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Old 03-19-2017, 07:07 PM   #1
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91 t5 305 firebird VS Fiesta ST

Not really sure why I'm posting this but for what its worth, a friend of mine has a Fiesta ST (euro 3 door but I believe for performance intents and purposes identical to the NA car)

Had a race from a roll. 40mph to about a 100. Done 3 runs

I ran from third and changed up around 4.5k rpm, finishing in 4th. I ended up being slightly ahead, maybe a car and a half. Very close.

On one run I kept it in forth and the ST pulled away.

My car is a stock R6P (G92 equiv for firebird) car but for headers and an exhaust, about 115k miles on the clock.

Given the Fiesta ST's stats that's probably about right. And factoring the TPI's are stronger off the line than from a roll, I suspect a quarter mile thrash would have the firebird more ahead?

Still, can't believe we're about level with a hot-hatch. The shame!

Any similar experiences, would love to hear
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Cars have come a long way in the last 10 years. We are living in the greatest golden age of power and speed.
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Its scary to think a kid in a fiesta st would pull up to a pony car and legit have a chance at beating you in stock form.But thats where we are at this day and age.And i saldy dont want to admit this..but since i do work at a ford dealer and have driven plenty of fiesta st..focus st/rs etc..the fiesta st probably would beat the firebird from a dig with the right driver.They are crazy light hatchback cars. But if it was a roadcourse..that fiesta st would eat the bird lap after lap

Time to ad some grunt to the bird to scare those pesky hot hatches away.
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Yea, I have a stock Fiesta ST as my daily commuter. It'll beat pretty much any stock thirdgen from stop to top in straight line, and no thirdgen will touch it in the esses, especially with the Michelin PSS on it. Driving it really is a true pleasure.

Of course, if you take into consideration "cool-factor"... well it lacks that entirely.
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Here she is with her friends at Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch:

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Still, can't believe we're about level with a hot-hatch. The shame!
What's not to believe? The Fiesta ST makes roughly the same power as your stock LB9, and the car itself weighs almost one thousand pounds less than your Firebird. The Fiesta ST engine also redlines 1500 to 2000-RPM higher than your engine. In my opinion your friend does not know how to drive because he should have beaten you...
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Thanks. I've owned two Fiesta ST's and have been on the track with them; I know what they're capable of in stock form.

This was more a just a sobering 'how the once mighty have fallen' thought.
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What's not to believe?
You miss the point of this thread entirely.
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You miss the point of this thread entirely.
Oh really, how so? Did I miss the point.... or, is it that you, and maybe a few others, can relate to his point? Don't lump everyone together who actually drove these cars along with the bench racers. Not everyone who drove/drives these cars considers a RWD V8 to automatically be on another level to a 2000+ vehicle simply because it is a V8 and because it sounds fast. That is hillbilly thinking. These 3rd gen cars were 14/15 second cars when new, who thought that was fast? I know of a friends essentially stock block '89 TTA that will annihilate a Hellcat, does that still make this thread relevant because it is a 3rd gen? Of course it doesn't. No, I did not miss the point. Drag racing and performance has not changed; power, weight and gearing, even 70's drag racers were scratching their heads when LB9 3rd gens came out because they flowed horribly, and those cars preceded them by a decade. There is a reason why this website is filled with engine swaps, it's nothing new, so only a newbie who bases performance by the sound of a muffler would be surprised of the outcome of a stock LB9 vs a Fiesta ST, and only a newbie who didn't suffer the fate of repeated Fox body beat downs back during the 80's on the street would see the stock LB9 as something that it isn't. The LB9 was never anything, so I don't see how it was ever on another level. Maybe to that of an AMC Gremlin once upon a time it was, but even then my money is on the Gremlin.
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Did I miss the point....
Yes, more than once.
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