Okay this was a while back, but I have been meaning to ask. Im going through town, and this brand new silver T/A pulls out, and I see 2 hot girls in it. So im following them (2 lane road) and finally we both turn left onto a 6 lane road. this was a 'base line' T/A, not Ram Air, not WS6, but I could tell it was a standard. Well anyways, I pull beside them going down the road and drop it into drive, tap the gas a couple times, and for the real attention getter I droppped it to 2nd and literally jumped a couple times :P Well we finally hit a red light, and the girl driving rolls here window down and yells "You think you're going to beat this in that 4-cylinder?" At this point i was pissed and i wanted to yell all kind of curse words, but all I said was "Six point six baby". So I start thinking 'I have to beat this dumb b*tch, then maybe here daddy will buy here a faster car'. So I sit there and powerbrake at abotu 1300 RPM, just to hold tension on the suspension a drivetrain. The light turns green and I do a picture perfect launch, not a sound from the tires. I must have pulled them by 2 or 3 car lengths and soo i was doing 90MPh in a 40. I slow way down and let them catch up, and start gloating hard. I was laughing at them for one thing, but I was in second gear just stomping the gas. They tried to go for a 40mph punch but I got them there too. Anyways, are new T/As realy that slow or could this b*tch just not drive a standard for crap or what?

------------------
1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

First of all, it was a girl driving.

------------------
1992 Pontiac Firebird
- 305ci V8 TBI / Automatic Trans / Loaded
- MODS: Edelbrock 14x3 Open Element Air Cleaner, Dual outlet exhaust
1985 Chevy Z28
- 350ci V8 TPI / Automatic Trans / Paid $200 for it
- In the process of restoration!

HEY OEJ, is the spoiler on the trans am rice, or are the wheels.

point 1

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">this was a 'base line' T/A, not Ram Air, not WS6, but I could tell it was a standard.</font>

point 2

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">:P Well we finally hit a red light, and the girl driving rolls here window down and yells "You think you're going to beat this in that 4-cylinder?" </font>

point 3
proves she's a dumba$$,knows nothing about cars

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Anyways, are new T/As realy that slow or could this b*tch just not drive a standard for crap or what?</font>

point 4

exactly

[/QUOTE]



------------------
350 4 bolt main, Speed-O-Motive 383 stroker kit, re-sized rods ground for clearance,TRW Forged pistons,10.7:1 compression,HPC Coated RPM intake, Holley 750 cfm carb,World Products Sportsman II heads,2.02/1.60 valves, Comp Cam 1.6 roller rockers, Comp Xtreme 284 cam,240/246@.050 with .540 lift,Crane pushrods,ATI damper,Proform HEI and MSD6A box,HPC coated 1 5/8 headers, 2.5" exhaust with 40 series mufflers,TH350 with Hughes 3000 stall, Powertrax NoSlip Locker, 4.11 gears.

i see several things wrong here. first off, if there are two hot girls in a t/a, why would you be thinkin "bitch", when you could be thinkin "ohh, sex". and why in the hell would a good 400 small block get beat by an LS1? youve already got 53 cubic inches on them (anyone fixing to make a comment like "the LS1 is a 350 ", do some reading yourself, its 347ci)

[This message has been edited by idrag2 (edited July 29, 2001).]

346 to be exact

------------------
1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass
Lubricated by Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic

you've got a 400 SBC with stock intake? not understanding your sig..

ppl get confused about my engine. The easiest way to explain my current engine setup (which was not my choice BTW) is this. Imagine a stock, run of the mill LG4. Now remove the short block assembly from it and replace it with a 400 short block assembly. So I still have the LG4 carb, intake, computer,smog junk, etc. Sooner or later i will ditch the computer and smog sh*t, but I am strapped for cash right now. I really need to stop goin to strip clubs so much... lol
P.S. : white, I was thinking exactly that until the prude a$$ ***** ragged on my car. I 'm tired of stupid hoes whose parents buy them everything

------------------
1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

[This message has been edited by Ward (edited July 22, 2001).]

Dood, you would beat her, whether its not a big block or what not your torque should really help you out. She had one extra person and she was a chick in auto, it doesn't matter if its a chick, how the hell hard is it to press the peddle? And don't talk **** about girls shifting because I learned how to shift from a girl, she had a Honda Prelude 5spd and could just roll through the gears. Those run around I think 14.1 or 14.2 in the 1/4, it shoulda been close with your gay intake. Get some more air in that **** and uh thank you 13's.

------------------
1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42 80,000 miles

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback, Homemade Ram Air, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft (w/o headers and catback)

14.426 @ 96.19mph w/2.167 60ft(w/headers and catback)

She probably never even floored it, she just wanted to see if you would blow your car up. Her and her friend probably got a good laugh watching you waste gas. I'm sure she thinks she could beat you, but her dad told her not to race.

I'm not dissing your car but I seriously doubt that she tried very hard to beat you. If your 400 is built I can see it happening but if it's stock...No Way....

------------------
2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Best 60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7
Auto w/3.24 gears

LOL,oh...LOL!!! she probably was playing with you! I do that all the time with people. I'll be driving along,minding my own buiseness,when some punk in a pitiful V6 stang or ***** pulls up,revving,trying to get all up in my grill,so we can throw down like true thugs...just kidding,so I start to "trail" them to make them think that I'm racing. I do this just to see what they got,they could be playing too. I love to see the car pop-ing gears,smell the clutch as they struggle to gain lead on me ,as I effortlessly accelerate,never seeing my car go too far above 3000rpms,I doubt the LS1 went far over 1500rpms the whole time!

when you swapped to a sb400 did you change anything else besides the short block? cuz i think a beefier carb could help a hell of a lot for starters.

I know a handful of LT1's and Ls1's that run low 14's stock. I know of 2 LS1's in my car club that run low 14's.

Not all LS1 cars run 12's from the showroom floor. That is a rare occurance, though I know somebody with a SS car that ran 12.90 but that was a 6-speed car. There are even 2 LS1 vette's that run at the local track here that run 9.0's in the 1/8 mile.

All LS1's ain't 'fast'.

Okay dood, I wanna see an LS-1 SS 6 speed run 12.9. They run mid 13's. Not 12's. Im pretty close to altitude and ive seen them at the track. And how come LS-1's and LT-1's run low 14's stock. I just beat a LT-1 a few days ago, he got me in first because my tires are **** but I hit third and just started to creep. I raced him in 2nd and I just pulled (not to hard tho). LT-1's run 14.2-14.6. By the way, the one I raced had a catback. I figure he had a mid 14 LT-1. And I know PLENTY people that have 4th Gens with LS-1s. The ram air t/a can make a nice 13.7 @ 101mph as the converitble (was there) ran a 14.0 @ 100mph. The 6spd Z's run around 13.9 or 13.8. The vettes run a modest low 13's with a few mods high 12's. Where the **** do you get these times from? Were not in never never land, reality...difference.

------------------
1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42 80,000 miles

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback, Homemade Ram Air, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft (w/o headers and catback)

14.426 @ 96.19mph w/2.167 60ft(w/headers and catback)

I will admit I haven't seen any showroom stock LS1's run 12's but I also haven't seen any run 14's either. They are mid 13 second cars anywhere but at very high altitudes. Bone stock with 480 miles on it my car ran 13.67@101.29 on a hot august day. With only a whisper air lid, ram air kit, ported maf ends, and a cutout I can on a decent day run 12.90's-13.0's@107-108+ all day long. LT1's usually run low 14's stock. I had a 96 TA bone stock and it ran a best of 14.27@99mph on a hot july day.

------------------
2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Best 60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7
Auto w/3.24 gears

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ward:
I said was "Six point six baby".
What the hell do you with that? Do you have a six point cage in the car? It is not in your sig and why would you spend the money for a cage in such a low hp car?

------------------
84 Z28 383
Stripped w/Cage back halved w/ladder bars and coil overs and 9 inch
700R-4 3.73

Oh dear, you must be joking right....

Please tell me you know that a "six point six" is in fact a 400...

Don't make me do a tech article on displacement....

-ws6formula-

Dude..I know a guy with a '00 TA who runs 13.0 at 108.5 all day long. BONE STOCK. It's in MD..he ran in it November when it's like 40 outside with 40 percent humidity. That's not rare at all man..C-5's run slow because they are bought by rich old men who don't know how to drive and would never powershift.

------------------

• Red '88 IROC 305 TPI T-5 w/3.08
• Accel 300+ Ignition
• Accel 300+ Pro Sleeve Plug Wires
• AC Delco Rapid Fire Plugs
• Dual Friction Stage III Centerforce Clutch
• Energy Suspension Transmission Mount
• Flowmaster Force II 3 Chamber Cat Back Exhaust
• Gutted Airboxes
• Hypertech Stage II PROM
• Hypertech Airfoil
• Throttle Body Coolant Bypass
• Best Maryland (40 degrees) E/T 14.686, 60' 2.205, 1/8th mile 9.461, 1/4 mile MPH 93.91
• Best Florida (80 degrees) E/T 14.88, 60' 2.163, 1/8th mile 9.540, 1/4 mile MPH 92.74
• Best 60' 2.163(Florida)
• TPiS AFPR set to 42psi using Accel Fuel Pressure Gauge (Installed after Maryland run)
• Aluminum Driveshaft (Installed after Maryland run)

I am looking to buy Edelbrock T.E.S. headers with the y-pipe. I am also looking for a 3.42 - 3.55 posi disc rear. cheesy@fred.net is my e-mail, send a letter if you can help!

AMEN TO THAT!!!

I go to Atco Raceway in nj its at sea level...i've YET to see a LS1 fbody run slower than a 13.8. I know someone with a firehawk and with slicks broke into the 12's. The are low-mid 13 second cars from the factory...MAYBE 14's in high altitude...i guess...but yeah like stated above C5 vettes don't turn good times cause old rich guys buy them...they think they are cool driving a nice car

------------------
Check out MyGTA Nicknamed:The Big Red Machine
***AOL IM RiceEatinGTA***
Moderator at www.transamgta.com
"What does not kill us only makes us stronger"

Tony

Yeah, no kidding....why don't they drive it like they stole it? I asked some dude to light em up at a light, and he gave me a frown and said f-you and was on his way. Why didn't he dump the clutch at 2 or something, it's not like he would have wrecked or anything.... . I mean, these cars were made to do that stuff! Gosh, gotta love old dudes. He's probably that same fool that winked at me in the mall, when I was 6...

-ws6formula-

I ran 13.5 @ 104 in my SS when it had 700 miles on it. At 800 miles, the car dynoed at 311 rwhp SAE corrected (315 rwhp uncorrected) I installed an LS1 motorsports lid and put 5500 total miles on the engine. I dynoed a few weeks ago at 333 rwhp 342 ft lb rwtq uncorrected (the dyno operator neglected to give me an SAE corrected print out this time) The extra HP should knock a 10th or two off the time. More practice to get a better 60' time (I had a 2.12) and I can see the car at 13.2. Put a set of Nittos and run in winter (temp was mid 80s in Florida) and high 12's are definitely possible.

You would need a real strong running 400 to keep up with that LS1. The LG4 intake system definitely isnt going to cut it.

BTW the only difference between a TA and a WS6 TA is the Ram Air intake (its not a true Ram Air System). Production line differences will determine the faster car more so than the Ram Air would.

The LS1 Auto should still run 13.5 at about 101 - 102 mph so it's still pretty fast.

------------------
Edwin
1986 IROC, 1992 Body Kit, 1989 5.7 IROC Engine, Crane Cam, 3" CVX Exhaust, ADS Superchip, 24# FoMoCo Injectors, Gutted Cat, AFPR (45 psi), Airfoil, 3.42 Gears, MAF Screens removed, Gutted Airbox, K&N Filters

2001 Camaro SS
2000 ZX-12R

[This message has been edited by Ed Z28 350 (edited August 01, 2001).]

no cursing