alright heres the deal... .. a "friend" (if you could call him that) recently picked up a brand spanking new v8 mustang. the engine is bone stock but the body is as riced out as it could get. i mean a p.o.s. fiberglass body kit, fake hood scoop, useless hood pins ect. he even took his cat out to make it a more obnoxious machine. now the thing is that he thinks this thing is all that. like some stock v8 makes his d!c# grow.
so i want to put him in his place.
i've got a v6 88 rs camaro.
i know the odds are against me but i want to know what mods and such i could put on to beat a stock v8 mustang.
he'd be heartbroken to know he was beaten by a v6.... and aa chevy... obviously he''s a ford fanatic so any suggestions please..... he needs to shut up about how great his car is.

another thing... he has a 5-speed he can barely drive and i have an automatic untill i get the extra time to convert it to a 5 speed

heres a pic of it before he out the gay underbody lights in it



and heres mine


heres

 

you must have ALOT of time! lol

 

175 shot and a set of slicks or go by a stock ls1 car

 

what do you mean?

and i'd like to use the car i own, there has to bbe some bolt on upgrades just to whoop him for 1 race

 

its been said. nitrous. one race, blow him away.

 

not with a 2.8 sorry to say... u'd be better off just swapping w/ a LT1 stroker or LS1 for the price it would take to beat him modding a 2.8

 

I dont think you could beat one even if u had nitrous slap a turbo on it and run like 10 psi lol or get a ls1 car and just whop him at like 1/2 throttle

 

so basicaly slap some nitrous and a turbo on then? i've been thinking about buying a bigger engine and maybe a body with t tops but i thought it would have just wiped the smirk off his face to get stomped by a 6 cylinder camaro
anyway thanks for the suggestions

 

if he can't drive his 5 speed for **** then just use a little nitrous or maybe you could just get him if he doesn't know how to launch. or you could get him to buy some huge sound system to weigh his car down enough for you to beat him lol.

 

turbo v6 ftw

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Lil-v6-camaro_184829.htm

 

ha that wouldn't be hard to do as he's looking for some rediculous sub setup to replace his back seats

cool thanks i'll get lookin for turbo and a nitros setup

i can't wait

oh and does anybody know how much nitrous a v6 can handle with stock heads....

 

if i can make 400 ish hp with a turbo i would imagine u could do a 200 or 250 shot on the v6 with the proper setup

 

and what does the proper setup consist of?
i've never done nitrous in any vehicle before this

 

proper ignition system and ability to retard the timming when the nitrous is active
making sure the fuel system can supply the necasary fuel so it dosent go lean

and all the proper saftey stuff fot the nitrous system wot switch fuel presure shutoff switch etc

 

Im an f-body guy, but i think he might have you for the time being. your buddy would be around 14-15 seconds in da 1/4. You might just have to live with this until you get a V8.

It does not always have to be a pissing contest...lol. Just enjoy your car for what it is and understand its potential.

 

do you know of anywhere, possibly the internet, that i can go to find how to properly install all of this. last thing i need is to blow up my engine while racing this kid

 

msd box with timming retard capabilitys
and call up nos and they can set u up with the stuff u need for the nitrous install

more then likley u will need to swap out the stock pump for a walboro 255 i belive the stock pump will only support just under or over 300 hp

 

your in ct so check out http://www.necamaro-firebird.org/forum/
I'm pretty sure we have a few members running nitrous so maybe someone would be willing to help you out.

 

thanks i'll see what i can find.

 

Thats not a brand spanking new mustang.If my eyes are working that looks like a 96-98 model.Thats the slowest ones IIRC.Unless it`s a cobra.Not slow enough to loose to a 2.8 but the first years of the 4.6 were horrible for ford.The 95 was the last year to have the 5.0 and it had the new body style so that could be one of them but I doubt it.Do you know what year it is?You could beat him with turbo or nitrous but it want just be as simple as bolting on a few parts.And it may be the last race that engine runs.

 

as bad as i hate to agree i have a 97 stang now i have to defend it in that it has been extremly reliable quick maybe but fast no although my first car was a 2.8 bird and it was no where near quick the guy will get beat by a few honda's that will put him in his place

 

you cant beat him without cheating, the only thing i can think of to make you win is nitrous or cheating. id say if your a bad ****, you can drive reckless as hell, you can scare him into slowing down

 

haha he is gonna have to scare him fast or the stang will be too far away to scare

 

yeah i'm not sure of the year... he claimed it as new so i don't know, definitly not a cobra or a gt. id hear if it was the way he talks this thing up

and i'd rather not risk ruining my engine for a race so i think i'll just swap my engine.

any ideas on a v6 that would win?
i kinda want to keep the v6 for insurance reasons...for now

 

You don't have to keep the v6 for insurance reasons. The insurance company does not have to know you have a v8. All they have to know is your VIN.
That said, if you want a V6 and want to keep your stock v6 transmission, you need to stay with a 60* v6 so that it can bolt properly to the trans. The 3.4L from the 93-95 firebirds and camaros along with the aluminum heads from a 2000 grand am gt or impala will help in that respect.

 

this whole thread is a waste, no offense, but youre 2.8 will probably blow sky high with nitrous. how many miles are on it? think of it this way, youll spend 500 bucks hookin up a nos system, then you will blow youre motor. And will have to replace the motor, or sell the car for nothing because of the blown motor. so yu can lose $500 on nos, youre whole car $1500-$3000 and lose the race... Dont even bother.. Sell the car and buy a v8 thirdgen.

 

then dont bother racing him...you HAVE a v6 a4 heavier car..

the Only way u can win is if he cant drive for beans...wich is possiable

 

The only way you're winning this race is if you politely ask him to race you in reverse. And even then it's iffy.......

 

is this a possible joke? Ive been seeing alot of weird threads started by younger kids, but WTF is in high school lunches these days?

 

Hate to break it to the OP but his "gay car" beats yours .

Always will unless you swap a v8 into your car.

 

well thanks anyways guys,

 

This site protects them. If you ever get the slight urge to ridicule someone for posting up something ultimately gay, like this thread, you will be bitched at. So watch out.

How could people actually continue this thread, encouraging this guy to put nitrous on his V6 camaro? Like that's EVER going to happen. What a waste of time.

 

it was more an idea than anything, i knew i wouldn't end up putting nitrous in my v6, i was merely hopeing there was some upgrade to give me a slim chance. if i lost, whatever i got a v6, but if i won he'd never brag again.

but i get his car beats mine for the time being.... until i get a v8 i guess.

for all who tried to help, thanks

for all who called this a stupid thread, why'd you bother posting anything
this is called a hypothetical forum isn't it?

 

This "Theoretical and Street Racing" board is a joke and they should get rid of it, its really gives thirdgen.org a pretty crappy stereotype. Every post in here is a joke. Pretty much all the threads started turn out to be a mustang vs camaro or ***** vs camaro bashing contest.

 

see thats just the thing, have nothing against mustangs, i think a mustang done up is a force to be reconed with, and the r1cer? i've driven a honda civic with more zip than most camaros, it was more i wanted to shut the owner up.
never meant to bash on anyone.

 

Wow. I can't believe there is another sensible thirdgen.org member on this site. Few and far between. In the past year or two, this site has went completely down hill. There are so many garbage posts here it's not even funny. I used to come here often, now it's a rarity. There aren't really even that many useful threads that I would actually spend my time responding to. If you're going to come in here and post thread titles like "how to take down a fool" you deserve to be ridiculed. Furthermore, what has happened to the English language? It's not that hard to use capitalization and punctuation. It's really difficult to put in the time in responding to someone who can't put in the effort and time to ask the question properly. The second you try to weed out some 15 year old dumb *** you get yelled at. Oh well, I'm done ranting about this place for now. I'll let the 500hp 305's get back to owning the streets.

 

nothing wrong with a good joke or two and its a forum not an english paper

 

You know, thats a good point

this forum is for recreation, informative sources, etc.
Nobody likes a forum ****


As for the "15 year old dumb ***" comment, I find that aimed towards all teenagers on here which I find offensive and stereotypical to an extent.
I am almost 17, however I'm far from being a "dumb ***"

I don't mean to be rude or out of line here, but c'mon buddy get off your
high-horse and have a little respect.


Sorry for taking this thread more off topic than before, but I felt it was necessary to say what I said.

 

 

Ya, this thread is a waste of time, and here i am posting on it.... just wanted to say that there is no way your going to hold your own against a v8. NOS is completely out of the question, the cost it would take for the nos AND the rebuild of your motor isn't worth it, you could get a 350 and mod it and have a lot better chance. only advice i can give if you truely want to race him is this, if your on the right, and he on the left, the minute you guys hit the gas take a sharp left hand turn, if your lucky you'll run him off the road and then you can win! =D <-- not advisable though lol

 

The biggest problem with thirdgens is that they 'look' fast, even if it's a v6, but some people don't know better, so think they're the s*it, when in reality a mediocre 6 banger in a 3500 lbs car is a terrible combination.

The thirdgen's have enough of a trailer park stigma, young drivers in 4-6 cylinger cars 'racing' isn't really helping.

That's just my opinion.

 

See now if I'd known people would start getting all prissy about a hypothetical post i just wouldn't have bothered. i just wanted to know if it'd be possible, not whether or not you though these posts are dumb. i could care less if you think my spelling or grammar is bad or whatever.

just a question

thats it, and i understand a 2.8 v6 isn't a fast engine. nor did i truly expect to get to many serious answers

 

Why don't you just ****-talk back to him all the while acting like he's not even worth racing.

We're talking about trying to figure out how to beat a crappy car with an even crappier one.

Not worth the time, trouble, or money (imo).

 

Even riced the way it is the mustang gets the win against your v6. I've owned a 2.8 and must say it left me with a supreme distaste for the engine. Your car will be outrun by lumina's and Ford windstar mini vans every time. Given the fact that you seem to know litte to nothing about your engine or its "performace" capabilities, I'd say save your money for a good v8 swap. Let your friend talk all the crap he wishes while you save, then swap in the v8/tranny combo of your choice and put a hurt'n on him. He has the absolute worst of the 4.6's if its stock. Crappy heads, plastic intake, horrible exhaust all make for low to high 15 second gt's. Now if he's gotten (or the previous owner for that matter) the PI swap from the 4 valve 4.6's then your in some serious trouble as Ford addressed all the problems w/the 96-97's (minus exhaust.. its still crappy) with the engines and finally got it right. Good luck is all I can say and I dont think that even with nitrous you'd do more than blow your engine. But hey I could be wrong... its happened before... just not that often.

 

thank you for the honesty,
i didn't really expect to win, i knew a 2.8 really isn't a racing engine. i'm currently looking into a good v8 swap, thinking 305 over 350 though (personal preference)
i'll just let him talk until i swap, i'll let him think i've still got the v6
tell him i'm sick of his sh?tty car and chalenge him to a race. and when i win i'd just shout that he got beat by a v6

so i guess the question now really is, would i beat him with a basic 305 or would i need to put on some performance parts? or would it be better to just get a 350

i'd rather the smaller engine, seeing as i drive kind of like a maniac sometimes and too much power would probably get me killed
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i'm 90% sure he hasn't done this as i've already said his engine is bone stock
and i'm pretty sure the fastest he's ever gotten his car to was 115....

 

i hear if you rub cheetah blood all over your car you might have a chance

 

If you are indeed a maniac driver, you don't need a 350 or 305.
You need the bus.

 

Like I said earlier, this site is filled with them.

 

x2......by the time your done building a mean 2.8L turbo'd car(thats what its going to take), you should just drop a ls1 in lol

case in point, buddy goes ***** out and builds a 4.3L up. Im talking forged pistons, rods, crank, head work, aftermarket TBI setup, intake, headers and more. I run him in my LG4 that has 175,xxx miles.....i have edlebrock rpm intake, holley carb/ shorty headers....and i wasted him time and time again.

So lesson of story
worn out mod'd 305>built to the hilt 4.3L


So.....you 2.8 has no chance

 

I can't believe we are still talking about a 2.8L V6.