wow 100 now i feel lucky

 

Well,, now,, even the blindest have seen the light – not that The ODB kept anybody in the dark,,, he’s answered everybody’s direct question,, just didn’t volunteer all the info. I think it’s funny. I just can’t figure out why he was willing to give so much info especially after that viscous feeding frenzy. He’s a better man than most under the circumstances. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s done a lot of street racing and Internet surfing. I bet he’s giving the info cause he knows if he showed up with a lot of visible weight removed from the car,, everybody with a lick of since would start rope-a-doping. 2950 lbs,, 439 rear wheel (don’t even need “serious” head work),,, the IROC I finished up for the wife is calculating 388 rear wheel,, same heads,, just very minor work with a UPI (that’s untuned port injection), through full exhaust. I’d bet The OBD has a dump tube,, uncapping,,, you all better hope he’s a forgiving man and lets you off the hook..

Well,, ODB accept my apology,, for being skeptical. I got a little torqued about the rods out of the block thing,, and not being able to tune,, and it’s easy to get rapped up in the mob mentality on this fricken Internet,, it’s hard to tell the Knows from the Don’ts sometimes. Anyway I’d like to e-mail you and BS about the 9.999 N/A deal off the boards. I’ve done a lot of engine R&D,, mainly in heavy a$$ed 3500 – 3700 pounders at the track,, some cell time, but it’s possible we could benefit a little from each others knowledge base. I refrained from posting a lot on the boards to avoid just the thing you went through.

 

I actually agree with this. He has answered all of the questions I had, and doesnt seem like a troll from them. I made sure to ask all the questions I need to know, since I live half the country away. The weight thing has a big part of making me more of a believer in his claims.

I think he could come close enough to 10s with that weight, if he really knows his stuff. The mph thing is still off to me, but not by a big enough margin to drive 17 hours to find out.
I will get a local to check his car out, and if it looks like he described it, I have no reason to totally disbelieve him further.


[This message has been edited by Kevin G (edited February 09, 2001).]

 

Thank you BadSS,
are you close enough to meet in person to save us carpul tunnel? I'm very near St Louis.

Yes you all see how the incredible tech advice giving Mike kept saying no such thing as a ford factory gear over and over, so I kept quoting him in my replies so he can't go back and erase the evidence of brainless drivel.
I swear some people refuse to believe anything even when they see it themselves. If I had that attitude and jumped/flamed everyone that was faster than me, then I'd never get anywhere and still be running 14's or 13's or whatever.
Most of these people have never done any kind of valid testing themselves, so they have only printed information and word of mouth to put their faith in.

I urge everyone to collect as much info and opinions as possible and put them to the test yourself. That way you know for sure what the deal is.
And anyone requiring visual proof of whatever I've claimed is more than welcome to come up to me personally for a look. I will not go tearing down engines for free though. I would say $500 is a good wager for me to pull the intake, cam, and a head. I have no problem with that.
When and if I get my future busines going making & testing my own performance parts, they will be based on the equipment that I run now. Obviously there will be many nonbelievers that just didn't have the skill or 'luck' with these parts in the past. I fully expect to have the burden of proof on many occasions, and that's why I am handling all the flaming the best way I know how.

 

Well, it only took 103 posts to sort through all the bull****. If the times are in fact real, OBD I commend you. Now, what i am going to do is leave this topic up for a few more hours or so and then get rid of it. If anyone objects, let me know, or if G-Berg wants to ditch it now, go ahead, I don't care. Otherwise, if there are any questions please post new topics. This thing just takes up too much space.

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-Bill

-=ICON Motorsports=-

Modertor TPI board

Looking for 86/87 Turbo regal
1991 Z28 SOLD

 

There is one question that wasnt answered,. How were you planning on running at a sanctioned track and was running no cage? Like I mentioned in previous post, you mentioned only subframes. That and the fact you mentioned in a different thread that is wasnt all gutted out( which means a 2950 car to me),Without a cage here in Md., you wouldnt get 2 runs in here if you ran anywhere close to 10s. I was ready to make that bet in a second. Anybody would have. It was too easy. .

And as for Mike92 LX, and the 3.25 thing...well he is deep in the 10s with his daily driven ride, and streetraces almost every weekend, doing it for the last 10 years or more.. Mike is far from lacking as far as knowledge is concerned. Ragging on Mike for missing that is as bad as you not knowing the real specs of your cam.. On the net, if you hide things, or things dont add up, you will be called out. It is much different than a local street race where you have the opportunity to physicaly see the car. If you dont mind getting razzed for keeping some things under wraps, you wont care about dealing with the flameing over the net.
You have done a good job describing your mods enough after some prying to the point where it is enough for me to agree with you , and take you for being legit and not being a troll. Good luck with your future goals.

Cheers
Kevin G








[This message has been edited by Kevin G (edited February 09, 2001).]

 

Hey Bill , keep it up till later tonight.

several people who e-mailed me complaining about this thread,which I can understand taking up soo much dead space, but keep it up till later tonight, so everyone interested can see how it all turned out, and just lock it, not deleteing it.



[This message has been edited by Kevin G (edited February 09, 2001).]

 

Yes, it was an interesting read.

Sad as it is, ODB seems to be making an untrue claim, but the amount of people that jumped on him was disapointing. I mean, its turned into this "I know more about cars then you" BS.

What kind of attitude is that? I don't get it. ODB's car might not run thoes times, but do people have to bleed out of their eye sockets because they don't believe him?

 

You actually got complaints? too funny. Anyway Kev, I'll leave it all up to you because I won't be around tonight
Do what you want, it's all good with me.
Later Freak, catch ya on the other side

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-Bill

-=ICON Motorsports=-

Modertor TPI board

Looking for 86/87 Turbo regal
1991 Z28 SOLD

 

If the ODB can run 10.9 NA with "minor" mods listed in his sig, then should I expect similar times with my new setup listed below? I'd flip my lid if I could run 12's with what I've got, and it's not that different than what he has!

P.S. I will be in St. Louis next week on business....I'd sure like to see this car while I'm there!

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'92 RS, ZZ4 10:1 350, Edelbrock 6085 heads, Crane 208/214 467/482 cam, GM/LT4 1.6 roller rockers, Edelbrock Hi-Flow base, runners & 52mm TB, SLP/Jet-Hot 1-5/8" headers, Catco 3" cat, Flowmaster 3" catback, Hughes 2500 stall converter, stock 700R4, Auburn Pro posi w/3.42, 17x9" SS rims w/BFG tires, Medium Quasar Blue w/white SS stripes, 48,000 miles....

 

Scott,
I would not call my mods anywhere near 'minor'. Your combo is a 350TPI correct? it is not even close to the same combination that I run.
Yes you may come see the car, no problem. Directions to my house are in this thread.
my email
daodb2001@yahoo.com

 

This is ****-ING prophetic. Everybody jumps on OBD and now everyone kisses his *** .
DAMN YOU ALL MOTHER****ERS.
ODB, I told you man, YOU AINT MY BOY NO MORE!!! You really disappointed me.
I'll be at Moe's.

Da Rick

 

LOL!! Do you think everyone is REALLY kissing his A$$??? I think they're doing it mainly to shut him up and laughing about it later! ) That's all I'm sayin'...I'll keep it short!




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1986 Trans AM
305 TPI
4 Wheel Discs
9 bolt Borg Warner Rear
Completely Stock
Soon to upgrade to a 383 stroker w/TPI, Headman Shorty Headers, AFR 190cc Heads, ported intake, comp cam, TPIS air foil, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator (probably Holley), 24 lb/hr SVO injectors, and some sort of aftermarket ignition (undecided)!
Current project: Keeping my car running until I get the money for the above mentioned project! :-)