anyone else feel like they dont get any respect from anyone while driving your 3rd gen? happens to me everyday some dumbass in a saturn honda or nissan thinks he can take me cause my car looks like a piece, but the engine isnt. the look on their face when i romp on it is priceless though.

it happens cause there are many thirdgen owners out there thinking they have something special cause it's a V8 and so they are untouchable even though they only have a lg4 that isn't in the greatest tune. still though v8 and v8 always wins right?

that and those kids who end up running their mouth over everything that isn't a chevy.

they make the rest of the thirdgen crowd look bad. part of the reason for all the stereotypes against thirdgen owners. just think of it this way though. if you do have something special it goes in your favor as they won't expect it

mines not special by no means, except to me. still a rice burner though. everyone where i live thinks that if they put a turbo on their car with nothing else it will kill anything. only thing ive done to the t/a is put a shift kit in it and a pair of slp runners not even ported. still slower than the lsx and ltx but better than there 4 cylinders.

you live in the wrong state..

in hawaii, when it comes to cars, everyone has respect for one another.. unless you are reckless on the street or just a plain donkey.. it comes down to the kind of person you are.. if you cruise and dont cause trouble, its all good in every neighborhood.. i've gone to some pretty shady towns and never got a bad look.. heck, the police even compliment me.. and i'm only 19..

you would think, a kid with a car that f-ing loud(one of maui's loudest streetcars) would be racing and raising hell all over the place.. but i'm one of the safest drivers i know.. dont get me wrong, i still do raise hell but i'm smart about it.. strictly on the highway or roads that i know well.. places where if something goes wrong, worst case is only myself will get hurt..

I agree that I dont have respect for most third gen anything anyone that has a v8 in my area just puts on the biggest pipes they can have and just drone around and rev their engine at everything its almost funny like u said a v8 doesnt mean your fast

Dose V 12 mean fast?

i live in long island new york. and these days thirdgens are getting more respect than ever. we have several clubs also. maybe its because we have alot of guys here that are building and modifiying these cars awesome. from mild and stock appering to wild wheel standers. we also have car shows and swap meets 3-5 times a week..most ricers are scared sh**less of us at the local strip.

definatly, jersey man muscle rules the road and the ricers know it... some of my best friends drive ricers but they know if a V8 put in the same amount of work they do theyd be crushed... 3rd gens by me get nothing but respect from all walks of life hell if you drive american made by me you even have less chance to get pulled over by the cops... well thats not true they do occasionally like to say how nice your car is and challenge you to a race but... and theres nothing wrong with stickin with chevy i mean honestly if you watch closly enough each car company has a certain type of driver and im a chevy dude myself... 3rd gen all the way although my dad's 69 ss camaro kicks ****in *** too

Yeah, i haven't been pulled over yet.. and thats miraculous lol. But, like most people have said if u drive smart then you should be ok and yeah. I LOVE the people with tuners that are even N/A at my school who say they roast people and when i see them romp on it they go about 20, not that im saying tuners are bad but there are some bad and good ones.

Anyway, Yeah no respect is absolutely true these damn people cant see potential in any other car then a Honda, So my car needs paint and a little work they say its a POS they look at a honda with bullet holes in it and say it has potential so go figure. Either way the only people who get respect around here are the 5-slows fast or not everyone creams in there pants over them, i dont understand.

I hear you guys, there is no respect in this place at all. I do nothing but try to show my respect to other third gen owners with nods, waves, etc. and what do I get in return.......NOTHING, they just drive right by. This has happened too many times. So if third gen owners here dont even respect eachother, then you can almost assume nobody else respects them.

well high school kids a pretty stupid, from what ur telling us. kids dont know squat about cars these days. they watch to many rap videos. dont mind them just keep working on youre car and smoke em all..

Yeah, from where im from me and my friends look in terms of the muscle car days, we see horsepower from rust, and handling from bald tires in a sense. This new crowd is just.. Irritating, i go to a trade school with 5 diff towns and the ones from taunton.. O M G kid with an escort said hed roast me, only to be beaten by a v6 stang the next day and he hasnt said a word since.. They think that since theres a little needle on the dash that go's up alot they have fast cars. ITS ridiculous, then i was trying to explain to him how things worked, and he just doesnt absorb any knowledge ( u can also know this kid has a 1100 sound system yet has wal mart hub caps Wth? lol) People in my generation are not car inclined, nor driving inclined BUT if anything it makes me more money as a tech the more people who dont know what to do and i fix there mistakes

I have to say one great thing about these cars is this. I had my vert on the road for 3 to 4 months before I totalled it. I had no cat and a loud flowmaster exhaust, I got pulled over once. The whole time I drove it I had no speedo either. I think cops don't care about the muscle cars nearly as much as ricers. The cop just asked me what I had in it, and he said you know the exhaust is illegal, but he let me go. I was pulling out of somewhere and my inside wheel spun supposably. I can't wait to get this one on the road, now it's even louder with a two chamber flowmaster. Bandit where are the swap meets your talking about, I need some interior peices to finish my car, i'd check them out when I get it on the road.
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I have to say part of me wishes I had a crx with motor swaps, just because of gas prices, and I make crap.

i can vouche for the cop part.. my exhaust is by NO means legal in any form or way.. only header inserts with piping exiting infront of the rear tires.. cops look at me, smile and wave.. but i live in hawaii.. cops LOVE muscle.. one night (about 12AM) i was going home after drags, doing about 65+ in a 55.. a cop catches me up, looks for a bit and takes off.. i almost crapped my pants.. musta been the numbers and dial in still written on the window.. but i was the only one on the highway.. a full 6 miles and the only other car was the cop..

my cousins husband, my brothers best friend, and another cousin are all cops.. and one of my good friend's father is a P.I. and knows pretty much the rest of the police..

when i was in high school(2 years ago) my friend had a 95 integra with a turbo b18(ran 11.9's with a chick driving) well he was a ***** so one night he had like A cup of wine and launched a curb to smash his entire exhaust.. he put a cherry bomb on it till he got the money to fix it and one day after school, he got pulled over for exhaust.. and i drove right past him while he was getting the ticket..

It's kinda funny, cause you get these kinds of posts on the J-body site I used to be on.

The best thing I can say is: Who cares? If you like your car, then that's all that should matter.

well, most high school kids dont know squat, thinkin there cool with their annoying fart cans and huge rear wings...

Makes me feel cool still being in high school and building up my second third gen all by myself with jackstand and a dirt/mud driveway. I smoke the rest of the auto tech class with knowledge pretty much, not many people my age I can deal with talking about cars. What people believe these days is crazy.

In order to see why you get no respect look at it from other POVs... Your car (mine too) is an 80s car, when most of the kids in the car scene today were 3-4 years old when they were made. They arent modern looking, aerodynamic, and compared to a lot of cars today (a LOT of family sedans) they are slow. GM made the mistake of offering a bunch of turd motors, and a few good ones. Most of the Thirdgens came with the turd motors, and never really had a huge following because of it. They have potential but today its all about boost and tuning, and buying a stock thirdgen and tossing a turbo on it isnt what these kids want to do. I am NOT saying they are right for not respecting them, they are just ignorant and blind.

The Mustang gets respect because of a few things. Either you got a 4 cyl, or you got the best motor they put in them. There werent 3-4 turd motor choices, but one good and one bad. The Mustang is in the same boat as the thirdgen looks wise. Its from the 80s, looks it and a lot of kids wont like that. The difference is there are soo many of them out there, there is bound to be one that look good, sounds good and you like. Not only that but they are also easy to make fast (not that Thirdgens arent, but a thirdgen might cost more to go faster, and most fox and thirdgen owners arent welthy individuals) and when there are tons of them out in the cruise scene, they are bound to race people and win sometimes. This leaves them as a benchmark to build your sower (stock) Honda to try and compete with. I know a lot of people with this attitude. These same people when Id mention thirdgen, they would probably laugh.

The last reason I will try and touch is the fact that these kids actually want to be the underdog, and I understand 100% why. I have been beating HCI cars with my stock heads and cam for a couple years now. The reason I like it and havent decided on what to do next is because being the underdog and beating the guy whose supposed to win is way more fun then just spending money and winning. Pulling up next to a car that should be faster (to me anyway) gives you a rush. You know you have to get it out of the hole and hit your gears dead nuts to beat him. If you lose, well you lost to a faster car, but if and when you win its a great feeling.

Telling the Honda people its cheaper to go faster in an American V8, is like me telling you its cheaper to go faster in an 89 notch. It is, but thats not what they like. They like the challenge and doing it their way.

Oh by the way most car enthisuasts are morons and ignorant anyway, so take that into account to!

I absolutly LOVE being the junkyard dog around here. I live in Southern Indiana and around here rice doesn't last long. There was one decently fast Acura Integra that ran nitrous but even that lost after about 2 days of running up the ranks. One thing I've really started to notice at the track however is that the rice cars are slowly getting weeded out and the serious imports are showing up week after week. I've seen a couple 10 second Acura's and Honda's not to mention the Lancers and such that are pulling low 12's. There's a definite bright side to the import crowd but Fast and the Furious gave us years of crap to deal with, thanks guys

I can say 100 percent that it was fast and the furious, at least for my group of friends. After that they all started showing interest in cars out of nowhere. It's pretty amazing, but it sucks for people like me. I really don't care for the noise, but I give them more than a little respect if it's fast not just loud.
TA that's pretty impressive, I don't have too much respect for b18s, but 11s with a chick driving is something. My friend put a lot of money in his gsr, and it was still slow. It felt kind of quick, but my old Taurus SHO sh it on it by a mile.
I'll be lucky to run high 11s when I swap rears, and I feel that I could've done it much cheaper with a honda, but that sound and the feeling better be worth it in the end.
I also have to say that I hardly ever see a nice thirdgen driving around by me that's a big reason they have no respect. I'm not about looks, but they do help.

/agree

i told one kid that his spinners from walmart made his car go faster and he believed me :P

I get 'nice trans-am' compliments a fair bit down here

People down here generally have no idea, but most people knew a neighbour who's uncle's second cousin had a corvette, or a mudstang, etc.

The maro is my daily driver so i get all kinds of funny things happen (looks, thumb up, etc).
I like the guys who roll around in their fart-can equipped, sticker covered econo cars. U can only hope a girl drives that kind of cute car when u see em, but thats rarely the case.

yea, i deff know what you mean about no respect, my cars not even on the road yet, but i got people saying that they are gonna beat me in their 92 oldsmobile cutless, or stuff like that.. or.. man that chevy is a piece.. but if they ever got the chance to check out my car, theyd actually get to see that its in really good shape, yea the paint aint that hot, but there isnt any rust on the car, and its got a pretty good lookin interior.. but they really dont care about that.. my own cousin was raggin on my car.. and he drives a 98 V6 mustang thats falling apart.. i dunno.. i love my car.. and ive never even driven it yet.

I purchased my car for myself, not for anyone else. If someone doesn't like my car, good for them.

i wonder how much a 94 civic will be worth on the auction block in 10 years
sh*t. a nice thirdgen iroc or gta????. my point is time will determine overall performance, value, desire and nastalgic value for all cars.. hhmmm 69 ss camaro or 76 toyota..

Agreed. On the value thing, well my opinion is that eventually, third gens will be worth a lot more money possibly like the first gens are. It may take a long while, and may not reach the point of six-figures like some big block Yenkos etc but i think their value will slide up.
Maybe not hacked-up RHD cars though.

The only time i'd be owning an import (Crapanese, not Bowtie) would be for a destruction derby car.

Well put. That's exactly how I feel. However, it really makes my day when someone who knows what they're looking at, or even if they really don't, gives a compliment. I've gotten "Nice Corvette!" more than once.

I agree with pretty much everything thats been said.Most of you seem to be from up north around New York and all.Down here,central Mississippi,most of the third gens are ragged out and slow.There are quite a few at the dragstrips that are really fast,but they`re not street cars.I do know of a few people who bought them new and had them garage kept and are mint condition.A couple even have them modded out the butt,but dont drive them.I`ve seen about three that have nice ones and drive them.That doesnt mean there isnt more.Most of them dont even wave or seem interested.Cant seem to find anyone to start a car club with(atleast american made,there is some import clubs and 4x4 groups)Everyone either has a truck with loud *** pipes or import with fart can.Fourth gens are everywhere and I get no respect from any of the above mentioned.I`ve got kids telling me there moms Grand Prix (not GTP) WILL SMOKE ME.I get tired of it.Thats why Ilove the looks on most of there faces.Car is pretty fast but I realize not the fastest.Paints faded but bodys straight.Just smoked a guy in an accord whos tag said SMOKNV8S.Maybe his nos bottle was empty.It wasnt even close.I do get nice car and what have you done to it,or is that a real Iroc,or is it a 350.Mostly from people my age or older.

That's how I am, I could care less what anyone else thinks of my car. I'm not about looks

The ***** kid across the street and his friend came up to me and asked what kind of car this is (pointing to the IROC).

Me: it's a Camaro...
Him: no it's not!
Me: Yeah... it says Z28 Here and IROC-Z... it's a Camaro
Him: No it's a Corvette!
Me: OK you got me... it's a Corvette.

You didn't know that IROC was a special limited edition Corvette?

This is a great post, keep the funny stories coming... lol

I would expect that crap down here, but not up there!
Nice!

69 camaro is nowhere near a thirdgen

Whether you get respect or not depends on a lot of things. Where you live, who you run around with, the condition of your vehicle, etc. That's why the answers are as different as they are.

My 91 RS was flawless and very shiny and clean in terms of the body of it. Couple that with a loud exhaust, and many people at my school thought it was very fast and I got a lot of respect and compliments on it. With the L03/700R4, it was all of a 15.7 second monster. :P

Now, my Cutlass on the other hand would absolutely obliterate the RS, but it's body has some faded paint and some dings here and there. It honestly sounds much better than the RS (headers, true duals and more cubes), but it looks it's age. No respect for it, except for black people, who ask me if it's for sale all the time, lol.

The bottom line is that it shouldn't really matter if you get respect. It's not very common to put the effort and time into maintaining a 20 year old car these days, and most people honestly don't understand it. But everyone in here (except for rx7speed, because he drives imports) should be proud of their older ride. It's your unique piece of workmanship and you're part of a dying breed. Enjoy it while you can.

hey I have been driving my domestic lately. woot woot 90 corsica.

and btw according to the laws my honda qualifies as a classic

think everyone has a point. unless you have done something drastic to your 3rd gen everyone just looks at you like you driving garbage. my 88 t/a is yellow with black fading stripes. dont look the greatest. but with 3" catback exhaust on the 305 lt1 heads turn when you take off at the line like a bat out of he**. then you do have to have your music. you know all that classic rock pouring out of 2-12" subs and then your tweeters. got to keep that head up and remember WE LOVE our f-body's.

ive never gotten a lot of respect in my 86 t/a but once i put a blowmaster cat-back on it everyone always complemented it and asked if it was a 350 and some even asked if it was a v6 i mean it had a stock lg4 but damn cant you atleast tell the differance between the sound of a 8 and a 6? most would always refer to my t/a as my "camaro" and i would correct them and they would be ike same thing and i would agree but then explain the differances but they dont listen so i dont bother. heck i get people that call my 98 camaro a firebird and it even says CAMARO on the back but even that car gets no respect just cause its a v6 but ive surprised many with the potential of the lil 3.8. most of my friends have gained more respet for the t/a though since now body is almost done and eversence i took it out with open longtubes my mildly built 305 is the fastest thing in our area

thats true good thing i got both lol well actually my dad has the 69ss but thats ok my only goal is to have the faster camaro and thats no problem.

I only get respect from adults and a few kids in my school. Alot of em seem to think they will destroy me with their hondas. Ive done some fun races just for the hell of it with my friends, and surprised the hell outta them. My friend with his honda tried keeping up with me and couldnt, he got into the triple digit speeds and I never went over 80, corners kill most people in races. But most kids dont know crap about cars around here, I just act like Im listening when Im really thinking "shut up you dont even know what your saying." Its quite funny though, all of them trying to make there little 80-100hp cars fast.

There isn't a lot of respect for third gens up here in Wisconsin either. Every once in a while when I pass another Iroc I will get a wave or a nod but thats it. The other day, a kid in school came up to me and tried to tell me my L98 had throttle body injection on it . People in non-turbo imports try to race me all the time at the lights in my town and I just look at their cars, bust out laughing, and tell them that they wish they could keep up with me.

I can be going 65 in a 55 and i still get passed. Just the other day I was going 40 in a 35, where cops are always sitting.... and a Ford explorer Passed me. I let him go. If i dont know the person, i let them pass... But if its somebody I know, when I see the blinker come on I get on the throttle.

Everyone at school wants me to Street race them or somebody else... And their cars are JUNK.. I usually ask them, Why Risk gettin pulled over and all that bs, When you already know you can beat most of the cars on the street?

But anyway, It really Pi$$es me off when people pass me.. I think I should start Blowing doors on people and get people to realize what those camaros can do.. But It sucks to get pulled over..

hahaha, they spend so much money, only to be beat by a stock thirdgen...

HiPerf_Chevyman where do you live? You need to pick one of the kids who is supposedly fast, find a desolate road and make sure there's a start and a finish line. Do it once and be done with it. Where I'm from we have specific spots we race with pull offs for the finish line, and the start; all open, wide country roads. I can't stand it when people do roll races on the highway, or race from stoplight to stoplight. That's what gives street racing such a bad name. Acceleration isn't so dangerous, doing 120 in a car that takes 30 seconds to get there and probably twice that to slow back down IS. Our cars are built for real American racing. They're great from a dig if you can handle your car. As for people passing you, let them, give them a big smile; then later play the nice guy ask them how fast there car really is and take them to said desolate road

I get a 50/50 for what you guys talk about. I hang with a few import guys who have some serious power. They disregareded me at first and really weren't interested in what I was driving, regardless of mileage and impecable condition. After we set up short (and within legal speed limit) high way pulls, they became more interested.

Bums in Newport, RI like my T/A. Some ladies love it, some hate it. I'm assuming that is because of the association with Bud Light and ******s. Most of the older crowd think its great that a younger guy loves his 20 year old car as much as he would a good job. Coming to younger generation who have Hondas, Acuras, and Nissans- I'm an outcast.

Yes, I will get smoked by an SR20DET 240sx, but at least we had a small bout before he hit boost. I even got an, "I'm really suprised you hung with me as long as you did," before. Like it was mentioned before, I know my car is quick- it certainly isn't fast- but when I get next to a car that has good stats and I pull on it or hang with it respectably, I'm a happy guy.

Well, Ive always thought about it like this. My car Is the same age I am, I was Produced in 1988, so was my car. thats a 19 year old Car. Now these kids with these new cars dont really look at what our cars did back when they were new. With all the New technology of yesterday, which today is Considered Like basics. And for our cars to be able to beat many cars off the line/longrun today, I think thats Pretty cool. I mean, I havent seen a 1988 Honda/toyota/nissan/whatever import Around here in the past 5 years... So what should that tell you? a Stock 1988 Import Vehical wouldnt even stand a chance against a Stock 1988 L03..

When American cars were made with american made parts, That was a Real Car. However all cars today should be considered as an Import to a certain degree. A 2007 Mustang goes for $17,000... Why so cheap? Well, Cheap labor/cheaper parts. If the 2007 mustang was made 100% in america by americans the Cost of that car would be more like $45,000.

Am I wrong?

About getting respect and 'props' from people...

I seem to get the most attention from bums (yes, bums) and the older, going slightly senile population. Do you guys ever experience this?

I think alot of it depends on your location and how old you are. I might just be lucky but down here in NC I get head turns all day. I was sittin' at cook-out one night and the manager of a local car show around here circled my car a few times talkin on his Nextel and pulled over and told me "Man this is one good lookin' Camaro, you don't see many in this condition, don't ever sell this car man you will regret it!". Most people that come up to me about my car are usually older and most reply with "Yeah man this car was the thing back then!". I wouldn't know because I'm only 17. *****'s don't really mess with me for some odd reason but I do get alot of looks from them. Not sure if their good or not. The Camaro population around here either consists of stock daily drivers or fourth gen SS's with vette wheels and loud exhaust but they give me a thumbs up every time! (Don't even get me started on the girls around here, they LOVE my camaro even though a few got in and was like "Is this a Ford Camaro?"... Or the good classic "Oh my gosh its sooooo cool is this a Corvette??"

Yeah in N.C. where I am too I get thumbs up and people coming up to me and saying that's a nice Camaro. You don't really see nice 3rd gens around here too much. So I guess when people see one thats not rusted out , body parts missing, mis-match wheels, strange colors they are shocked. I love 4th gen Camaros but they are a dime a dozen around here, it's nice to have something different.