toyota pick up cursing Hempstead Turnpike that BLASTED my borthers formual. On the island, a lot of the kids have money that they just dont know what to do with... Ive seen my share of skylines and 10 second h22 hondas with a 200 shot..but at the same times ive seen low key 4th gens with 3rd gen 427 blocks.. what im getting at is out here you have to have respect for everything or you will be putting your foot in your mouth. But all in all , anything with the bowtie or the blue oval gets respect.

 

having a rocket bike is sweet. I know i have had my fair share of hot shallow girls from having a bike. I think the whole thing behind it is the fact that girls look for something thats fast or looks fast. I can go rent a drop top V6 stang and take it up to a local cruse spot and park it and its like a humming brid feeder. you dont even have to be the one driving the car just standing next to it will do lol.

as far as respect of the 3rd gen well..... My 91 is realy nice and clean has a few mods its no rocketship but it can get up and go when needed. I will not give out props or a nod or what ever your looking for if your driving a turd. I have respect for they guys that have respect for there 3rd gen. you can easly spot the guy that is tring to make his car nice just like you can spot a guy running it in to the ground.

 

I get the least amount of respect, everytime i go by these damn stormtroopers try to shoot me, they think theyre so fast in their new shiny tie fighters, and dont even get me started on the wookies!



Funny i get this too, how odd.

 

did you really just make a star wars joke?

 

yes im a nerd and cant help myself

 

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I don't respect alot of thirdgen owners or their cars because they are no better then alot of ricers running around here. I have just as many if not more rusted out POS LG4 thirdgens rev at me then Hondas. A good majority of the thidgens I have seen (which is dozens) in any given driving season in my area are almost all rusted out piles of crap and the drivers think they can run down anything just becuase it has a "built 350". There are a few unmolested show room thirdgens and some that can really move out but they are few and far between around here.

I love my car just because it was a present from my parents for turning my life around other then that I can't wait to get an SVT Cobra when I'm done with my B.A.

 

just my 2 cents but..... a 91 camaro and a 91 dsm.....they are both a POS lol....i mean i love my camaro but now that im a little bit wiser i would never buy a third gen again. First gen yes 4th gen yes third gen hell no. LOL. From the racing stand point the third gen camaro is a racers worst nightmare. You have to do so much to get the damn thing even strong enough to run 13's with out the frame twisting wheel hopping and drive train blowing up. As for DSM....Jesus. Those things blow up all the time. They have a great bottom end but top of the motor is just trash. From what i understand a DSM can go 13's on a stock turbo which is all good but it wont last . Now that i think of it, there really wasn’t any good cars in 91 unless they were 1million bucks. Now if you wanna compare a 95 z28 vs 95 dsm with 1000 worth of mods... no contest z28 all the way.

But I know that’s not really what the argument is about. More or less displacement VS turbo. Unfortunately id have to side with the turbo on this one…. At least for this time period. From basically the late 70’s to early 90’s (1993) turbo’s owned. You have to look at the muscle cars that pulled through that time period ( grand national, the turbo TA both second and third gen and the dogde omni / ford mercur which where not muscle cars but they were fast ) Those were our fastest American cars then…..and they were turbos.

But not respecting third gen’s you have to admit….. there is a lot of reasons to hate on them. The few real pluses for a third gen I would say would be the t tops the wide low stance, the hydraulic cam and looks…
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SVT cobra and ss camaro = OWNS all

 

wow! sounds like the last two guys that posted dont like thirdgens?? why the hell are you here? sell youre cars, buy a honda. or suck the chrome off the tailpipe of youre cobra! both of u obviouslly dont care much for our cars, maybe youre's are just big p.o.s! but mine isnt.and there's alot of killer rides in this tgo, and yes they run 13's and even alot lower times then that. and they look great on top of it. it all depends what youre doing with youre car, most of these can be seen as a blank canvas to do what u want. from a mild street machine, to a wheel stander. and exterior mods can be mild to insanelly wild. 1 last word. i have driven tons of cars in my time from 70k dollar bmw's and benzes to vipers and c6 vettes. nothing feels better than cruising in a nice clean thirdgen with the t-tops off. and than spanking a blue oval. and staying up a porshes *** on an exit ramp at 70mph..all and all its what u make of these cars...

 

heres My Two Dollars.. A third gen camaro is around the 20 years old mark.. When a fourth gen hits its 20 years old mark, its going to be outdated.. Just like the 1st and 2nd generation camaro it went through it also. And if You'd Argue that they didnt. Your on the wrong side of the fence there buddy.. Lets say in 50 years we are still driving cars.. When todays Fastest street Car Rolls onto the street, It will be Old Competition.. Technology Changes in "better Ways".. Back in the 80's the L03 wasnt slow.. it was pretty Fast.. Look at the cars being built out there today.. Heck Look at the Grand National.. V-6 Turbo. Killed alot of cars back in the day.. I think it still does too.

When the Cavalier First came out, it was a pretty Decent car, Just about everyone has had a cavalier, And if you didnt your brother or sister did.

 

You did not read my post very well. I didn't say I hate thirdgens and I clearly stated I value mine because it was a gift from my parents who I don't see very often anymore becuase of school. Also if you click on the vbgarage link you can see that my car is far from a POS for your self.

What I posted was my personal expeirence of why thirdgens don't get the respect they deserve. I love driving around in my car but sadly it does not have t-tops or AC for that matter haha. I'm not a brand loyal person and I really like Cobras I think a DSG terminator with a lower and upper combo a ported blower and full exhuast would look great parked next to my Z28.

 

...... Stop being so naive man. Do you mean to tell me if you were to pick a "blank slate" you would pick a unibody f-body over a g-body from the 80's...... for racing, You must hate your money . Don’t get me wrong i love my camaro i loved it when it was STOCK. But since i decided to make the thing haul *** this car continuously bring up new challenges. From the Shitty rear end to the weak transmission to the disgustingly weak frame and the list goes on and on. And to talk down about a 04 cobra is just retarded. I'm not even going to go into examples why. When my car is finally done i will defiantly be proud of why i accomplished but if i were to just buy a 86 Malibu and dump a nice motor and rear end i would be right where i am now for HUNDREDS of dollars less. All that non sense about selling my camaro and buying a Honda is just un necessary and shows how ignorant your logic is. The best car hands down from gm during the 80’s was the grand national you know it and so does ever one else on the his board.

 

im not saying the grand nat wasnt good (89 tta was better), or that the cobra is slow. i know its a very fast mustang. but attn- this is thirdgengen.org most on here love the thirdgens (duh) youre puting them down because youre not happy with youre build. and yes i would rather build a gta or an iroc for "racing" other than a g-body. i prefer the 3rd gen, and thats why i own 2.. and other cars as well. my m3 is faster than my t/a(4 now) but i dosent make my hate my t/a. i just makes me put on a sc
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i just want to say after reading my post over, that yes i f***ing love grand nationals. and most other gm muscle cars.. but im obsessed with the f-body.