VID OF MY HOT CAM LT1 IROC VS CAMMED 306 MUSTANG
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mustang can be considered a better platform because of its weight advantage. you can get a coupe down to 2700lbs fairly easy. wont be able to do that with an f-body without lots and lots of cutting or plastic windows.
however, i will say that there is a whole lot of mustang guys who wish they had a torque arm suspension.
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My trans guy has a 408 stroker in a 67 Chevelle, and he says he went through 2 700r4'S within a 9 month period, that is his reason why he recommends the 200r4, also he says there is far more gear adjustability with the 200r4 ?? I would prefer to use the 4l60e myself since I already have it. BTW... my engine builder , who specializes in LT1 build ups, also told me to stay away from the 700r4 in particular as he races his own cars with LT1's, but he switched to the T56-6 speed.
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nah i havent had any problems with the 700 yet,if your gonna go with a 700r4 your gonna have to pull the tail shaft housing off and pull the speedo gears and replace them with the reluctor gear and vss sensor from a 4l60e,you will also need a 93 lt1 throttle bracket & throttle body or you'll have to fab something up with the tv cable,and lastly you'll have to have some transmission codes disabled in your pcm,if you got a good 4l60e i would use that if i were you ,lots easier,hope this helps.
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wow, he called me a boy, dont be tryin to pick a little fight with me, I myself love to see a 3rd gen put a mustang in the dirt, but there is no need to argue about this, maybe the guy in the mustang told him he had all these things done to it trying to impress him. But all that matters here is that he won, simple as that the mustang got beat.
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o yea and the 200r4's are known to hold 500hp in stock form.
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wow, he called me a boy, dont be tryin to pick a little fight with me, I myself love to see a 3rd gen put a mustang in the dirt, but there is no need to argue about this, maybe the guy in the mustang told him he had all these things done to it trying to impress him. But all that matters here is that he won, simple as that the mustang got beat.
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I get this now, but then again why are we talking about could haves and would haves?
I assumed you knew the mods of every Mustang you raced, which is where my whole point stemmed from. Without knowing everything done to the other car, the race is fun and all but proves very little...
I also have NO idea about all the little boy comments... so... yeah I guess.
I assumed you knew the mods of every Mustang you raced, which is where my whole point stemmed from. Without knowing everything done to the other car, the race is fun and all but proves very little...
I also have NO idea about all the little boy comments... so... yeah I guess.
Ok let me point some things out.... For one 25th not trying to be a **** but CLEARLY you are defending stangs to the death, you talk about how it takes little mods to get a stang fast and now your changing your story to it takes quite a bit (that's how its coming off) make up your mind.... Stang got beat bottom line.... it always comes down to how much money/ work you want to put into your car.... Again not trying to be a jerk but really make up your mind..... and i agree with bmfIROC-Z you are always in the Theoretical and street racing forums trying to discredit F-bodys of a win over a stang. Not always but what i have seen, most of the time.... No hard feelings man but i mean come on dude, Really?
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I get this now, but then again why are we talking about could haves and would haves?
I assumed you knew the mods of every Mustang you raced, which is where my whole point stemmed from. Without knowing everything done to the other car, the race is fun and all but proves very little...
I assumed you knew the mods of every Mustang you raced, which is where my whole point stemmed from. Without knowing everything done to the other car, the race is fun and all but proves very little...
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Me vs a 88 gt 5.0 306 huge cam,full suspension,full bolt on mustang,my car looks kinda crappy cause im in the middle of getting it ready for paint next week,but a good race none the less.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aluCV...e=channel_page
Nice kill.
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No but a 80 rwhp or so doesn't seem like too big of an issue.
This race does in fact prove the Mustang got beat. I never said it didn't. What I wanted to know was what mods did the Mustang have completely. It changes the dynamics of the race. If the car had stock heads, it's still a win, but an expected win. If the car had some nice ported aluminum heads, it makes his win that much more impressive.
I guess trying to explain this now is a mute point, but it's the truth.
Oh well, I keep some of the threads more interesting than just... "sweet kill man". Unless thats all you wanted to hear, 14 replys saying good kill? If thats the case, I guess I never realized that was all we were allowed to do???
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I'm with 25th on this, these threads wouldn't even be worth looking at without some opposing opinion.
NICE KILL........lol.
NICE KILL........lol.
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True story.
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Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill. Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill, Nice kill,Nice kill, Nice kill.
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If you ask me, I think the AMC Gremlin beat both of them. Damn thing was so fast the video couldn't even catch it, it was that tiny little "speck" that resembled dust about five seconds before both cars passed....!
No excuses, Camaro won, hands down, like dat, nuff said....
No excuses, Camaro won, hands down, like dat, nuff said....
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If you ask me, I think the AMC Gremlin beat both of them. Damn thing was so fast the video couldn't even catch it, it was that tiny little "speck" that resembled dust about five seconds before both cars passed....!
No excuses, Camaro won, hands down, like dat, nuff said....
No excuses, Camaro won, hands down, like dat, nuff said....
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25thmustang, do you really think he's still running the stock valve springs? Stock heads maybe, but if the cams big enough to be pretty noticeable at idle, and it sounds like he went through the whole motor, why would he not at least change the springs? How much lift can you run on the stock 302 heads anyway?
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@ the end of the video. Would have loved to have seen the start of the race, I'm thinking you left him good on the launch?
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25thmustang, do you really think he's still running the stock valve springs? Stock heads maybe, but if the cams big enough to be pretty noticeable at idle, and it sounds like he went through the whole motor, why would he not at least change the springs? How much lift can you run on the stock 302 heads anyway?
I also never said the Mustang won, not sure why people keep saying that. He lost, and it is very very obvious. But going by the mod lists for his car that was posted... the win was expected!
Again nice kill, but find out if the guy had some good aftermarket heads, and it adds value to YOUR kill.
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I would think if the guy had done mods such as that, he would have mentioned them before mentioning a coolant bypass line... Once again, we were given a mod list for a car, and using that mod list I made my comments.
I also never said the Mustang won, not sure why people keep saying that. He lost, and it is very very obvious. But going by the mod lists for his car that was posted... the win was expected!
Again nice kill, but find out if the guy had some good aftermarket heads, and it adds value to YOUR kill.
I also never said the Mustang won, not sure why people keep saying that. He lost, and it is very very obvious. But going by the mod lists for his car that was posted... the win was expected!
Again nice kill, but find out if the guy had some good aftermarket heads, and it adds value to YOUR kill.
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Guess you and I check out different mods on a car we plan to race? No worries there, find out, would make your kill something more fun to brag about (at least I personally would be happier to beat a car with more mods than less).
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Haha too bad guys dont put a detailed build sheet of their motor and car on their window or something and give you a copy for your personal records!
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Not picking on you, but do you honestly think everyone tells the truth about their mods? I know a lot of people with slow cars that are all hush hush about their mods... it might hurt their "street cred" if people really knew what they had. In reality, they just don't want to be butt hurt because their cars are slow for the mods/money invested.
I am mostly truthful about my mods, but I don't give away every detail. My cam is a proprietary grind - you want one? I will give you the contact info and you can go buy one, I did. That is my POV on it anyhow, the same goes for my tune. It's not rocket science, but the shop did lots of research and R&D - they shouldn't have to give away their hard work for free. JMHO
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He opened his hood, to let the OP see under there. You think he planned to "hide" what heads he has? Unless he went through a lot to hide it with the hood up? Almost all aftermarket head manufacturers have a logo right on the front of them, carved into the aluminum.
Maybe I am asking too much, and maybe the OP doesn't care what heads the car has. If thats the case, no worries. I personally try and find this info out when I race someone that I am interested in beating!
Carry on.
Maybe I am asking too much, and maybe the OP doesn't care what heads the car has. If thats the case, no worries. I personally try and find this info out when I race someone that I am interested in beating!
Carry on.
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Not picking on you, but do you honestly think everyone tells the truth about their mods? I know a lot of people with slow cars that are all hush hush about their mods... it might hurt their "street cred" if people really knew what they had. In reality, they just don't want to be butt hurt because their cars are slow for the mods/money invested.
I am mostly truthful about my mods, but I don't give away every detail. My cam is a proprietary grind - you want one? I will give you the contact info and you can go buy one, I did. That is my POV on it anyhow, the same goes for my tune. It's not rocket science, but the shop did lots of research and R&D - they shouldn't have to give away their hard work for free. JMHO
I am mostly truthful about my mods, but I don't give away every detail. My cam is a proprietary grind - you want one? I will give you the contact info and you can go buy one, I did. That is my POV on it anyhow, the same goes for my tune. It's not rocket science, but the shop did lots of research and R&D - they shouldn't have to give away their hard work for free. JMHO
25th you should join the band wagon and buy a third gen I know you thought about it considering your love for Thirdgen.org.
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and I agree stock heads or not a freaking win is a win. Give the damn guy some credit!
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I guess thats your guys mentality, but then again I like beating people with more mods, and more power... Thats why I find out what the other car had done. More than once I beat the "faster" car. Why would you race a car you don't know the story on. At the end, sure you won, but you might have beat a 150 hp car... I guess you take the wins you can get, but I put more into my wins than just that, hard to explain to those who will never understand!
Not sure who is getting "butt hurt", and I could care less a Mustang lost. He did lose, I told him it was a nice win, more than once.
I'm glad my posting gives you guys something to come on here, and become united about. Makes me feel good.
I have also debated buying a thirdgen and trying to make it fast for cheap. But then I realized I have other things to spend money on, and tossed that idea. I already have a car I can mod if I want, why get another, or sell mine for something else?
Not sure who is getting "butt hurt", and I could care less a Mustang lost. He did lose, I told him it was a nice win, more than once.
I'm glad my posting gives you guys something to come on here, and become united about. Makes me feel good.
I have also debated buying a thirdgen and trying to make it fast for cheap. But then I realized I have other things to spend money on, and tossed that idea. I already have a car I can mod if I want, why get another, or sell mine for something else?
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I guess thats your guys mentality, but then again I like beating people with more mods, and more power... Thats why I find out what the other car had done. More than once I beat the "faster" car. Why would you race a car you don't know the story on. At the end, sure you won, but you might have beat a 150 hp car... I guess you take the wins you can get, but I put more into my wins than just that, hard to explain to those who will never understand!
Not sure who is getting "butt hurt", and I could care less a Mustang lost. He did lose, I told him it was a nice win, more than once.
I'm glad my posting gives you guys something to come on here, and become united about. Makes me feel good.
I have also debated buying a thirdgen and trying to make it fast for cheap. But then I realized I have other things to spend money on, and tossed that idea. I already have a car I can mod if I want, why get another, or sell mine for something else?
Not sure who is getting "butt hurt", and I could care less a Mustang lost. He did lose, I told him it was a nice win, more than once.
I'm glad my posting gives you guys something to come on here, and become united about. Makes me feel good.
I have also debated buying a thirdgen and trying to make it fast for cheap. But then I realized I have other things to spend money on, and tossed that idea. I already have a car I can mod if I want, why get another, or sell mine for something else?
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I guess thats your guys mentality, but then again I like beating people with more mods, and more power... Thats why I find out what the other car had done. More than once I beat the "faster" car. Why would you race a car you don't know the story on. At the end, sure you won, but you might have beat a 150 hp car... I guess you take the wins you can get, but I put more into my wins than just that, hard to explain to those who will never understand!
Not sure who is getting "butt hurt", and I could care less a Mustang lost. He did lose, I told him it was a nice win, more than once.
I'm glad my posting gives you guys something to come on here, and become united about. Makes me feel good.
I have also debated buying a thirdgen and trying to make it fast for cheap. But then I realized I have other things to spend money on, and tossed that idea. I already have a car I can mod if I want, why get another, or sell mine for something else?
Not sure who is getting "butt hurt", and I could care less a Mustang lost. He did lose, I told him it was a nice win, more than once.
I'm glad my posting gives you guys something to come on here, and become united about. Makes me feel good.
I have also debated buying a thirdgen and trying to make it fast for cheap. But then I realized I have other things to spend money on, and tossed that idea. I already have a car I can mod if I want, why get another, or sell mine for something else?
"Hey, nice mustang. Wanna run?"
"Depends, what heads ya got?"
"Uhh....edelbrocks?"
"Hmmmm.....what cam?"
"Well, it's a flat tappet around .550 lift..."
"What's your timing set at?"
Meanwhile, the light's turned green, and people are honking behind them....
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LOL yeah, I can picture 25th at a red stoplight right now:
"Hey, nice mustang. Wanna run?"
"Depends, what heads ya got?"
"Uhh....edelbrocks?"
"Hmmmm.....what cam?"
"Well, it's a flat tappet around .550 lift..."
"What's your timing set at?"
Meanwhile, the light's turned green, and people are honking behind them....
"Hey, nice mustang. Wanna run?"
"Depends, what heads ya got?"
"Uhh....edelbrocks?"
"Hmmmm.....what cam?"
"Well, it's a flat tappet around .550 lift..."
"What's your timing set at?"
Meanwhile, the light's turned green, and people are honking behind them....
Keep trying though, I will continue to explain the flaws in your scenarios. This is fun!
Also, no thirdgen for me, I plan to buy and mod nicer, newer cars when I'm done with the fox body...