Hey,
I am curious who would win in a race TBI or TPI. Im not saying with Richard Petty driving the TPI and Gordon (loser) driving the TBI. I am asking the opinion of all "thirdgeners" who would take the taco in the 1/4. I myself dont have either of these I am a proud owner of a gas sucking carb however I do have a crossfire. If I had to pick out of TBI and TPI I would have to say TPI on top even if the TBI has "The Ultimate Mods" (what are the ultimate mods anyways) So who do you guys say... and please no BS about cam and heads

 

Are you kidding?

92 Z28 5.0 auto 2.73 1/4mile 14.9@93
92 RS 5.0 auto 2.73 1/4mile 16.4@85

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1990 Trans Am GTA,Black/Black Leather,350,auto 3.23,Dual Cats,
SLP Package,Brand New Trans with Corvette 2400 stall,Servo/Shift Kit Fastchip,GSC's
G-tech 0-60 5.1 1/4mile 13.6@104(Before Trans&Roasting 1st)
stock(track)14.3@96
member www.transamgta.com
Previous Thirdgen
1986 Camaro IROC-Z

 

1/4 mile the TPI no problem

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1991 banditt2 #130 of 600
Project 350 TPI Banditt II
http://www.street-dawg-racing.cityslide.com
http://discussion-board.com/GreaterC...dyAssociation/
http://www.cincyspeed.com/

 

I raced my friends 91 z with my 88 SC, off the line I got destryoed, it wasn't even close. But if we started from like 30 it was about even. He really couldn't pull on me.

 

i would say that tpi would win easy because most of the time the tpi cars has posi and bigger and wider tires and tpi is better and has a lot more stuff that you can upgrade unlike tbi but i have tbi and to get around the BS.... (cam,Heads,etc) i got a crate engine

 

oh yea and tpi cars have more hp and a lot more tq

 

Stock TPI's also have zero top end.

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'89 Firebird Formula 350
L98, WS6, Red/grey, t-tops, and a 3.27:1 rear
K&N, TB bypass, no MAF screens, CAI, full Accel ignition, no cats, Hooker Supercomp shorties, Hooker 3-inch catback
ET? 14.19@98.9mph (G-tech)
(Corrected for G-tech 'extra' 6mph)
Also own '83 Firebird 2.8 2bbl. 155K miles.
ET? Break out the calendar!

 

You mean [bold]TBI[/bold] I hope

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1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft

Soon To Come

AFPR, Underdrive Pulleys, Short Throw Shifter, Intake, Cam

6-0 Against Rustangs = )

RW91B4C is there anyway I can contact you? We have the same cars with almost the same times, it could be good to give some good tips to eachother

 

What are you trying to prove here? You have been doing nothing but trash the TBI cars. I cannot believe you are that ignorant to not know the answer to your own question, just look at the hp/torque/1/4 times and speeds.

You must have been picked on as a kid or something, does reminding yourself that you have more horsepower than base model camaros and firebirds make you feel better?

 

Yeah, I agree. What is your problem with TBIs? Okay, we all know that your car is faster than a stock TBI. You proved it by racing a TBI and then laughing in his face after you won, as if its some huge accomplishment. If you race a Vette or a Viper and win, then you can laugh at the driver all you want. You are one ignorant SOB. I like my car, even though its slow. Its still a CAMARO which is what I've wanted since I was able to identify cars.

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1992 Camaro RS
5.0L- All stock until I save up some money.
My 1992 RS

 

My message was to see what people thought. Anyways Like I said I dont have a TBI or a TPI. And the whole thing about laughing in the guys face was quite needed he was an absolute ***** who deserved it. You dont talk **** unless you can back it up and after what he sad to me and my babe. He had what I gave him coming. Firecrow I just want to let you know if I was bashing on the TBI I would of said something such as why dont you drop that TBI off your user name people might respect you more! So dont act like a dumbsh!t

 

Wow I may be off here but I think the mans origial question was "TBI or Crossfire"

"I do have a crossfire"

if that is the question I've heard that TBI is much beter than crossfire.

I just wanted to add someting in defence of all the TBI guys out there, even though I have TPI. I've heard from many people that TBI flows better at higher RPM becasue of the shorter runners. So if you want to get a bigger cam, who knows TBI might be the better way......?

 

There's nothing you can do to your user name to make me or a lot of other people who saw your "I'm a cannibal" post respect you more.



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1992 Camaro RS
5.0L- All stock until I save up some money.
My 1992 RS

 

From the factory TBI cars are slower. Just think, they put them in the RS (also some Irocs as the base motor). GM killed that motor, it was not ment to be the performance motor. Small cam and restrictive heads are just a couple of the problems. Some people on this board are running 13's and knocking on 12's. For a 305 TBI or TPI thats not a bad time. TBI itself is not the problem, it was the rest of the motor. People really need to give it a little more credit.

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--Spyder--

1992 Camaro RS
LO3, T-56,centerforce clutch, ported and polished 305 TPI heads, Edelbrock Performer Intake, 14X3 Open Element w/ K&N, hiflow cats with two pipes going back, AC delete, SMOG delete, alu drive shaft, 3.73 posi, 160 stat w/ fan switch, Ed Wright Fast Chip, MSD Igniton Coil, STB, Subframe connectors, KYB AGX, Eagle GSC, and poly bushings.

1982 Z-28
This July 350 4 bolt, ZZ4 cam and heads and the rest to still be purchased. If you have anything e-mail me.

 

In your "I'm a cannibal" post, you never mentioned that the guy talked **** to you or anyone else, for that matter. You made it appear that you beat him then, rubbed it in pretty well, instead of encouraging a fellow thirdgen'er. It is pretty hard to reply accurately to your situation if you do not tell it very well, or leave out a lot of facts.
TPI vs TBI - TPI is a lot more precise than TBI in amounts of fuel and air that go to the cylinder. However the setup is designed for low-end power, and it is costly to set it up for real power, but if you can afford it, it is worth it. TBI is a cheaper form of fuel injection, in the same category as carbueration (wet flow). It, like carbs, is pretty cheap to build power, but lacks the preciseness of TPI. All other things being the same on an engine stock (TBI to TPI swaps), I have heard TPI to put out more power than TBI, to answer your question.

 

This guy is such an idiot

 

No that's not what I meant. Stock and even modified long-runner setups have a very hard time making any real power. I'm sure TBI's are difficult as well, but I am not fluent in TBI systems so I'm not sure. What I do know is that the top end range on a TPI is very inadequate. Before I get crucified here, you don't have to tell me about how much low-end torque an L98 has, I've had this rammed into my psyche enough by my **** poor 60ft times and futile wheelspin at the line. Besides, after about 300-400ft, its all about horsepower. The bottom line is, if you want power, get a Mini-Ram, SuperRam, or a 4-barrel.

[This message has been edited by RoadRocket L98 (edited June 25, 2001).]

 

RoadRocket:
Or port the plenum, Fully port SLP Runners, and Port an Accel SuperRam Base and then you can earn the name ROAD ROCKET!

 

Why would I waste that much time and money on a setup that still won't make any real power past 5,000 RPM? Besides, even if the base and runners are fully ported, they're still 17 inches long. For a little over the price of what you suggested, I could get a dual plane, a Holley, and a real cam (as opposed to this peanut) and go out and run some decent times.

By the way, no one has to 'earn' their user names. May I ask what you drive?

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'89 Firebird Formula 350
L98, WS6, Red/grey, t-tops, and a 3.27:1 rear
K&N, TB bypass, no MAF screens, CAI, full Accel ignition, no cats, Hooker Supercomp shorties, Hooker 3-inch catback
ET? 14.19@98.9mph (G-tech)
(Corrected for G-tech 'extra' 6mph)
Also own '83 Firebird 2.8 2bbl. 155K miles.
ET? Break out the calendar!