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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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SLP T-Ram

Well since SLP has recently made 2 new products for thirdgens, granted it was only wheels nothing for performance, I wonder if enough people started bugging them again if they would reproduce the T-Ram. People bugged them enough and they came out with the R15's again, and the new thirdgen zr1 wheel, maybe we could get them thinking about reissuing the T-Ram. Anyone think this could work?
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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This question is asked numerous times and the answer is the same. The tooling was lost in a fire years ago at SLP and the cost to reproduce it will NOT warrant its reintroduction. Reason:
low demand & obsolete 3rd Gen Cars.

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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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I know i emailed them years ago about this and got that reply from them, but since they seem to have an interest in thirdgens again, and if enough people started mass mailing them maybe they would consider it more, just a thought
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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rims are one thing and even that they already discontinued them again. the firehawk rims at least.

u see the runner they make, when some people get them are need work just to get to on / seal right.

i just dont see them doing it, even with the headers and some like me had to dent the one tube on brand new coated headers to clear the steering shaft.

the t-ram looks cool, but there are so many other ones to chose from they wont be the top of the line most likely.

mini / super-ram, lt1 intake, and SR are the front runners now and those choices are hard to chose from.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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I think i've posted this a thousand times, lol...........

If you want a t-ram, call Ryan Falconer Engineering. They designed them and cast them. SLP may have taken over the casting process but I doubt it.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Acceld Z
I think i've posted this a thousand times, lol...........

If you want a t-ram, call Ryan Falconer Engineering. They designed them and cast them. SLP may have taken over the casting process but I doubt it.
Email has been sent, let you guys know about the outcome
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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highly doubt it will ever happen, We'll be looking @ price around the super ram. Not everone will be willing to spend that much.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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If you can actually get somebody to dust off the tooling they are gonna cost a hell of a lot more than a superram. I think they where big bucks back in the day.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Acceld Z
If you can actually get somebody to dust off the tooling they are gonna cost a hell of a lot more than a superram. I think they where big bucks back in the day.
You don't read very well, there is NO TOOLING it was lost in a fire.
You can not dust off something that does NOT EXIST. End of story.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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LOL, yeah, i'm the one with the reading comprehension problem.

SLP did not engineer or cast the T-ram. I don't care what they say at SLP. They marketed and sold them just like Accel sells the SR that LPE did all the leg work on. I'm not gonna argue about this anymore because I know for a fact that i'm right. And you've already thrown up a rolleyes smiley and I just can't compete with that.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Acceld Z
LOL, yeah, i'm the one with the reading comprehension problem.

SLP did not engineer or cast the T-ram. I don't care what they say at SLP. They marketed and sold them just like Accel sells the SR that LPE did all the leg work on. I'm not gonna argue about this anymore because I know for a fact that i'm right. And you've already thrown up a rolleyes smiley and I just can't compete with that.
YEA.YEA. You have the facts and are right and everyone else is wrong.:lala: :lala:
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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gee thats funny cause my freind of 14 years was the one at slp that designed the intake and got the ball running with it his name is carl woodruff and that is a FACT!the fire ruined everything as well as hedders and other misl. parts......jus' the facts man!!!!!!
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Lol, jesus this **** is getting tired. You guys believe what you want and i'll believe what I want

:lala: :lala: :lala:

Now, I feel better.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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gee thats funny cause my freind of 14 years was the one at slp that designed the intake and got the ball running with it his name is carl woodruff and that is a FACT!the fire ruined everything as well as hedders and other misl. parts......jus' the facts man!!!!!!
Next time you see "Carl" run the name Ryan Falconer by him and see what he says.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Acceld Z
I think i've posted this a thousand times, lol...........

If you want a t-ram, call Ryan Falconer Engineering. They designed them and cast them. SLP may have taken over the casting process but I doubt it.
Do you have any proof that the castings still exist?

It would be awesome is there was another intake for the fuel injection guys to choose from. In my option the T-Ram is an awesome intake, good low-end and good high-end. A damn good mid length runner intake.

But as always it’s all about money and thirdgen’s are a small market. If a company comes out with a good enough EFI intake for a SBC it’s going to make money because a lot more people are going to buy it then just people who own thirdgens.
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Yeah....SLP had nothing to do with designing the T-Ram. Ryan Falconer designed it....I thought that was pretty common knowledge.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by 89 Iroc Z
Do you have any proof that the castings still exist?

It would be awesome is there was another intake for the fuel injection guys to choose from. In my option the T-Ram is an awesome intake, good low-end and good high-end. A damn good mid length runner intake.

But as always it’s all about money and thirdgen’s are a small market. If a company comes out with a good enough EFI intake for a SBC it’s going to make money because a lot more people are going to buy it then just people who own thirdgens.
Truthfully, I have no idea if the tooling still exists. SLP may have wound up with the tooling once T-ram production ceased but i'd be willing to bet that they didn't do the casting themselves.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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Truthfully, I have no idea if the tooling still exists. SLP may have wound up with the tooling once T-ram production ceased but i'd be willing to bet that they didn't do the casting themselves.
Gee... The only fact that you have that is correct. SLP DID NOT cast the T-Ram in house. "I have no idea if the tooling still exist" ,did someone not have his Facts straight???
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Dude, you're incoherant. Calm down, pull your head out of your *** and re-read what I have posted. Then you can try again. I never said that the tooling did still exist. Here's what I have stated thus far....

1. Ryan Falconer designed the T-Ram
2. SLP probably didn't cast the T-Ram
3. If you want a T-Ram, call RFE. They would be the ones with the drawings

I don't know about you guys but the phone help at SLP has never been much help to me. And i've owned alot of SLP ****.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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I am not a dude and your the one with his head up the hole with I got the "FACTS" BS.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Guys relax I don't want this to be locked I am getting very interested.

Does anyone know if SLP holds the rights on the T-Ram or if any company can make a copy it and reproduce it? Also does anyone really know what happened to the castings I know that everyone says they burned down in a factory fire but do they have any of the designs left?


Side note: I wonder how the T-Ram would do in a side by side dyno with the Stealth ram, I bet the T-Ram would be a flater power curve, but no way to know without it.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Gee... The only fact that you have that is correct. SLP DID NOT cast the T-Ram in house. "I have no idea if the tooling still exist" ,did someone not have his Facts straight???
Just a question... if they didnt cast it in house, why would the tooling get ruined by the in house fire?

And now... back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Tooling is always returned the customer (SLP) from the foundry after production orders cease. Tooling is owned by SLP and not by the casting source. The foundry does not hold back castings from the customer, if there are overruns the castings are scrapped after the orders are complete.
End of story.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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So now youre also saying they werent making any at the time the fire happened.

Did you work for SLP?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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What if there was a fire, and SLP had the tooling, but someone took the tooling home for the evening? ....But they crashed on the way home, and there CAR had a fire?

What then?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Abubaca
What if there was a fire, and SLP had the tooling, but someone took the tooling home for the evening? ....But they crashed on the way home, and there CAR had a fire?

What then?
What if DURING this so-called crash some aluminum in the car was heated hot enough to flow into the casting? What if during this car meltdown there was another T-Ram formed ... a SPECIAL T-Ram with the strength and flow of 5 MiniRams? What if this intake was then hidden away for years in the hopes of later using it to defeat godzilla?

Tim
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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This tread is just too funny.

1st, I know Kevin Woodruff.

2nd, Ryan Falconer designed the T-Ram, they did not make the mold and produce them for SLP. SLP had possesion of the molds as they do now for the TPI runners they sell.

3rd, SLP actually has a nearly complete T-Ram left, the one from #026 although it's missing one of the plenum side tanks. This is straight from Kevin who runs SLP parts. I also know who got the last set of new Tri-Y's from SLP, hell I could have but it was for the dual cat setup, anyway...

Lastly, SLP does not have what it takes to produce the T-Ram again, THIS IS FACT, end of story. Niether does RFE.

Move on...

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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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I am not a dude and your the one with his head up the hole with I got the "FACTS" BS.
I'm sorry for labelling you. I never stated I had the facts
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by 92GTA
This tread is just too funny.

1st, I know Kevin Woodruff.

2nd, Ryan Falconer designed the T-Ram, they did not make the mold and produce them for SLP. SLP had possesion of the molds as they do now for the TPI runners they sell.

3rd, SLP actually has a nearly complete T-Ram left, the one from #026 although it's missing one of the plenum side tanks. This is straight from Kevin who runs SLP parts. I also know who got the last set of new Tri-Y's from SLP, hell I could have but it was for the dual cat setup, anyway...

Lastly, SLP does not have what it takes to produce the T-Ram again, THIS IS FACT, end of story. Niether does RFE.

Move on...
Amen, end of story. But i'd be willing to bet that RFE has the drawings for the molds. That is what I was getting at. Even if the molds where destroyed i'm sure a new set could be built given the proper infusion of $. But I expect that would be alot of $ and SLP probably holds the papers. But honestly, other than nostalgia, I can't come up with a reason to want a T-ram.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Acceld Z
Amen, end of story. But i'd be willing to bet that RFE has the drawings for the molds. That is what I was getting at. Even if the molds where destroyed i'm sure a new set could be built given the proper infusion of $. But I expect that would be alot of $ and SLP probably holds the papers. But honestly, other than nostalgia, I can't come up with a reason to want a T-ram.
yes, but in that aspect anyone that wanted the measurments of the tram would only have to coax some TRam owner for it for a bit to take downt he info and make his own molds. But like said before, it would be too much money to get the tooling and the demand is low for a near obsolete intake set up.
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