just a warning but if it gets out of hand in here i will lock it and could we see some proof timeslips, magazine articles tpivette please post the article that you say you have

 

"Do the math : single turbo V6 vs twin turbo V8."

Dude, u could offer them a race with a 12 cylinder, 12 cylinder with a power adder even, and GN guys would still think they would win LOL. Seriously though, I want to see proof of the CC being faster than the GN too.

GN mentality:
"Yeah, I can beat that 4 sec. top fuel car all stock from the factory, and if I was to put $200 worth of mods in my car, I'd be faster than that top fuel car." LOL

 

I dont know much about putting an article i have in my house on the computer, im fact i dont know anything about it! If someone will tell me how, ill post the article. Just so you know, its not a comparison between the GNX and Callaway, just the Callaway's times and stats. The Vettes in the 12s, i doubt any magazines got a GNX into the 12s bone stock.

 

I think u just have to scan it, then do the same thing as posting a picture.

 

i dont know how to post a picture either! Ive never put anything from my house, pic or article, on the computer. I just type. If someone were to let me know how to do this, id put the article on right away for any who are interested.

 

Some1 tell him so we can see this, and hopefully make the GN dudes stop talking ****.

 

here a link to a good site with magazine clips and even the gnx vs. reg vette video. i've searched and searched but cant find a darned thing bout that calloway...although i never doubted it could run 12's. enjoy the site guys!http://www.geocities.com/rad87gn/index.html

 

OK, impartial party here. On the Calloway the only times I can find are at the following, and only lists it on the '89, can't find perf. figures on the '87-88. From looking at several sites, looks like the first year was '87, not '86.
Info here:

http://www.cobranet.com/roadtest.htm

Shows the '89 Calloway at:
1989 Chevrolet Corvette Callaway TT 350 6 spd 3.54 382@4250 562@2500 4.4(0-60) 12.9@111mph C&D 5/89 (Car & Driver)

To keep to at least the same magazine since the same year models aren't available, Car & Driver reported the GNX (not just GN model) at 4.7 sec 0-60 and 13.5 in the 1/4. Got this from the magazine here, not online. May '87 issue.

547 GNX's built in '87 and 58 Calloways sold that year. Source:
http://users.erols.com/ajattard/rpolate.htm#1986 (info found on a few sites to verify).


"
• The L98 engine for the 1987 model year saw a 5 hp increase from last year's 235 hp aluminum cylinder head equipped engine.

• The Z52 sport handling package appeared which incorporated various parts of the Z51 option with the softer suspension from the base model. The Z52 option included a radiator boost fan and heavy duty radiator, engine oil cooler, Bilstein shock absorbers, 16 x 9.5 in. wheels, larger front stabilizer bars, 13:1 steering ratio and increased structural improvements from the convertible model.

• RPO B2K, known as the Callaway Twin Turbo option was introduced this year and was installed at Callaway's shop in Old Lyme, Connecticut and not at the Corvette factory in Bowling Green, KY. 121 coupes and 63 convertibles were built with this option. The engine was rated at 345 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque and came equipped with 0.60 overdrive gearing. Top speed was reached at 177.9 mph. "

Per: http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/1987.html

Wish I could've found more perf info on the Calloways but it doesn't seem to be easy to find.

Ok, not really impartial, I plan on buying a GN. Really apples and oranges with TA's, Vettes and Mustangs. More along the lines of the Impala SS in functionality and not really a sports car. Just plain muscle car. The Calloway looks like it was faster though, as it should be for that price tag. Also, I'm sure the TTA will take a 2001 GT. Hell, C&D shows that a WRX could take it to 60 and in the 1/4. Not much after that though, I'm sure.

HTH

 

Thats the same article i have. May 1989 Car and Driver. if i can figure out how, ill try to have it up on Wed. Thanks for clearing that up, JAFO.

 

Please refrain from making negative comments about tpivette89..@..convert...I have this feeling that your gn pride has fallen..and now you realize that the name CHEVORLET.has been and will be the greatest name ever on sports car..Perhaps the gn guys should go to a hyundai site to compare time slips


LincolnHawk :lala:

 

LOL... The Truth

 

First of all my aeordynamically challenged friend, where have i resorted to name calling. You guys called us thirdgraders, and keep on talking smack on OUR board. You guys are the most immature bunch i have ever dealt with. Now, as far as me being faster than a GN, i was faster than the guy i raced! HA! You can't prove i wasn't, but i know i was. And you know what, this all started because someone didn't like what they saw on my kill list. Im sorry friend, are you upset that my ROC has a GN kill under it's belt. Well, sorry, you guys don't always win (i know you would like to think you do). Wow, you guys are really such nanny's. I have never seen any 'car guys' get so upset about a loss. You guys have real ego problems. You want your proof? You guys have to hang around our boards, just to see if any of our Thirdgens will beat your black buckets. Then, as soon as one does, all hell brakes loose. You guys are SOOOOO pathetic, i want to laugh <<<<Me laughing at you. Now, for the next part, you say everyone here thinks i talk trash? Please, whoever thinks i talk trash just say I. You want timeslips? I am planning on heading down to E town this spring, so ill give you your timeslips. Gotta go now though. I am cruisin the streats for some nice grocery getters to WHOOP!!! YEA!!!! THIRDGEN's RULE!!!!

GN Guys=BITCHES (there is my name calling, you losers. Get the hell off this board if you can't contribute something to thirdgen performance.

 

yeah ok sure if you say so

so what? guys have proof that a car that most ppl do not even know about b/c so few were made was a faster car. yeah I grant you it was faster. but so what there was not r eally enough of them to talk about.

and also how does a 1/4 mile time make it the best sports car?

still even though the vette can make the turns I would not go any near saying it is the greatest car ever for a sports car

 

thats the most idiotic thing i've read in awhile

may *** have mercy on your soul

 

Link to article on GNX/ Callaway Vette from Pop. Mech. Mag

http://www.buickgnx.com/

Scroll down to magazine articles, then click on article titled "Speed Thrills"

Enjoy

I'm sure the vette could have done better but

465 ft/lbs on goodyears = no traction

The 91 Callaway had 403 bhp and 575 ft/lbs and ran 12.7 @ 113
about the same as the ZR-1

 

Its the Greatest name on American Musclecars/Sportscars anyway. Pontiac is up there too.

 

So, let me get this straight. I am not doubting you beat the GN Convert. never did doubt it. I doubt whether he was trying or not. Just because you heard the boost means nothing.

I am not saying I could beat a 4 second top fuel dragster, let's be realistic. I am saying I could beat a stock 89 IROC 350. And I really don't care about the GNX and Calloway Vette. Will never own either so I doesn't matter to me.

As far as CHEVY being the best sports car ever made. (see this is the funny part. I never said I could beat a top fuel dragster, one of you put those words in my mouth. One of you actually said that CHEVY was the best sports cars ever made.) Somehow I think Ferarri, Porsche, BMW, Lotus (I am sure I am missing some) would have a problem with that statement. Didn't CHEVY make the CHEVETTE? I amnot picking on Checy here, I have owned one. But, I don't think it could be classified as a the BEST SPORTS CAR EVER! COME ON!

Now, Convert. You have in your sig that you were beaten by a 6 cylinder Honda (no turbo). You are trying to get us GN guys to believe that this Honda beat you but a GN couldn't. First of all it is a statement about your car and your driving. You think my car is BUTT UGLY. You think my GN is a Caddilac look alike. (have yet to figure out which model Caddy you are talking about) You keep referring to your car being so aerodynamically great as if it is a fighter plane or something. Please. See your car for what it is. Is it more aerodynamic than the GN, yes. Is it a Ferrari, no.

I watch a lot of the car shows in Sunday's on TNN. I see "My Classic Car" and shows like that. I have seen shows about the GN on My Classic Car. Can you tell me what episode the IROC was on, I would like to watch it.

I would love to get the opinion of a few guys who one 1st gen f-body's about your statment about the "ROC" being a muscle car. What color is the sun in your world?

 

Convert wrote: GN Guys=BITCHES (there is my name calling, you losers. Get the hell off this board if you can't contribute something to thirdgen performance.

Convert, I have a spare 3.8 turbo motor you could have to make your car quick in reality not just in your dreams. Is this what you were looking for?

 

............
....well Im not the rice lover you 105 llb 16 yr old ***....
rx-7..I use to think you were ok..but you seem to jump from one side to another..this is a thirdgen camaro /firebird site...you dont even own one nor will you ever own one,so take a step back...and head over to the ***** boards..Sick of you ******* on us thirdgen owners...

 

I don't think that any of those companies have a sportscar that has been around since '53

The reason the "ROC" as you call it, is a musclecar is because it's a rear-wheel-drive V8. Simple as that.

 

WOW now i know why they call them thirdgraders! what a bunch os schmucks! why dont you guys go over to TB.com if your so confident? ya i didnt think so. aww they cant handle this and they cant handle that! what a bunch of babies. i also know now why they have Buick vs. Mustange shootouts, cause if we had had to race you guys we'd all have disconnect our wastegates! oh ya lets start with the ls6 chevelle...what BUICK was faster? yuo the mighty GSX! have a nice day power puffs. mighty chevy? isnt that a little pompous?

 

You can't go into saying that there was no Chevy that was faster than the GSX, cause the '69 COPO Camaro was faster!

 

What is going on here?

We got the F-Body guys, Mustang guys, the import guys, the corvette guys, and the people who don't know what they are.

#1- Yes, The GN and GNX were great cars with seat of the pants acceleration, but in the handling department even the GNX with it's larger wheel tire combo and suspension fell short, very short.
With mods these cars are very fast.

#2- The Turbo Trans Am is faster than the GN and GNX and due to the WS6 suspension it handles excellent too. With the same mods this car will be very fast also.

#3- The Corvette, Hmm where to start. They are a mix of everything, but instead of forced induction it used cubic inches.
It is a very well balanced car. Handling and strait line performance. From ZR1 to ZO6 they are a force to be reckoned with. The Turbo versions were awesome and with full Callaway conversion they were made even better.
Corvette + twin turbos = Traction whats that?

#4- While on the subject don't forget the awesome Typhoon and Syclone. 4.3 Turbo with AWD traction. With minor mods GN's beware.


All of these cars can be made to beat one of the others it just depends on the amount of $$$$ one is willing to spend.


Everyone here does know that GM makes Chevy, Pontiac, and Buick right?

I may love a good flame but this is rediculious. If fellow GM'ers can't get along maybe the ones bringing the name down should quit posting here. And yes Buick people that means you!!!!

 

#2 is SOO true, 1 of the ULTIMATE cars most of us could afford.

#4 Is wrong, the typhoon and syclone trucks were not very reliable once they reached the 12 sec mark, which was fairly easy but not as easy as the GN, the AWD, while giving EXCELLENT traction was a hinderance above 70MPH. The 4.3 didnt prove to be a reliable as the 3.8.

L8R

 

I know but isn't a truck like that cool,

 

alright now its resorted to name calling and derogatory terms , so this is getting locked . gn guys , dont come here and stir the pot ok . i personally love the grand national and its potential , however , i like my thirdgen better , slower or not . thats why we are here , this isnt a buick board , its a thirdgen f body board .
and if someone prefers and iroc over a gn , so what . that doesnt give you the right to jump in say gns are that much better than any iroc . if you want to post here like the rest of us , please do so . just be courteous and you will be respected , no matter what kind of car you drive but for now , this thread has done its time