There's a guy that just started at my work that has a 2000 Civic and he says he has put 10-12K into modifying the engine. He says he put a type R motor in it with other mods like a header, intake, and exhaust , he claims it made 362 front wheel hp at 7200rpm and just over 300 front wheel tq at 6800prm in naturally aspirated form. He says he just intalled a NOS system with a 100 shot, he also says when he gets some sort of special valves he will be able to spin the engine to 15000rpm(at this point I think he's full of sh*t). After listening to all of this we went outside and he poped the hood of the car, it sounded like all of the other ricers around here, very quiet under the hood with that sh*tty sounding exhaust coming out through a 4" tip. Well I don't know much about ricers so I don't know what a type R motors looks like, I did see that he had a header and intake but I didn't see the NOS lines that he supposidly just installed, I didn't look in the trunk for the bottle. Is it possible to hide a NOS system that well? He said he has raced and beat some GN's, Z28's, and Mustangs. What do you guys think, is it even possible to get that kind of power out of a 4 banger without sounding radical in N/A form? If so, what do you think he'll run on and off the juice. Sorry for the long post but I don't know anything about rice.

 

it sounds to me like the guy is full of i realy highly doubt that a 4 bagger is making those kind of #s. if you want a 100 shot of juice on four cylinders im pretty sure that you have to have a fogger system so the hose would i think be right at the bottom of the intake manifold. i dont have a clue what kind of times he would run but i think one of the main problems would be getting the traction to the ground.

kolby

previoulsly carless_sucks

 

360 FWHP? hmmm... I don't think $12k is gonna do that N/A... maybe with a turbo... I don't think it could be done N/A with any reasonable amount of money (maybe $20k+). I'd bet the type R motor cost him a good $8k and those things come with 200 Hp. With intake headers and exhaust he'd be pushing 215 maybe (consider the type R civic comes with a good flowing exhaust and high volume air filter)... You'll need to find out other work hes done for accuracy, I may be able to believe 260 Hp at the crank with a complete porting and polishing with two spark plugs per cylinder, 20 valves and more agressive cams (DOHC).

So, I'm gonna have to raise the flag

and this will be him: to you:

and me goin': :lala:

:hail: CPC

 

Getting 300ft/lbs out of a 1.8liter engine is like saying "Im getting 1050ft/lbs from a 383in V8,
without using some kind of forced induction its nearly impossible, and if you did get it, it would never be street legal.
As far as a 1.8 engine making 360+hp, you need a turbo or a supercharger, If it was done by keeping it naturally aspirated then you would need much, much, much more than $10,000 - $12,000 dollars,
He's pulling your leg and quoting you something out of a magazine or gran turismo, and besides if he really wanted this setup, he would've bought and imported a civic type R into the country since it would be much cheaper.
Intake, exhaust and nos on an import is not very scary at all, especially if its a 4cylinder......

 

I think the type R motor is 2.2L

 

are you sure? I always thought it was a 1.8L..anywhoo, ive always wanted to do this....

 

He's not gettin that kind of power N/A, its just not possible. Some people just live in denial of the laws of physics man.

 

unless he's got an import drag racing motor which he doesn't cause he doesn't have $40-$50k to start building one he's definitly not putting out those numbers at the wheels. So either he's horribly misinformed or he's BSing you.

 

15,000 rpms too, wow, now that's a redline..
What crap.

If you didn't see NOS lines then I don't see it happening, I'd say check under his passenger seat, see if the cushion lifts up, hey VIN DIESEL did it, so anyone can.

 

well going by hp= (tq x rpm)/5250 then making 300 ft lbs at 6800 rpm then he's making almost 390 hp which is more than he said he was so he's full of if my formula is right.
Andrew

 

If he was just a little bit smarter...he'd be a dumbass. Don't buy any of it, I've encountered plenty of characters like him. His hp and torque is coming from his head and a calculater.
Hey...wait...guys...I have a 4 cylinder. I...I have to get some stickers and a flashing shifter ****..a...and a big *** wing...and a butter churn for exhaust. And white lights...and giant speakers, a cap on sideways and slouch in the seat...Now yet's see that's 499 fwhp...plus I got premium gas...Let's see, that's 50 more.
Get the idea.
Say no to drugs.
Don't eat paint chips or put pennies in light sockets.
Auto Priest, out.
:rockon:
Yea, when I drive a Honda next to an F350, I will rev not my engine, for he could smash me, anon, yea, send my retarded *** to the hospital, amen.

 

Thanks for your input guys. I figured he was full of sh*t the second he said he's making 362 hp at the tires, when I'm not even making that much power with my 383 stroker. By the way he also claims that he launches at 6000rpm on 17" street tires and can beat an AWD turbo Eclipes off the line. I think I'll have to race him and show him what real power is.

 

ok one of the drag motors that is full N/A has only 280hp

this is one of the strongest N/A civic motors out there and the guy runs low 11 high 10's


no way is this guy pushing more then that

 

nah he's full of shiz ... the stock engine in his 2000 civic (if its a si) is the b16a, 1.6ltr 180hp vtec motor ... the type r motor is the b18a, 1.8ltr 195 hp vtec motor. so the only way he's pushing over 300 at the wheels is with forced induction. if he really did swap in a type r motor and basic boltons he has somewhere around 220 - 235 hp at the crank .. then add the 100 shot. also the stock redline on the type r engine is 6800 rpm but if you tune it they can spin up to 7200 rpm ... 15000 rpm is just not possible. but anyway ... don't take the race lightly when it happens .. the guy sounds like a fool and I dont wanna see ya loose to him ... that NOS can do wonders for the sport compacts (also will send his rods thru the hood within 6-8 months). my friend in a 72 el camino with a 350 raced a civic hatchback with a GSR motor (b16a) and a 150 shot of NOS and the civic flew by going near 100 before he even hit 80 .. and this was uphill!!! if the guy ever turbocharged the setup then I would worry ... but for now sounds like hes in the 14's all motor and 13's on the bottle.

 

I would just race him. When you spank him, you can put his ing *** down.

But if, and that's a big if, he does win, well we all know that we have much more class than ricers, then you can commend him on a nicely modded car.

 

talk to ANY *****, and theyll tell you either they have or are going to get a Type R motor. it seems to be the holy grail of honda mods. i think this guy is full of sh*t. smack him for me

 

Just remember when you beat him, you won't actually have "beaten" him...he will have missed the shift or missed the spray, or been too busy trying to pull his head out of his a$$ to get a good launch...ah, stupid, uh I mean "goofy" ricers

 

The guy could have been hiding the nitrous lines. If he is running a dry system, he'll only have one line that'll be installed somewhere in the intake.

Im afraid this guy needs to put his money where his mouth is. Take him to school, and take his money! If hes like most honda drivers he'll back down at the first sign of a real race.

He beats GN's =
He has 362fwhp =
He will race you to prove his cars performance =

-Doug