As I said, sorry. Just joking. It is life, I meant not to poke fun at that, just trying to cheer you up a bit.

 

Why didn't you say this about 4 posts ago??? Oh well!

Thanks for your input I guess. Having 2 duaghters (8 and 10 years old)wondering why Daddy got fired by his freinds father is hard to explain. Letting both your little girls know that Daddy can't buy them Christmas presents this year is even tuffer. See why I'm not in a very good joking mood now?????

Thanks
Keiran

 

I was fired from a job I loved. I only made 8.00 an hour for building computers and helping but together networks (lans, wans) but I enjoyed what I did.

I thought everyone was my friend there. until one day I got laid off due to business being "slow" they did tell me I could come back when business picked up again. but that didn't happen.

I couldn't find a job in guelph so I moved away to Ottawa where I found another job.

again I got laid off due to business being slow. first time in a city on my own and I loose my income. a month later I found another job which I am still with.

both companies where friends of friends etc and where people I could "trust".

what hurt most is that I saw these people as my friends. it doesn't help being given short notices either.

I don't know. it's just something I can't understand. I'm just too nice I guess.

simply put. losing your job sucks and I know what your going through with the whole friend deal and the money probs.

-simon

 

Maybe not the time to bring it up- but Buddy did have a point with his story of the bank teller:

It is totally irrelevant that you and the owner(s) were 'close' and good friends and what-not with a 10+ year history. The minute anyone (especially a government bureaucrat) hears you 'borrowed' something from work without permission you are dead in the water- no matter what your intentions are or were.

The only way around this would be if you had a number of examples of other equipment you had taken home in the past, attempted to repair and then returned- i.e. you and your employer have a 'traditional' de-facto (i.e. not explicitly stated) agreement that you can remove whatever you want without express/direct permission and you will return it someday. If this was the only time you removed something and did not have permission, -from a purely technical viewpoint- you stole it. Unless the boss told you 5 years ago "take whatever you want whenever you want but please bring it back" you don't really seem too have much of a technical leg to stand on. The fact you returned it before it became an issue doesn't mean much- hypothetically, it could be assumed you didn't have the stones to carry the theft all the way through- and returned it out of nervousness before you were 'discovered'.

I'm sure we can all agree that it seems obvious you were not stealing anything, nor had any intent to do so- but unfortunately, if you look at the actions from an outside point of view- the 'soft' elements- i.e. friendship, etc. really have no bearing on someone's decision as to whether you should receive EI or win a lawsuit or whatever. If a third party is doing their job- emotions and sad stories will not sway the basic point that without permission- direct or implied- that you could remove company property- you, in effect 'stole' or misused it- i.e. definitive grounds for dismissal. Mind-you, seeing as how your former employer did not call the police when the equipment was initially missing- he wouldn't be in the strongest position to prove that a 'theft' or 'crime' was committed and therefore any decisions re: collecting EI benefits or such would be made by what statements you and your former employer give EI.

Keep it simple and don't expect anyone in the EI office to give a crap about 'human' problems- they see thousands of out-of-work and fu#ked-over employees every year. Tell 'em you took it with permission and then after the fact were accused of theft for reasons you cannot explain- maybe you looked at the boss wrong one day- maybe his wife didn't like you, whatever. You don't have to explain your former boss's logic- just your own.

 

Good point Eric, I guess. But that's just it Eric. Everyone! at our shop barrows tools and what not. We always did and it never became a problem. If I wanted to take our Snap on scan tool home to check somethings...I did. If another employee wanted to take the buffer home...he did. The rule was as long as you bring it back the next day so it was there if needed. As for this power washer, it hasn't worked in over 3 years. We have 3 other sprayers and only 2 people required one( myself, and the other detailer) My partner Rugged even told the boss prior to him asking where it was, that I took it home to try to fix it in my spare time. As for the close freind issue. I hung around with Jr for more then 10 years, we use to be unsperatable, that is until his wife came along and bitched him down in a little hole. Not like it matters anymore really. Like I said I do see your point but it has no bearing on this situation what so ever. Everyone at our shop took things home to use or to fix, or for what ever reason. I guess I should have mentioned that earlier but....I am a bit ticked so I overlooked telling everyone this part of the story. It's all good "here"

Thanks
Keiran